What should the NBA do with Draymond Green?

[dhsilv2]

If a dude throws a punch and misses, do we need to judge the full extent because he missed?

You stomped the guy, you pay the consequences. No need to "judge the full extent".

You don't think there's a difference in the punch Gobert threw at his teammate and the one Dray did at his? Both are equal?

This is way worse than what Gobert did. This bozo stomped on a man, and then went and screamed at the crowd for a minute after it.

I asked about when Dray punched Poole, not this stomp.

[Nate505]

You don't think there's a difference in the punch Gobert threw at his teammate and the one Dray did at his? Both are equal?

This is way worse than what Gobert did. This bozo stomped on a man, and then went and screamed at the crowd for a minute after it.

I asked about when Dray punched Poole, not this stomp.

Oh, uh...

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[Cavsfansince84]

He couldn't respond during the interview

"I didn't see what happened in real time, and then I started a huddle with the guys during the review."

If he saw the hip check and challenged the offensive foul from Draymond to Sabonis, he definitely saw the stomp.

One week later: "I didn't see what happened in real time, and then I started a huddle with the guys during the review. At this point we've moved on as a team and are focused on the offseason."

[Cavsfansince84]

The league can give Dray a 1 game suspension but we are all kidding ourselves if we think that will change in the least how Dray conducts himself on the court and in general. He's 33 now and basically been doing whatever he wants on the court and in practices for the last 8-9 years with minimal repercussions from the league or his team. So I don't even care if he gets a 1 game suspension. Warriors are probably losing this series either way and it won't affect Draymond's behavior at all. He's been coddled for way too long. He is what the league and team created with lack of discipline.

[NyKnicks1714]

He should get 2-4 games, but he'll get one. There's a small chance he doesn't get suspended.

[celtxman]

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This is simply a bad-faith argument. You can't be serious.



Another bad-faith argument. Sabonis grabs and holds onto Green's foot, yet it's Green's obligation to de-escalate?! This abdicates Sabonis's responsibility for creating the situation by grabbing Green's foot.

How do you know Green chose violence while he was physically being tripped up? He's already falling in the image, and remember, this is the second time Sabonis pulled Green down to the ground and held him.

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Giving so much deference to Sabonis while granting Green absolutely none is rather striking. Why do you believe Sabonis could not make the same spur-of-the-moment split decisions you expect Green to make?

Talk about arguing in bad faith...
In the clip you share from game 1 it's pretty obvious Draymond grabs Sabonis by the hamstring on the box out and then bowls him over.
How did you conclude that Sabonis "pulled Green down to the ground and held him"?

Good catch. I didn't notice Green's hand wrap around Sabonis' leg. I stand corrected. But Sabonis definitely grabbed Green's ankle in Game 2.

Yes he did, but look closer as to how he was on the floor in the first place

[Bodiroga13]

He is a walking defamation for the NBA. Vicious and violent behavior should not be tolerated in a basketball court, basically everywhere. If it happens once or twice, it's ok, we all lose our temper sometimes. But if it happens multiple times, then you shouldn't get away with it.
Green is a tremendous basketball player. But also a dangerous person.

[ken6199]

2-3 game suspension for the stomping itself, multiple game suspension for the unsportsmanlike behavior towards the fans.

I am always confused at what dirt Green has on the NBA. Portis got 8 games for punching Mirotic, just because Green didn't leave a pair of panda eyes on Poole so he got nothing? Doesn't make any sense.

[EArl]

1 game at most.

[Billl]

No suspension. Deserved the ejection though. Sabonis initiated all the contact by pulling green by wrapping up green by ankle. That's not a basketball play. The step onto him looks mostly the result of that. And of course, green being green, takes a cheap shot by shifting his weight onto that foot and pushing off. That's not a basketball play either. Refs seem to have sorted that out just fine. Both players seem to be currently faking injuries to make themselves seem like the victim.

[ken6199]

I wonder how Steve Kerr resolves his narrative of being classy and a better person and him looking the other way with Draymond's actions on the court.....

In the postgame he pretended he had no idea what happened.

Screw Kerr and his hypocrisy.

