1 Million? Seriously?

[Storm Surge]

Why are people ignoring the NHL? They only gave 100K and that is downright pathetic. I know they are not even a major sport in the USA now but they are definitely not 10% of the NBA.

[TheDunc]

Why are people ignoring the NHL? They only gave 100K and that is downright pathetic. I know they are not even a major sport in the USA now but they are definitely not 10% of the NBA.

Are you kidding me? 100k? i think there forgetting why they are employed.Its because of the people they have jobs so at the very least when people are in need they should be somewhat generous. I realize that haiti isnt big in sports but for times like these we are all family. That place was in trouble before now its really a disaster.

[Manocad]

Are you kidding me? 100k? i think there forgetting why they are employed.Its because of the people they have jobs so at the very least when people are in need they should be somewhat generous. I realize that haiti isnt big in sports but for times like these we are all family. That place was in trouble before now its really a disaster.

I like that concept...we are all family.

My wife is educated (Bachelor's and Master's), well-experienced (over 10 years), and got laid off in June 2008. She hasn't been able to find a job since, at any pay level. I have three kids, a mortgage, insurance, medical bills, dentists bills--all the stuff you'd normally pay--with half the household income gone. It is truly a depression here in Michigan.

Since we're all family, I'd like you to send me your money. You have a moral obligation to help me.

[HMFFL]

I take it you've never heard of combat engineers, Seabees, Red Horse, etc. I spent 15 years as a civilian engineer working for the USACE and USAR Engineers. I've spent a considerable time on humanitarian and disaster response projects, with hundreds of uniformed soldiers happy to wield an M-16 and a hammer.

Sure, let's just send the Navy over there, and our seabeas to build Haiti up. They'll be over there well over the 15 years you did your time and will just continue to abandon our own projects/disasters here. I have never heard of Red Horses before.

Are you in favor of investing the time and money it would take to build Haiti up? Remember, like Lakers05 said, the houses will need to be able to withstand earthquakes (magnitude 7.0).

[Bskey]

How does 400-450 players giving up one thousand a piece become 450k-500k dollars?

Because guys like Lebron and Kobe would one up each other, and Jennings would accidentally add a digit or two to his donation and people will say he is going to be one of the best donors in the league only to be disappointed by his future lackluster donations.

[Scuall]

I take it you've never heard of combat engineers, Seabees, Red Horse, etc. I spent 15 years as a civilian engineer working for the USACE and USAR Engineers. I've spent a considerable time on humanitarian and disaster response projects, with hundreds of uniformed soldiers happy to wield an M-16 and a hammer.

Sure, let's just send the Navy over there, and our seabeas to build Haiti up. They'll be over there well over the 15 years you did your time and will just continue to abandon our own projects/disasters here. I have never heard of Red Horses before.

Are you in favor of investing the time and money it would take to build Haiti up? Remember, like Lakers05 said, the houses will need to be able to withstand earthquakes (magnitude 7.0).

Huh??? I was responding to the fact that you stated soldiers are meant to be soldiers and not for labor/general construction. In no way did I suggest using troops to build permanent shelter. I don't know where you got that from.

As far as building to seismic code, I wrote simply, "Building to seismic code is very specific, very laborious, very expensive and takes exceptional skill." I have good knowledge of it, I've been involved in ~$80-120M in new construction throughout California and the Pacific Rim. Without researching it, Port Au Prince appears to have a very high population density. Building simple lean-to's is one thing; multi-family housing is another. I've seen some very creative structurally sound and rudimentary multi-family housing plans using readily available excess materials (i.e. used connex's). Depending on the amount of contingency funding that the country will receive, it will be interesting to see how the reconstruction of the country proceeds. Of course all that is secondary right now, the emergency response is of utmost importance.

Anyways, any of the do-gooders in this thread volunteering with the response efforts?

[milehigh]

Manocad is exactly right about this. If you are so passionate about this topic stop worrying about what this corporation or this person is doing or giving. Even if you have a point what good is it arguing about it on a internet message board?

Go out and raise money YOURSELF and do all that YOU can to raise awareness. You can only control your actions and even a broke college student can make a difference, but I guess sitting at your computer whining to people on realgm about how much the NBA is giving or not giving is really doing the Haitian people a service? Seriously get off your high horse and go out and do something if you're so worked up about this.

[boomheadshot]

Did anybody say this yet? I'm sure I'm not the first to say it...

recession!

[Spicy P]

It's a business, not a charity

[WhateverBro]

Are you kidding me? 100k? i think there forgetting why they are employed.Its because of the people they have jobs so at the very least when people are in need they should be somewhat generous. I realize that haiti isnt big in sports but for times like these we are all family. That place was in trouble before now its really a disaster.

