Is the Lottery Rigged?

[Lala870]

??? - the league only let the team that wins, win. That sounds about right how things should be done. There is reason people stuck in conspiracies. The whole world is a conspiracy so the NBA must be. What can you do?

This is ignorance. How can you say this after the NBA manufactured Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, Curry etc? NFL with brady mahomes... always with the GOAT conversation

Rule changes etc, etc

Manufactured? Like get a few scientists together, mix a few clones in and create a super human for basketball? Probably needed help from aliens too. So that is what they are doing in area 51.

I mean that was the plot in Space Jam right?

[TimberKat]

This is ignorance. How can you say this after the NBA manufactured Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, Curry etc? NFL with brady mahomes... always with the GOAT conversation

Rule changes etc, etc

Manufactured? Like get a few scientists together, mix a few clones in and create a super human for basketball? Probably needed help from aliens too. So that is what they are doing in area 51.

I mean that was the plot in Space Jam right?

Yes, that documentary.

[Lala870]

If the NBA had all this power to manipulate outcomes why did they allows the Knicks, NYC's team, the worst winning percentage in the NBA over a 19 year span? 39% from 2002 to 2020.

Did they not realize there is more money in NYC than SA?

You realize only one team can win the chip right?

League didnt let any team from the east outside of the pistons and big 3 do anything during Kobes run (and then curry).

Plus the Knicks have been a marketable train wreck IMO. MSG and the knick fan base loves that whole NY vs the world stick they run with (see stephen a smith). Did you also forget the Knicks got Melo/Amare???

Ah yes, the league was rigged for the Pistons, because Detroit is a huge market and that team had a bunch of marketable stars. And then the league rigged it for Pistons/Spurs in 2005.

If the league was rigged we’d have gotten a Lebron/Kobe finals.

Not like the nBA hasnt done it before with the bad boy pistons.

"The Knicks/Lakers dont win the title every year therefore its not rigged" - NBA fan logic

[Lala870]

Manufactured? Like get a few scientists together, mix a few clones in and create a super human for basketball? Probably needed help from aliens too. So that is what they are doing in area 51.

I mean that was the plot in Space Jam right?

Yes, that documentary.

Lighten up a bit buttercup. You seem tense.

[TimberKat]

You realize only one team can win the chip right?

League didnt let any team from the east outside of the pistons and big 3 do anything during Kobes run (and then curry).

Plus the Knicks have been a marketable train wreck IMO. MSG and the knick fan base loves that whole NY vs the world stick they run with (see stephen a smith). Did you also forget the Knicks got Melo/Amare???

Ah yes, the league was rigged for the Pistons, because Detroit is a huge market and that team had a bunch of marketable stars. And then the league rigged it for Pistons/Spurs in 2005.

If the league was rigged we’d have gotten a Lebron/Kobe finals.

Not like the nBA hasnt done it before with the bad boy pistons.

"The Knicks/Lakers dont win the title every year therefore its not rigged" - NBA fan logic

Yes, it is all controlled by Skynet so only certain events happen to ensure judgement day occurs as planned.

[TFJava]

No.

[TimberKat]

I mean that was the plot in Space Jam right?

Yes, that documentary.

Lighten up a bit buttercup. You seem tense.

I am having fun with this, learning a lot of new stuff.

[Lala870]

Yes, that documentary.

Lighten up a bit buttercup. You seem tense.

I am having fun with this, learning a lot of new stuff.

Like skynet and judgement day? Nice bro

[knicksfan974]

If the NBA had all this power to manipulate outcomes why did they allows the Knicks, NYC's team, the worst winning percentage in the NBA over a 19 year span? 39% from 2002 to 2020.

Did they not realize there is more money in NYC than SA?

You realize only one team can win the chip right?

League didnt let any team from the east outside of the pistons and big 3 do anything during Kobes run (and then curry).

Plus the Knicks have been a marketable train wreck IMO. MSG and the knick fan base loves that whole NY vs the world stick they run with (see stephen a smith). Did you also forget the Knicks got Melo/Amare???

I'm not talking about winning titles. They were awful. 39%. Why would the Nba allow this?

What's past is the past, but for me the Luka trade was a confirmation that the league has power to force things when deemed neccessary. They wanted Luka to the Lakers and he was delivered to them on a golden platter. Don't buy the bs reasoning by the Mavs (Luka's conditioning, not wanting to pay Luka etc), you just traded a 25 yo top3 player in the world, a player who took you single-handedly to the NBA Finals, for a 32 yo always injured Anthony Davis, who has a 3/190M albatross contract. AD's conditioning will always be worse than Luka's, and his contract is huge also. There is no way you do this trade if you are not forced to do it. Bottom line: The NBA is big business, and an entertainment business. They will do what's needed to keep people entertained.

