are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?!

[SFour]

I wouldn't be celebrating until OG was re-signed.....Sixers can easily sweep in with a bag of money and steal him. That would put Sixers right up there for the #2 spot imo.

[Riot Randolph]

Legit? No, they can max out at the ecf with a competitive series, but they need a legit 2nd star

They have option 1, they have even option 3-6, they NEED option 2 to win

I don't think Brunson and OG can stay healthy enough

brunson has played 75 games or more last 2/3 years....what are you talking abuot

[Grahf]

The Celtics had healthy Porzingis in the RS.

No Porzingis in the playoffs (which at this point is probably expected, sadly) and they showed major cracks against Indy.

Very fortunate that every team they played had their best player completely injured or significantly hobbled.


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I dont see the Knicks getting 14 games better.

knicks were 20-3 with OG playing in the regular season....add Mikal on top of that I think they're more than capable of being a 60 win team.

I don't think they should go all out in the regular season though, 60 win shouldn't be the goal....it should be for Thibs not to overplay his players.

“The Knicks were 20-3 with OG” is officially the new “the Mavericks were actually the best team in basketball after the trade deadline”

I don’t get what you’re all losing your minds over, Bridges is 27 and has never even been an all-star or made an all NBA team, and yet some of you genuinely seem to think he’s worth 15 games in the standings.

I will say, I’m happy that Knicks fans will get to watch a very good team next year, I give them credit for being passionate and loyal to a franchise that has tortured them for so long, and they deserve to see a winner, but this thread is a stupid overreaction.

Boston has a small subset of “fans“ who get off on hating their own team. the OP is one of them, hard to take anything he writes seriously

EDIT: My reference to the OP was made before these threads were merged

[aj174]

Legit? No, they can max out at the ecf with a competitive series, but they need a legit 2nd star

They have option 1, they have even option 3-6, they NEED option 2 to win

I don't think Brunson and OG can stay healthy enough

brunson has played 75 games or more last 2/3 years....what are you talking abuot

He broke down in the playoffs having to carry the load in intesne games, they can't rely on running him into the ground come playoff time. Maybe they can. But without OG it's tough, and he's injury prone

[Michael Lucky]

Sure if either Tatum or Brown end up done for a season. There's a big gap right now between Boston and the rest of the eastern conference. Not to mention, the Cavs are going to be naturally better next year.

[KnixtapeH20]

Lots of talent, but not sure they have that ONE guy. Theres only been one 2004 Pistons. I like Brunson but I would still contend hes a 2. Also like Bridges but... I would also contend hes a 2. We will see if they can make it all work without a true super star.

[omerome]

Legit? No, they can max out at the ecf with a competitive series, but they need a legit 2nd star

They have option 1, they have even option 3-6, they NEED option 2 to win

I don't think Brunson and OG can stay healthy enough

brunson has played 75 games or more last 2/3 years....what are you talking abuot

He broke down in the playoffs having to carry the load in intesne games, they can't rely on running him into the ground come playoff time. Maybe they can. But without OG it's tough, and he's injury prone

This is why adding someone who literally doesn't miss games in Bridges will help him not to have to carry the load in intense games.

Am I saying that Bridges will be a legit #2? No. But he will be a part of a committee of players who will know their roles and have familiarity with each other.

And Randle went down with a freak injury last year. When he was healthy with OG and Brunson, they were a very good team. Having him back as well will help take the load off one player.

[R-DAWG]

The Celtics still have 2 top-12 players, the Knicks have one

The Celtics have a complete roster with rim protected, TBD on the Knicks

The Celtics have all but 1 of their future picks, 3 of which are trade eligible, the Knicks only have 2 protected picks to dangle

I'd take the Celtics position over the Knicks position.

[ShootersShoot]

Legit? No, they can max out at the ecf with a competitive series, but they need a legit 2nd star

They have option 1, they have even option 3-6, they NEED option 2 to win

I don't think Brunson and OG can stay healthy enough

brunson has played 75 games or more last 2/3 years....what are you talking abuot

He broke down in the playoffs having to carry the load in intesne games, they can't rely on running him into the ground come playoff time. Maybe they can. But without OG it's tough, and he's injury prone

Thats what happens when randle and og are out for basically the entire second half of the season and playoffs. Perhaps with those two healthy and the addition of mikal there would be less of a load on JB.

[omerome]

Lots of talent, but not sure they have that ONE guy. Theres only been one 2004 Pistons. I like Brunson but I would still contend hes a 2. Also like Bridges but... I would also contend hes a 2. We will see if they can make it all work without a true super star.

