Luka Doncic is now 270 pounds

[vincecarter4pres]

This. Can you imagine aa legend like Charles Barkley letting himself get so out of shape and self-satisfied that his team wanted to get rid of him?

You’re really eating this BS up, aren’t you?

Huh? I don't care if Luka is ripped or sporting a beer belly, people over react to his body. I just thought the bolded was funny given how many players in the past let themselves go.

It just felt like you were buying this BS excuse Dallas is doing to explain away this atrocity.

[levon]

I honestly don't care if he's a crackhead if he's going to put up 73 points in an NBA game, average 34 and take a team to the Finals before hitting his prime.

[TravisScott55]

If they wanted to trade him fine, but to only shop him to one team is shady.

[Jamaaliver]

Possibly Sacramento involving a trade for Fox.

I can't imagine Sacramento would turn down Luka Doncic in exchange for a dude who doesn't even want to be on their team.

Milwaukee seems more likely.

Opposite Conference.
Defensive minded Future HOF PF in Giannis.

But Bucks would have no chance to keep Luka beyond 2026, so they declined.

[jbsays]

Basically a white version of Zion Williamson. Shows a lot of NBA players don't take the game as seriously compared to the player that came before them.

This. Can you imagine aa legend like Charles Barkley letting himself get so out of shape and self-satisfied that his team wanted to get rid of him?

Yeah... Moses Malone told Barkley he was fat and lazy during his rookie year. So he got in shape for the rest (or atleast most) of his playing days. Can you imagine a vet telling one of these young guys they are fat and lazy? Not sure how it would go over today.

Barkley's 76ers run was before my time, but man what a team with Dr J, Moses Malone, and Barkley. They also had Andrew Toney who was really good before an injury derailed him.

[cgf]

You’re really eating this BS up, aren’t you?

Huh? I don't care if Luka is ripped or sporting a beer belly, people over react to his body. I just thought the bolded was funny given how many players in the past let themselves go.

It just felt like you were buying this BS excuse Dallas is doing to explain away this atrocity.

Nah. I buy that Luka is difficult to deal with and has been throwing fits that the Mavs have been sweeping under the rug the past 7 years...that organization has shown they know how to keep things quiet. And I buy that he may be starting to get complacent, enjoying the lifestyle more than the work.

But trading a guy for no other reason than he put on weight while injured, is idiotic even if we weren't talking about one of the most gifted basketballers on the planet.

[Exp0sed]

Anyone else wondering if we’ve already seen the peak of Luka’s career?

nope, just you

we haven't

Fair enough lol. But I wonder if Luka is dysfunctionally competitive enough to continue getting better or if he will be another Mbappe, who peaked in his early 20s when he reached the top and no longer felt like he had to prove he was a magician. Especially now that he's gunna be living in LA.

Mbappe is about the same age as Luka and is still arguably the a top 3 striker in the world, many would argue he's the best

I mean, if that's him not trying to get better..any team would be happy to have a world class player

Besides, I don't buy into Luka not being competitive or competitive enough. he may not be professional enough but that's different than competitiveness

[holdenwait]

The attempted smear campaign is goddamn hilarious

[leolozon]

McMahon said that Luka in shape is around 250 and he came this season in the high 260s.

So it’s not like he wasn’t pretty much at 270 to start the season.

He should play at 250 like Lebron, but this isn’t some new info. It looks like he played at near 270 a lot in the past few years.

Meh

Body fat and body weight not really the same thing.

Muscular 250 pounds and Doughy 265 pounds are very far apart.

As the father of a two year old, I can attest how easy it is to put on weight after the birth of a little one. I went from a tight 185 pounds to a tubby 200 in the 3 months after my youngest son was born.

It's been hell trying to get back...

I don’t get what you are saying. I said Luka should play at 250. You think Luka is doughy at 250?

His base is bigger than Lebron. I think 250 like him makes sense.

[cgf]

nope, just you

we haven't

Fair enough lol. But I wonder if Luka is dysfunctionally competitive enough to continue getting better or if he will be another Mbappe, who peaked in his early 20s when he reached the top and no longer felt like he had to prove he was a magician. Especially now that he's gunna be living in LA.

Mbappe is about the same age as Luka and is still arguably the a top 3 striker in the world, many would argue he's the best

I mean, if that's him not trying to get better..any team would be happy to have a world class player

Besides, I don't buy into Luka not being competitive or competitive enough. he may not be professional enough but that's different than competitiveness

5 years ago Mbappe looked like the next Ronaldo/Messi tier GOAT contender, who would be in a tier of his own with Haaland for a decade+. Now he's not even Real's key man. He's still an amazing talent, but he's just one of the best right now along with Wirtz / Musiala / Haaland / Bellingham / Vini / etc.; not running out ahead of the pack.

Not saying I think Luka will become Zion, but I do wonder if he'll ever reach an even higher level or if he won't become more mortal.

Luka going to the Lakers just gives me Mbappe finally going to Real vibes.

[durden_tyler]

Not sure how this is the conclusion when he’s injured and probably just haven’t been healthy enough to work out. But if this is true, then you get him help not trade him.

"I need a recovery beer." After recording a triple-double.

Michael Finley having to take a beer out of his hands after winning the West last year.

Dallas having concerns about his "conditioning."