I like that concept...we are all family.

My wife is educated (Bachelor's and Master's), well-experienced (over 10 years), and got laid off in June 2008. She hasn't been able to find a job since, at any pay level. I have three kids, a mortgage, insurance, medical bills, dentists bills--all the stuff you'd normally pay--with half the household income gone. It is truly a depression here in Michigan.

Since we're all family, I'd like you to send me your money. You have a moral obligation to help me.

Are you comparing your wife being laid off to what's happening in Haiti?

[Speedlot]

This thread has 10 pages? You can't whine and cry about what other people should do with their own money.

[cb4_89]

Michael Schumacher donated 10 Million Dollar to the Tsunami Victims back in '05

I think 1 Million is a Joke.....

How much did you donate?

[GDS20]

Michael Schumacher donated 10 Million Dollar to the Tsunami Victims back in '05

I think 1 Million is a Joke.....

How much did you donate?

How much did you donate?

[cb4_89]

Michael Schumacher donated 10 Million Dollar to the Tsunami Victims back in '05

I think 1 Million is a Joke.....

How much did you donate?

How much did you donate?

What does that matter? I am not the one that said the 1 million is a joke. I am pretty sure Haiti would much rather want 1 mill from the nba than your entire yearly salary.

[GDS20]

Do you want to compare my salary to the NBA's yearly revenue, 1 million is pennies to them

[cb4_89]

It doesn't matter to Haiti. They will take the larger amount without hesitation and wouldn't care about donations relative to income. 1 million is a lot of money for anyone. Plus the nba has a lot of other programs they do where they donate a lot more than a million if you add all that up. And the NBA is a business. Just like most people don't donate their entire disposable income, the NBA doesn't have to. They have their profit margins they want to keep and in the time of a recession, a million is massive.

[Manocad]

Are you comparing your wife being laid off to what's happening in Haiti?

So much for reading comprehension. Here, let me put it in a Cliff's Notes version so it's easy to understand.

Him: It's BS that the NBA is only donating $1 million to Haiti.
Me: You don't have a right to tell other people what to do with their money.
Him: Yes I do, because we're all family.
Me: Ok, then 'since we're all family' and we have the right to tell each other what to do with our money, send me your money because I need help due to my wife being laid off.

Message: If you have a right to tell other people what to do with their money, then other people have a right to tell you what to do with yours.

Notice how there's no comparison there whatsoever. Got it now? Good.

[TheDunc]

Are you comparing your wife being laid off to what's happening in Haiti?

So much for reading comprehension. Here, let me put it in a Cliff's Notes version so it's easy to understand.

Him: It's BS that the NBA is only donating $1 million to Haiti.
Me: You don't have a right to tell other people what to do with their money.
Him: Yes I do, because we're all family.
Me: Ok, then 'since we're all family' and we have the right to tell each other what to do with our money, send me your money because I need help due to my wife being laid off.

Message: If you have a right to tell other people what to do with their money, then other people have a right to tell you what to do with yours.

Notice how there's no comparison there whatsoever. Got it now? Good.

Haha nice job manocad. Obviously twisting words in your favor.

More like
Me:The NBA is a huge business yet there only donating 1 million. It seems like a low amount when families are sleeping outside and people are still trapped. They should have no problem giving money in these kind of situations, its because of the people that these guys make millions
You: Why are you being critcal of the NBA? i dont see you donating 1 million.
Me: Your comparing my salary to the NBA?
You:Its not my fault you dont take care of your business properly, maybe you should ask for the money back that you spent on school and send it to haiti.
Me: The nba is filled with people in private jets and huge mansions. You dont think they can afford to donate more then 1 million?
You: stop being judgemental

[Flash3]

^Again, just because that's what they have, why do they NEED to do something?

You still haven't explained that, yet you CONTINUE to criticize in that manner.

[TheDunc]

^Again, just because that's what they have, why do they NEED to do something?

You still haven't explained that, yet you CONTINUE to criticize in that manner.

Apparently you dont watch CNN much eh? the nba's main motto seems to be about charity so in moments like these its nice to be generous. Thats why i think they should be contributing more, im not in a position to be donating 1 million dollars myself, sorry. But the nba can afford to, if all the players chipped in 50 000$ each then that could go a long way in Haiti. Lets be honest guys, athletes make alot more money then they should be making compared to police men, teachers,etc. So is it too much to ask that in a moment of need they be a little generous and give back to the people?