ECQF | P2 (2) Toronto Raptors vs (7) Orlando Magic

PD28 · Post #1401 » by **PD28** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:20 pm

Ramed Nazored wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:
TheAlchemist wrote:Here's what I got from Orlando:

Got some really good pieces in: Aaron Gordon, Fournier, Ross, and a nice supporting cast w/ defensive guys like Isaac and Augustine.

What they need to do: keep building on accumulated talent. Vuc should of been traded at the deadline, he just has mental midget issues and he should've net them a 1st.

Don't know the cap situation they got, but they need to try to sign a Tobias Harris type of wing that can do both shooting and ball handling.

They also need to upgrade their point guard and really really should be gunning for Kemba. Like throw everything you can at him.

A Kemba and a scoring wing later and you have a top 4 team in the east.

Priority in the summer is to make Moe Bamba the best center since Embiid. He needs to be known more then just a song and out back dunks. They need to teach him post offence, shooting, and he needs to grind to work on 2-3 go to moves. The franchise needs a all star center and Vuc is garbage and one dimensional. Develop Bamba at all costs.

Second, Aaron Gordon needs to work on his shooting. If he comes back next year with a solid shooting touch, he can live up this contract. Right now he's way way overpaid but clearly the guy with the most potential outside of Bamba.

A lineup of let's say:

Bamba
Gordon
Ross
Forunier
FA Point guard

Would be very very dangerous if they all play up their potential.

glad your not magic gm...whats raptors doing ? blow whole thing up? once kl walks only good player left under 30 any good is siakam

What a strange, bitter response to a genuinely thoughtful post.

They've had 3 posters that trolled a crap ton after game 1 and have gone pretty MIA since game 2. I agree with some of their fans though, these posters only come to the GB and not their actual team forum cause its harder to troll your on team lol

John Murdoch · Post #1402 » by **John Murdoch** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:05 pm

Still not sure what Orlando's core is? Vuce might not re-sign, Augestein is more like a backup vet . Isaac, Gordon, Bamba 3 bigs as your core?

Ramed Nazored · Post #1403 » by **Ramed Nazored** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:28 pm

PD28 wrote:
Ramed Nazored wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:glad your not magic gm...whats raptors doing ? blow whole thing up? once kl walks only good player left under 30 any good is siakam

What a strange, bitter response to a genuinely thoughtful post.

They've had 3 posters that trolled a crap ton after game 1 and have gone pretty MIA since game 2. I agree with some of their fans though, these posters only come to the GB and not their actual team forum cause its harder to troll your on team lol

Yup, it's obvious that it's just a small coterie of trolls from either fan base who poison the well of good will for us all. The bulk of ORL fans have all been reasonable, well considered people here to discuss basketball and support their team.

PD28 · Post #1404 » by **PD28** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:31 pm

John Murdoch wrote:Still not sure what Orlando's core is? Vuce might not re-sign, Augestein is more like a backup vet . Isaac, Gordon, Bamba 3 bigs as your core?

Gordon has been a revelation this series, I had no idea he had this much shooting ability. I think he can be a great second option, Isaac strikes me as siakam-lite but could be a better 3 pt shooter. I have no opinion on Bamba yet but if they could sign a star PG they could really make some noise.

Mamba Mentality · Post #1405 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:54 pm

PD28 wrote:
John Murdoch wrote:Still not sure what Orlando's core is? Vuce might not re-sign, Augestein is more like a backup vet . Isaac, Gordon, Bamba 3 bigs as your core?

Gordon has been a revelation this series, I had no idea he had this much shooting ability. I think he can be a great second option, Isaac strikes me as siakam-lite but could be a better 3 pt shooter. I have no opinion on Bamba yet but if they could sign a star PG they could really make some noise.

Man, if only Fultz turns out to be the guy he was expected to be...Orlando might have something special. I was also a proponent of a trade for Conley prior to acquiring Fultz, he would have fit like a glove on this team. Maybe Fournier, Mozgov (expiring next year), and picks?

PD28 · Post #1406 » by **PD28** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:37 pm

The Regime wrote:
PD28 wrote:
John Murdoch wrote:Still not sure what Orlando's core is? Vuce might not re-sign, Augestein is more like a backup vet . Isaac, Gordon, Bamba 3 bigs as your core?

Gordon has been a revelation this series, I had no idea he had this much shooting ability. I think he can be a great second option, Isaac strikes me as siakam-lite but could be a better 3 pt shooter. I have no opinion on Bamba yet but if they could sign a star PG they could really make some noise.

Man, if only Fultz turns out to be the guy he was expected to be...Orlando might have something special. I was also a proponent of a trade for Conley prior to acquiring Fultz, he would have fit like a glove on this team. Maybe Fournier, Mozgov (expiring next year), and picks?