It isn't just a "get him help" issue. It has to be acknowledged from within. If he doesn't feel he has a problem, he won't address it. Unless someone form the Mavs straight-up told him, "we traded you because you have an alcohol abuse issue and you need help and we don't think we could've helped you," it's a bit rough and if* they felt he wouldn't have listened, they figured they'd get something that fits their current team in return by not having to pay him a potential $300 million deal to miss half the season because his obsession with the game doesn't match his talent.

What a reach

Indeed, most NBA fans are really dumb, it's a sad sight.

[Kobe187]

Luka might need 1-2 years to get back to his elite level, more news I hear about this trade the less crazy it seems.

[CobraCommander]

I honestly don't care if he's a crackhead if he's going to put up 73 points in an NBA game, average 34 and take a team to the Finals before hitting his prime.

Luka could show up like this and I would super max him



Luka “get me the rock”

[Sane]

Why did they not do their due diligence? Did they call anyone else? That's mismanagement. How can you explain that he didn't ask to be traded there and you didn't get a 2nd or 3rd offer to compare?

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I’m guessing maybe OKC or Boston? Not sure what other team would decline besides Denver/Bucks

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Possibly Sacramento involving a trade for Fox.

Or possibly lying his bum off because it's ILLEGAL for him not to offer the player to other teams. It would breach his duty to the board to always get the best deal for the organization (always make the most profitable choice is a legal duty). You simply can't justify it.

You guys all know if they had contacted one other team, that team would be talking or leaking right now. Man come on, this is not a movie yo, two good friends traded players for each other and in truth they are the two that know 90% of what went on.

You think I believe LEBRON didn't know? lol I don't believe a guy who for the last 4 major transactions says he didn't really know about it. Even if you were second fiddle you wouldn't be shut out of things. Obviously his team has decided to say "didn't know anything" for every single trade because his legacy was being infested with "he controls the trades and the trades are not going well". Especially after Russ. Sheesh you want me to believe they traded his Klutch bro without telling him? I MIGHT believe they would do that to AD. Not Lebron. Lebron Knew. Maverick does the dirty work.

Harris traded Doncic to his buddy and they spent 3 weeks planning how to bull us about why it made sense. It's a hypnosis exercise and also an exercise to ARM Lebron/Laker fans with easily-debunked excuses so that we waste time arguing with each other and then slowly just accept it.

Don't fall for this. Someone powerful - whoever you believe it is - forced Luka to Lakers at a lower price than they could've gotten for him otherwise. That's the bottom line that's not adding up. I don't even care if they nominally called one other person. Something suspicious is going on here.

The Nike guy traded Luka to his agent friend and the most profitable Nike asset of all time (Lebron) for a 36 yr old AD and a garbage FRP. This is corruption and nepotism guys, don't delude yourselves just because they're good at putting out PR that makes things just hazy enough to say "UHH WELL THERE"S NO PROOF".

No one in the world is going to convince me that they couldn't have traded Luka for 6 picks, then used 3-4 picks to get AD.

[Mrakar]

No1 cares even if he was 370...He led NBA team to the finals on one leg.
Mavs fans should protest and not show up to the games untill Harisson is fired.(even though he will easily find well payed assistant GM job in LA...)

[Sane]

Fair enough lol. But I wonder if Luka is dysfunctionally competitive enough to continue getting better or if he will be another Mbappe, who peaked in his early 20s when he reached the top and no longer felt like he had to prove he was a magician. Especially now that he's gunna be living in LA.

Mbappe is about the same age as Luka and is still arguably the a top 3 striker in the world, many would argue he's the best

I mean, if that's him not trying to get better..any team would be happy to have a world class player

Besides, I don't buy into Luka not being competitive or competitive enough. he may not be professional enough but that's different than competitiveness

5 years ago Mbappe looked like the next Ronaldo/Messi tier GOAT contender, who would be in a tier of his own with Haaland for a decade+. Now he's not even Real's key man. He's still an amazing talent, but he's just one of the best right now along with Wirtz / Musiala / Haaland / Bellingham / Vini / etc.; not running out ahead of the pack.

Not saying I think Luka will become Zion, but I do wonder if he'll ever reach an even higher level or if he won't become more mortal.

Luka going to the Lakers just gives me Mbappe finally going to Real vibes.

This is not a good example brother. It's obvious Mbappe doesn't look as good because he went from competing in a mediocre league (France) to arguably the best one in the world (Spain). It's obvious he would not look as good.

Luka is staying in the same league and joining a team with the exact same calibre of help surrounding him. He WILL be the key man because he's a top 5-10 NBA player based on his appearances this season and top 3 in most of his recent seasons. Lebron and Kyrie roughly equal at this age as 1B's. Role players average on both teams. Luka's just gonna Luka. First fat, then he'll drop some as he plays, then he'll drop some more this summer. Just like that.

Everyone's going to say "but you weren't sure he'd do that" but I am sure he will and you wouldn't bet against it. I am also 100% sure that a mental health professional could have sorted his conditioning issues for Dallas - it's not that big a deal to fix, you just can't hope the person does it on their own sometimes. It's common knowledge. You don't have to trade him for 36 year old AD and a useless pick.

[Sofia]

Here comes the spin.

That’s just the rotation caused by orbiting his gravitational pull

[Sofia]

It's prob from Tim Mcmahon, Luka hates his guts and he has always been a Luka hater.

No man has enough hate in him to hate all of Luka’s gut.

[Sofia]

It looked liked they were walking on eggshells around the issues with his weight.

That’s just from all the cakes they’d baked for him

[peZt]

Is the near triple double he is averaging while dragging their mid team to the finals worth less because he is fat? I dont get it