[TimberKat]

Lighten up a bit buttercup. You seem tense.

I am having fun with this, learning a lot of new stuff.

Like skynet and judgement day? Nice bro

Yes, that sums up the Rigg lottery. It's all controlled by Skynet.

[sp6r=underrated]

You realize only one team can win the chip right?

League didnt let any team from the east outside of the pistons and big 3 do anything during Kobes run (and then curry).

Plus the Knicks have been a marketable train wreck IMO. MSG and the knick fan base loves that whole NY vs the world stick they run with (see stephen a smith). Did you also forget the Knicks got Melo/Amare???

I'm not talking about winning titles. They were awful. 39%. Why would the Nba allow this?

What's past is the past, but for me the Luka trade was a confirmation that the league has power to force things when deemed neccessary. They wanted Luka to the Lakers and he was delivered to them on a golden platter. Don't buy the bs reasoning by the Mavs (Luka's conditioning, not wanting to pay Luka etc), you just traded a 25 yo top3 player in the world, a player who took you single-handedly to the NBA Finals, for a 32 yo always injured Anthony Davis, who has a 3/190M albatross contract. AD's conditioning will always be worse than Luka's, and his contract is huge also. There is no way you do this trade if you are not forced to do it. Bottom line: The NBA is big business, and an entertainment business. They will do what's needed to keep people entertained.

If they could force things why not force SA to trade Wemby? Dallas is a massive market and their fans are livid. Why damage a critical market?

[knicksfan974]

I'm not talking about winning titles. They were awful. 39%. Why would the Nba allow this?

What's past is the past, but for me the Luka trade was a confirmation that the league has power to force things when deemed neccessary. They wanted Luka to the Lakers and he was delivered to them on a golden platter. Don't buy the bs reasoning by the Mavs (Luka's conditioning, not wanting to pay Luka etc), you just traded a 25 yo top3 player in the world, a player who took you single-handedly to the NBA Finals, for a 32 yo always injured Anthony Davis, who has a 3/190M albatross contract. AD's conditioning will always be worse than Luka's, and his contract is huge also. There is no way you do this trade if you are not forced to do it. Bottom line: The NBA is big business, and an entertainment business. They will do what's needed to keep people entertained.

If they could force things why not force SA to trade Wemby? Dallas is a massive market and their fans are livid. Why damage a critical market?

They will set up a Wemby move when the time is right. No way a once-in-a-lifetime prospect like Wemby spends all his career in a small market.

[NZB2323]

You realize only one team can win the chip right?

League didnt let any team from the east outside of the pistons and big 3 do anything during Kobes run (and then curry).

Plus the Knicks have been a marketable train wreck IMO. MSG and the knick fan base loves that whole NY vs the world stick they run with (see stephen a smith). Did you also forget the Knicks got Melo/Amare???

I'm not talking about winning titles. They were awful. 39%. Why would the Nba allow this?

What's past is the past, but for me the Luka trade was a confirmation that the league has power to force things when deemed neccessary. They wanted Luka to the Lakers and he was delivered to them on a golden platter. Don't buy the bs reasoning by the Mavs (Luka's conditioning, not wanting to pay Luka etc), you just traded a 25 yo top3 player in the world, a player who took you single-handedly to the NBA Finals, for a 32 yo always injured Anthony Davis, who has a 3/190M albatross contract. AD's conditioning will always be worse than Luka's, and his contract is huge also. There is no way you do this trade if you are not forced to do it. Bottom line: The NBA is big business, and an entertainment business. They will do what's needed to keep people entertained.

If the league is all about getting stars to LA then why did they veto the CP3 trade?

[JustBuzzin]

I'm not talking about winning titles. They were awful. 39%. Why would the Nba allow this?

What's past is the past, but for me the Luka trade was a confirmation that the league has power to force things when deemed neccessary. They wanted Luka to the Lakers and he was delivered to them on a golden platter. Don't buy the bs reasoning by the Mavs (Luka's conditioning, not wanting to pay Luka etc), you just traded a 25 yo top3 player in the world, a player who took you single-handedly to the NBA Finals, for a 32 yo always injured Anthony Davis, who has a 3/190M albatross contract. AD's conditioning will always be worse than Luka's, and his contract is huge also. There is no way you do this trade if you are not forced to do it. Bottom line: The NBA is big business, and an entertainment business. They will do what's needed to keep people entertained.