I didn't know Becky Hammond had an account here.

[Jcity08]

With my team hopefully tanking next season to load up on much needed talent, I think I might just root for the Knicks to make it out of the East. Hope everyone can get signed and come back healthier than ever.

[aj174]

brunson has played 75 games or more last 2/3 years....what are you talking abuot

He broke down in the playoffs having to carry the load in intesne games, they can't rely on running him into the ground come playoff time. Maybe they can. But without OG it's tough, and he's injury prone

This is why adding someone who literally doesn't miss games in Bridges will help him not to have to carry the load in intense games.

Am I saying that Bridges will be a legit #2? No. But he will be a part of a committee of players who will know their roles and have familiarity with each other.

And Randle went down with a freak injury last year. When he was healthy with OG and Brunson, they were a very good team. Having him back as well will help take the load off one player.

It could work, but Tatum and brown are still a better combo in the Celtics, even Giannis and Dame with a healthy Middleton are more top heavy than the knicks.

I don't agree with the trade, but I'll give it up to the knicks for trying to compete

[reload141]

Celtics won 60 games and the title.

Slow down here

The Celtics had healthy Porzingis in the RS.

No Porzingis in the playoffs (which at this point is probably expected, sadly) and they showed major cracks against Indy.

Very fortunate that every team they played had their best player completely injured or significantly hobbled.


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Far out. You really need a ban from posting.

[SFour]

I dont see the Knicks getting 14 games better.

knicks were 20-3 with OG playing in the regular season....add Mikal on top of that I think they're more than capable of being a 60 win team.

I don't think they should go all out in the regular season though, 60 win shouldn't be the goal....it should be for Thibs not to overplay his players.

“The Knicks were 20-3 with OG” is officially the new “the Mavericks were actually the best team in basketball after the trade deadline”

I don’t get what you’re all losing your minds over, Bridges is 27 and has never even been an all-star or made an all NBA team, and yet some of you genuinely seem to think he’s worth 15 games in the standings.

I will say, I’m happy that Knicks fans will get to watch a very good team next year, I give them credit for being passionate and loyal to a franchise that has tortured them for so long, and they deserve to see a winner, but this thread is a stupid overreaction.

Boston has a small subset of “fans“ who get off on hating their own team. the OP is one of them, hard to take anything he writes seriously

addition of OG and Bridges for an entire season is definitely worth around +10 wins. Nobody is saying that Bridges alone will give +15 wins, that's a strawman argument.

The Mavs were a great team but they didn't have the elite defense that you need to win a championship....the Knicks will have that elite defense assuming they re-sign OG.

[knicksfan974]

I have a feeling NO-ONE wants to play this tough Knicks team come 2025 Playoffs.

[Johnny Bball]

Celtics won 60 games and the title.

Slow down here

The Celtics had healthy Porzingis in the RS.

No Porzingis in the playoffs (which at this point is probably expected, sadly) and they showed major cracks against Indy.

Very fortunate that every team they played had their best player completely injured or significantly hobbled.


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I dont see the Knicks getting 14 games better.

I can see it. OG and changing their lineup was post deadline.

[___Rand___]

IF they stay healthy, and IF they get lucky like THIS year when Embiid, Giannis, and others are injured, they might give Celtics problems. Both are big IFs. This trade brings them to ECF contenders. But Pacers were in ECF.

Huh? The Pacers were literally in the ECF because of the injuries of the aforementioned teams.

Why bring them up in the conversation while downplaying the Knicks based on bad luck of injuries. They were injured themselves.

That's exactly it - Pacers made it to ECF this year so what does being ECF contender say about this trade? Not much.

[___Rand___]

Lots of talent, but not sure they have that ONE guy. Theres only been one 2004 Pistons. I like Brunson but I would still contend hes a 2. Also like Bridges but... I would also contend hes a 2. We will see if they can make it all work without a true super star.

You give Bridges too much credit. He's not a 2. He's a 3.

[PierceFan4ever]

Celtics won 60 games and the title.

Slow down here

The Celtics had healthy Porzingis in the RS.

No Porzingis in the playoffs (which at this point is probably expected, sadly) and they showed major cracks against Indy.

Very fortunate that every team they played had their best player completely injured or significantly hobbled.


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Far out. You really need a ban from posting.

I’ve never seen a Celtics fan so miserable or downplay their success especially after a championship

[___Rand___]

Isn't there already another similar post re"Knicks are contenders"