Curry has dominated this era, but would get crushed in the 90's

[sashaturiaf]

So let me get this straight. Curry who took what Reggie Miller did to the next level would struggle against the big bad tough New York Knicks when Reggie Miller made those guys look like absolute fools throughout his career. Right.

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Reggie Miller was 6'8" and a true off-ball player and while he was a bad defender as well he at least had positional size and could switch. Curry's size and defense wouldn't allow him to play off-ball as a SG so he'd have to be a PG and in that era point guards didn't jack up threes and play off-ball and didn't see the floor unless they were either very good defenders or at the very least scrappy on that end.

Reggie might force the NBA to change their rules in this era.

I mean Mikal Bridges can average 20 in this era. Reggie is good for 30 in his sleep

[RRR3]

So let me get this straight. Curry who took what Reggie Miller did to the next level would struggle against the big bad tough New York Knicks when Reggie Miller made those guys look like absolute fools throughout his career. Right.

Watch on YouTube

Reggie Miller was 6'8" and a true off-ball player and while he was a bad defender as well he at least had positional size and could switch. Curry's size and defense wouldn't allow him to play off-ball as a SG so he'd have to be a PG and in that era point guards didn't jack up threes and play off-ball and didn't see the floor unless they were either very good defenders or at the very least scrappy on that end.

Reggie might force the NBA to change their rules in this era.

I mean Mikal Bridges can average 20 in this era. Reggie is good for 30 in his sleep

Tony Campbell averaged 20 PPG multiple times in the 90s.



TONY.






CAMPBELL.

[SpreeS]

His dad's slower, doesn't have half the ball handling, he was weaker peak vs peak, he didn't finish as well at the rim....no they're not the same. His bother is a shorter version of his dad.

Oh and no they aren't close in terms of shooting. Just look at his free throw shooting. 84.3% vs 91.1%

Extremely tough to actually watch Dell and think, "just fast forward to the 2010's, this is Curry". It would take some real poor basketball analysis, scouting ability and ability to understand skills and what's happening on the floor to do that.

At least is someone said Abdul Rauf, you're at least talk about some similar skillsets, though of course Steph is bigger, superior off ball, superior paint finisher, so I mean, those are big deals.

It's almost as odd as if someone said, see Bronny? That's what LeBron would be if he was born in the 2020's

It's basically just saying, since they are related, it's the same player, which makes no sense. So Kobe's dad if he was born in the 70'a would be Kobe? Of course not, we don't think that of any father/son, lol

Uh Bronny is about 7 inches shorter than LeBronny. Imagine if LeBronny was 6'1, i doubt he'd be in the league with his stiff awkward moves.


Dell was taller than Steph and lead the league in 3pt shooting % multiple times which Steph has never done. Unless if you think being taller is a disadvantage in basketball they are no way comparable to Bronny/LeBronny.

To compare Curry 3P% with spot up shooters its like compare finger with d..... Curry 3P shots difficulty is x levels higher than everyone else.

[Pantsman]

Steve Kerr was one of the best 3 point shooters ever in the 90s. Curry would be fine.

[sashaturiaf]

Extremely tough to actually watch Dell and think, "just fast forward to the 2010's, this is Curry". It would take some real poor basketball analysis, scouting ability and ability to understand skills and what's happening on the floor to do that.

At least is someone said Abdul Rauf, you're at least talk about some similar skillsets, though of course Steph is bigger, superior off ball, superior paint finisher, so I mean, those are big deals.

It's almost as odd as if someone said, see Bronny? That's what LeBron would be if he was born in the 2020's

It's basically just saying, since they are related, it's the same player, which makes no sense. So Kobe's dad if he was born in the 70'a would be Kobe? Of course not, we don't think that of any father/son, lol

Uh Bronny is about 7 inches shorter than LeBronny. Imagine if LeBronny was 6'1, i doubt he'd be in the league with his stiff awkward moves.


Dell was taller than Steph and lead the league in 3pt shooting % multiple times which Steph has never done. Unless if you think being taller is a disadvantage in basketball they are no way comparable to Bronny/LeBronny.

To compare Curry 3P% with spot up shooters its like compare finger with d..... Curry 3P shots difficulty is x levels higher than everyone else.

Higher difficulty than this pampered generation sure. Take Steph back to the 90s and allow him to shoot his 3s with hand checking menaces on the perimeter and no illegal screens and suddenly he looks a lot like Dell....

[sashaturiaf]

Reggie Miller was 6'8" and a true off-ball player and while he was a bad defender as well he at least had positional size and could switch. Curry's size and defense wouldn't allow him to play off-ball as a SG so he'd have to be a PG and in that era point guards didn't jack up threes and play off-ball and didn't see the floor unless they were either very good defenders or at the very least scrappy on that end.

Reggie might force the NBA to change their rules in this era.