If the league is all about getting stars to LA then why did they veto the CP3 trade?

Stern vetoed that trade as he was the Pelicans owner at the time.

Also CP3 was not enough to make a power shift within the league. As great as he was I'm not sure he and Kobe would have meshed well. A ball dominate PG with a ball dominate sg wasn't going to be the best fit.


Even Nash and Kobe had trouble fitting together.

[sp6r=underrated]

1. Why would a major accounting firm risk its credibility for such a small customer?

They're corrupt.

2. Why would the other owners agree to manipulate things for the Lakers?

The need the Lakers to be great to make money. The only vetoed the Chris Paul trade because it was a unique situation in which the Lakers weren't necessary.

3. Why would the NBA not manipulate things for the Knicks (44 winning percentage this century)?

Having a winning team in NY doesn't matter.

4. Why would the NBA not manipulate things for the Bulls (46 winning percentage this century)?

Having a winning team in Chicago doesn't matter.

5. Why hasn't the media uncovered evidence of the conspiracy?

The NBA is too powerful and the media is complicit.

6. Why has no recordings or writted documents evidence of the conspiracy leaked?

The NBA conspirators are more competent and powerful than the Mafia or the White House during Watergate.

[Case2012]

I dont get the lottery system. The guys pulls out a bunch of random balls and then some other guy yells a team out? It's more like bingo.

[TimberKat]

1. Why would a major accounting firm risk its credibility for such a small customer?

They're corrupt.

2. Why would the other owners agree to manipulate things for the Lakers?

The need the Lakers to be great to make money. The only vetoed the Chris Paul trade because it was a unique situation in which the Lakers weren't necessary.

3. Why would the NBA not manipulate things for the Knicks (44 winning percentage this century)?

Having a winning team in NY doesn't matter.

4. Why would the NBA not manipulate things for the Bulls (46 winning percentage this century)?

Having a winning team in Chicago doesn't matter.

5. Why hasn't the media uncovered evidence of the conspiracy?

The NBA is too powerful and the media is complicit.

6. Why has no recordings or writted documents evidence of the conspiracy leaked?

The NBA conspirators are more competent and powerful than the Mafia or the White House during Watergate.

Skynet controls everything. You can't use logic to explain what is going on.

[TimberKat]

I dont get the lottery system. The guys pulls out a bunch of random balls and then some other guy yells a team out? It's more like bingo.

Bingo

[Lala870]

I'm not talking about winning titles. They were awful. 39%. Why would the Nba allow this?

What's past is the past, but for me the Luka trade was a confirmation that the league has power to force things when deemed neccessary. They wanted Luka to the Lakers and he was delivered to them on a golden platter. Don't buy the bs reasoning by the Mavs (Luka's conditioning, not wanting to pay Luka etc), you just traded a 25 yo top3 player in the world, a player who took you single-handedly to the NBA Finals, for a 32 yo always injured Anthony Davis, who has a 3/190M albatross contract. AD's conditioning will always be worse than Luka's, and his contract is huge also. There is no way you do this trade if you are not forced to do it. Bottom line: The NBA is big business, and an entertainment business. They will do what's needed to keep people entertained.

If the league is all about getting stars to LA then why did they veto the CP3 trade?

Kobe was done winning titles at that point. I agree with Woj on melos podcast that even with CP3 they were not winning anything.

Plus the NBA had the big 3, OKC, etc and Golden State was on the verge of becoming the NBA's favorite toy.

[sp6r=underrated]

What's past is the past, but for me the Luka trade was a confirmation that the league has power to force things when deemed neccessary. They wanted Luka to the Lakers and he was delivered to them on a golden platter. Don't buy the bs reasoning by the Mavs (Luka's conditioning, not wanting to pay Luka etc), you just traded a 25 yo top3 player in the world, a player who took you single-handedly to the NBA Finals, for a 32 yo always injured Anthony Davis, who has a 3/190M albatross contract. AD's conditioning will always be worse than Luka's, and his contract is huge also. There is no way you do this trade if you are not forced to do it. Bottom line: The NBA is big business, and an entertainment business. They will do what's needed to keep people entertained.

If the league is all about getting stars to LA then why did they veto the CP3 trade?

Kobe was done winning titles at that point. I agree with Woj on melos podcast that even with CP3 they were not winning anything.

Plus the NBA had the big 3, OKC, etc and Golden State was on the verge of becoming the NBA's favorite toy.

As I said the conspiracy theory is unfalsefiable. No matter what happens the theory can never be dented.