If my kid is watching the interview I have to immediately tell them - hey that's not the right thing to say. If you punch someone in the school the first thing I'd say in front of the teacher is to say sorry for your behavior and apologize to their family. And if you punch someone then go around yelling and clapping hands like a hero, then I will also have a very serious talk with you - there is no need to feel proud of being dumb.

[The High Cyde]

2-3 game suspension for the stomping itself, multiple game suspension for the unsportsmanlike behavior towards the fans.

I am always confused at what dirt Green has on the NBA. Portis got 8 games for punching Mirotic, just because Green didn't leave a pair of panda eyes on Poole so he got nothing? Doesn't make any sense.

I think Kerr gets bullied by Draymond, or he’s scared he’ll get punched just like Poole was if he tries to. That whole franchise is scared of Draymond. They never even tried to discipline him cause he wins them games with physical defense that looks questionable half the time with the refs looking the other way. Rasheed Wallace rolling over in his grave seeing Dray get away with freaking wrestling moves.

[celtxman]

1 game suspension for stomp because of past one game suspension for inciting fans

Whatever the numbers I agree with penalizing both acts. I'd rather see him get 1 game for the stomp, 3 games for the inciting, then to get 5 games total. The explanation and precedent is important. Like I said earlier Green gets hit with a water bottle or a beer and the whole world changes and whose fault would that be?
Just to button up things with Sabonis - no penalty. Why? Because Klay Thompson knocked him to the floor. If he fell on his own I would consider a penalty

[SK21209]

He already missed crunch time of a crucial playoff game. I care more about seeing the best possible series between these two than punishing Green and couldn’t care less about his interaction with the fans. No suspension.

[Joshyjess]

Green basically said "What else could I have done?" It's true that Sabonis had his leg, and it's true that he was off balance - but what he could have done is simply put his foot down to get his balance (and if it was on top of Sabonis it would have made sense) - the problem is that he didn't simply put his foot down to get his balance. If you watch the video you can see that he intentionally puts as much pressure down on Sabonis as he can. There is definitely an effort made by green to try to hurt Sabonis. Like I said, if he had simply put his foot down to get his balance (even if it was on top of Sabonis) that would have been one thing - but he most definitely didn't do that, and therefore deserves at least a couple of game suspension.
Those saying it isn't a big deal are wrong. When a guy that big drives his foot down on your chest bad things can happen.

[Yuri Vaultin]

If this was a one off, no issues. But Green has been dirty with impunity and should be punished. Sabonis is lucky it wasn't a Draymond patented hoof to the nuts.

[YogurtProducer]

You don't think there's a difference in the punch Gobert threw at his teammate and the one Dray did at his? Both are equal?

This is way worse than what Gobert did. This bozo stomped on a man, and then went and screamed at the crowd for a minute after it.

I asked about when Dray punched Poole, not this stomp.

One connected and one did not. Both should face the same consequence regardless of whether one actually hit.

It is dumb as **** to punish people based on result rather than intent.

[dhsilv2]

This is way worse than what Gobert did. This bozo stomped on a man, and then went and screamed at the crowd for a minute after it.

I asked about when Dray punched Poole, not this stomp.

One connected and one did not. Both should face the same consequence regardless of whether one actually hit.

It is dumb as **** to punish people based on result rather than intent.

How do you judge intent, especially when it's hard in real time to see how strong or forceful the action was? I know if you break a bone that you used a heck of a lot of force and I would assume you had more intent to do harm. same with how hard Sabonis pulled on Dray's ankle.

[YogurtProducer]

I asked about when Dray punched Poole, not this stomp.

One connected and one did not. Both should face the same consequence regardless of whether one actually hit.

It is dumb as **** to punish people based on result rather than intent.

How do you judge intent, especially when it's hard in real time to see how strong or forceful the action was? I know if you break a bone that you used a heck of a lot of force and I would assume you had more intent to do harm. same with how hard Sabonis pulled on Dray's ankle.

Pretty simple, did you throw a punch? There is your intent. I assume no one is punching to miss.

Did you stomp on a guys ribs? Well sorry, either you did it on purpose or you are to **** stupid to know there is a guy there and deserve a suspension because of your recklessness.

Done. Easy.


If I accidentally get a heavy foot and get caught doing 70 in a 50, do I get off because it was not my intention to speed?