I mean Mikal Bridges can average 20 in this era. Reggie is good for 30 in his sleep

Tony Campbell averaged 20 PPG multiple times in the 90s.



TONY.






CAMPBELL.

What's so funny about Tony Campbell, overshadowed by better players perhaps but he's a fine player. He's probably getting a $200m contract in today's league

[SpreeS]

Uh Bronny is about 7 inches shorter than LeBronny. Imagine if LeBronny was 6'1, i doubt he'd be in the league with his stiff awkward moves.


Dell was taller than Steph and lead the league in 3pt shooting % multiple times which Steph has never done. Unless if you think being taller is a disadvantage in basketball they are no way comparable to Bronny/LeBronny.

To compare Curry 3P% with spot up shooters its like compare finger with d..... Curry 3P shots difficulty is x levels higher than everyone else.

Higher difficulty than this pampered generation sure. Take Steph back to the 90s and allow him to shoot his 3s with hand checking menaces on the perimeter and no illegal screens and suddenly he looks a lot like Dell....

One of the best ball handler in NBA history would look like spot up shooter in 90ies…. Please stop.

[WarriorGM]

Curry has dominated this era.

Full stop. That's all we really need to know.

[RRR3]

Reggie might force the NBA to change their rules in this era.

I mean Mikal Bridges can average 20 in this era. Reggie is good for 30 in his sleep

Tony Campbell averaged 20 PPG multiple times in the 90s.



TONY.






CAMPBELL.

What's so funny about Tony Campbell, overshadowed by better players perhaps but he's a fine player. He's probably getting a $200m contract in today's league

He was a small forward who couldn’t shoot 3s and never played more than 19.3 MPG when he was on a team that wasn’t the expansion Timberwolves.

Do you seriously think your childhood just magically happened to be the peak of civilization?

[RRR3]

Curry has dominated this era.

Full stop. That's all we really need to know.

He’d dominate any era. Anyone in the top 10 would, this should be a pretty unanimous opinion.

For those who don’t think Curry is top 10, well even the worst estimates of him should at least place him close to that unless you’re a troll.

[RRR3]

My reaction to the idea that Tony **** Campbell would outscore Steph Curry in any era

https://youtu.be/DAk0oEoA8fQ?si=Aymj09SHsXw2REbZ

[JN61]

Dominated?

[dhsilv2]

I'd still argue he was better than some players who received higher accolades. All 3 members of RUN TMC made higher than All-NBA Third. And I'd take him over any of them on most teams. Richmond is the most straightforward comparision, and there's no world in which I'd consider him over Reggie.

I'd think about it. Richmond was a better defender and a bit better at creating shots for others, and he supported a higher scoring volume in the RS.

Miller's off ball action much like Curry created for others. It's always tough to quantify that kind of stuff, especially since we don't have RAPM from that era. But I don't think any reasonable person can argue he wasn't having that impact. Mitch is harder for me to comment on...like he had one playoff series during his Kings days. Otherwise we got one game a year with him on national TV. But I never really saw him as having any real strong play making skills. I'm sure he got more assists but that's just one way you create.

[dhsilv2]

His dad's slower, doesn't have half the ball handling, he was weaker peak vs peak, he didn't finish as well at the rim....no they're not the same. His bother is a shorter version of his dad.

Oh and no they aren't close in terms of shooting. Just look at his free throw shooting. 84.3% vs 91.1%

Extremely tough to actually watch Dell and think, "just fast forward to the 2010's, this is Curry". It would take some real poor basketball analysis, scouting ability and ability to understand skills and what's happening on the floor to do that.

At least is someone said Abdul Rauf, you're at least talk about some similar skillsets, though of course Steph is bigger, superior off ball, superior paint finisher, so I mean, those are big deals.

It's almost as odd as if someone said, see Bronny? That's what LeBron would be if he was born in the 2020's

It's basically just saying, since they are related, it's the same player, which makes no sense. So Kobe's dad if he was born in the 70'a would be Kobe? Of course not, we don't think that of any father/son, lol

Uh Bronny is about 7 inches shorter than LeBronny. Imagine if LeBronny was 6'1, i doubt he'd be in the league with his stiff awkward moves.


Dell was taller than Steph and lead the league in 3pt shooting % multiple times which Steph has never done. Unless if you think being taller is a disadvantage in basketball they are no way comparable to Bronny/LeBronny.

Dell lead the league in 3 point percentage in 1999, not exactly a hall mark year for shooting. Steph has lead the league in attempts 8 times, he dad had one top 5 and never even made the top 10 again. Not the same at all.

But the difference in coordination and speed between Steph and his dad are just as insane as the gap in height in lebron and his son.

[Haldi]

The only major thing that would change if Curry played in the 90’s is that the league would have evolved into its current state even sooner.

I'll make a distinction:

If Curry played like he does today back then, he'd instantly be the best player in the world and force the league to wake up to 3-point shooting and evolve faster just as you say. The only question is how quickly the NBA would evolve strategically, and whether those changes would come fast enough to bring Curry back down to something near the level of effectiveness he's been at in his own era, in which case it's not clear he'd be as good as Jordan.

If Curry were the player he is now but was forced to play like coaches back then thought basketball worked, then he probably doesn't spend much time on the court in the NBA. If you're not drafting him with the intent of having him take a lot of 3's, I'm not really sure why you're drafting him.

There isn’t a coach in the world, even back then, that would prevent Curry from playing like he is now back then. People often make this mistake. The reason you didn’t see even the best 3 point shooters back then shoot this much, is because they weren’t good enough for all those attempts to be ‘good shots’. Curry can shoot off ANY type of action, with very little daylight, and its still considered a good shot. When even Reggie was taking some of those tougher shots you would instantly hear the announcers say that was a bad attempt, cause it was. And coaches back then wanted to limit those bad attempt, even in their best shooters.

There is an ocean of difference between how good Curry is at shooting (and lots of other shooters today) and the great shooters back then. And I say this as probably the biggest Reggie fan back then. There is zero coach that would’ve looked at Curry in practice and said, you know, we’re not gonna use this at all lol.

And furthermore, even if you just strip Curry’s 3 point shooting shooting away from him, hes still a star level guard or close to it, in the 90s. Mark Jackson was a one time all star and had a long career and Curry is better at pretty much everything in basketball than he is, except for posting up and playing post defense on another guard. Every other skills Curry has is severely underrated because he’s so good at shooting, its kinda stupid. He is one of thest past passers and finishers in the game in an era with way better passing and finishing than in the past and some don’t think he would ‘fit’ back then. Lolol

[dhsilv2]

Uh Bronny is about 7 inches shorter than LeBronny. Imagine if LeBronny was 6'1, i doubt he'd be in the league with his stiff awkward moves.


Dell was taller than Steph and lead the league in 3pt shooting % multiple times which Steph has never done. Unless if you think being taller is a disadvantage in basketball they are no way comparable to Bronny/LeBronny.

To compare Curry 3P% with spot up shooters its like compare finger with d..... Curry 3P shots difficulty is x levels higher than everyone else.

Higher difficulty than this pampered generation sure. Take Steph back to the 90s and allow him to shoot his 3s with hand checking menaces on the perimeter and no illegal screens and suddenly he looks a lot like Dell....

lol, if you want to watch Steph get handchecked on every single play (more than any 90's playoff series I've seen), go watch Curry against Boston a few years back. Nobody was guarding 3's in the 90's. Dell was taking open to lightly contested 3's all game long.

[tsherkin]

It's fair to point out that Reggie's scoring volume is notably depressed by the glacial (even relative to other teams of the era) pace that the Pacers played at

A bit hyperbolic. They averaged 18th in the league across his career, and were as high as 5th in the league in pace at times in his career. They slowed down with everyone else in the mid to late 90s and early 2000s, of course, but yeah. During his 20s, they were about 15th in the league on average. Hardly "glacial" at all.

. The gap in volume scoring between he and Richmond is much smaller with a grand canyon of distance between them in terms of efficiency.

True. But the playmaking difference is there, and impact stats tend to even things out between the two of them some.

It's a contestable thing. I don't actually believe Richmond was a clearly better player, just that he was in the neighborhood. Reggie was pretty useless outside of scoring, but he was EXTREMELY good at scoring. He's sort of like the 90s version of Adrian Dantley, but at lower volume.

[seren]

The modern athlete is so much better at everything than the 90s or earlier era. It is a disservice to make these comparisons. It serves really no purpose. Today’s athletes go through a grind from such a young age. It is not comparable at all.

[Accurim]

curry clearly above everyone in this era of shooting. he'd be destroying the 90s game, coaches would be losing their minds someone can shoot beyond 18ft off the dribble.

[nikster]

So let me get this straight. Curry who took what Reggie Miller did to the next level would struggle against the big bad tough New York Knicks when Reggie Miller made those guys look like absolute fools throughout his career. Right.

Watch on YouTube

Reggie Miller was 6'8" and a true off-ball player and while he was a bad defender as well he at least had positional size and could switch. Curry's size and defense wouldn't allow him to play off-ball as a SG so he'd have to be a PG and in that era point guards didn't jack up threes and play off-ball and didn't see the floor unless they were either very good defenders or at the very least scrappy on that end.

Chicaga won 6 chips with off ball PG in Paxson and Kerr. Kenny Smith was another more off ball PG than true PG. If f.... Dana Barros 5-11 could have season with 20.6pts 7.5ast 5.2 3PA, cant imagine what Curry would do in this era

People also totally underestimate hwo much difference size/strength makes. Curry is absolutely jacked compared to most PGs and even SGs of that era. Reggie Miller weighs the same amount at 5 inches taller yet for some reason people think Curry would struggle with physicality?