I think that trade works but I don't know if Conley fits their timeline as a franchise. They need a PG in their prime from 2021 - 2026. They need time for Bamba, Gordon, Isaac, and whoever they draft this year. Maybe Terry Rozier for cheap this summer?

PhilBlackson · Post #1407 » by **PhilBlackson** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:47 pm

PD28 wrote:
The Regime wrote:
PD28 wrote:
Gordon has been a revelation this series, I had no idea he had this much shooting ability. I think he can be a great second option, Isaac strikes me as siakam-lite but could be a better 3 pt shooter. I have no opinion on Bamba yet but if they could sign a star PG they could really make some noise.

Man, if only Fultz turns out to be the guy he was expected to be...Orlando might have something special. I was also a proponent of a trade for Conley prior to acquiring Fultz, he would have fit like a glove on this team. Maybe Fournier, Mozgov (expiring next year), and picks?

I think that trade works but I don't know if Conley fits their timeline as a franchise. They need a PG in their prime from 2021 - 2026. They need time for Bamba, Gordon, Isaac, and whoever they draft this year. Maybe Terry Rozier for cheap this summer?

I know he's bit of a combo guard and the Pelicans might try to turn things around but ideally I actually like Jrue Holiday for them. They would be a heck of a defensive squad.

Really what their team is missing is another dynamic scorer from either PG or SG which is why a healthy 100% Fultz would almost work out perfectly but I just have such little faith in him at this point. I'm sure ORL is going to give him a chance first before trading for a PG.

orlando_joe · Post #1408 » by **orlando_joe** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:57 pm

PD28 wrote:
Ramed Nazored wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:glad your not magic gm...whats raptors doing ? blow whole thing up? once kl walks only good player left under 30 any good is siakam

What a strange, bitter response to a genuinely thoughtful post.

They've had 3 posters that trolled a crap ton after game 1 and have gone pretty MIA since game 2. I agree with some of their fans though, these posters only come to the GB and not their actual team forum cause its harder to troll your on team lol

reason to not be magic gm
calling magic player names not cool..calling vuc mental midget then Gasol is bad defender and never double him..cant have it both ways and we all know he is getting doubled with fouls not being called..lol
having said that magic shooters need to make shots ..and they are not ..there starters have no playoff exp..including vuc..most players not all when doubled in first taste of playoffs from better team do not do well
what team offered first for vuc?? only offers I saw were for 2nd rd and bad money?
fighting for and making playoffs was much better for young players
Isaac needs to be in starting lineup
ross is six man at best
Gordon not overpaid at all glad magic gm paid him
you think dj is a defence guy?
magic have no money to sign kemba or harris you have to think smaller or trade not big fa sign answer..but if could would lean more dlo then kemba
what happens to raptors if kl walks ? do you have other players worth keeping then siakam if he does ?
do they keep green?
do they keep Gasol?
do they keep serge?
do they keep lowrey?
or blow it up?
I think all fair ?
not sure why you say troll? crawl under bridge?
magic made playoffs on game 81..lol..raptors 2nd best record..yet the talk from a lot of raptors fans is just crazy ! and degrading!
but I am the troll? ok

orlando_joe · Post #1409 » by **orlando_joe** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:58 pm

Ramed Nazored wrote:
PD28 wrote:
Ramed Nazored wrote:
What a strange, bitter response to a genuinely thoughtful post.

They've had 3 posters that trolled a crap ton after game 1 and have gone pretty MIA since game 2. I agree with some of their fans though, these posters only come to the GB and not their actual team forum cause its harder to troll your on team lol

Yup, it's obvious that it's just a small coterie of trolls from either fan base who poison the well of good will for us all. The bulk of ORL fans have all been reasonable, well considered people here to discuss basketball and support their team.

reason to not be magic gm
calling magic player names not cool..calling vuc mental midget then Gasol is bad defender and never double him..cant have it both ways and we all know he is getting doubled with fouls not being called..lol
having said that magic shooters need to make shots ..and they are not ..there starters have no playoff exp..including vuc..most players not all when doubled in first taste of playoffs from better team do not do well
what team offered first for vuc?? only offers I saw were for 2nd rd and bad money?
fighting for and making playoffs was much better for young players
Isaac needs to be in starting lineup
ross is six man at best
Gordon not overpaid at all glad magic gm paid him
you think dj is a defence guy?
magic have no money to sign kemba or harris you have to think smaller or trade not big fa sign answer..but if could would lean more dlo then kemba
what happens to raptors if kl walks ? do you have other players worth keeping then siakam if he does ?
do they keep green?
do they keep Gasol?
do they keep serge?
do they keep lowrey?
or blow it up?
I think all fair ?
not sure why you say troll? crawl under bridge?
magic made playoffs on game 81..lol..raptors 2nd best record..yet the talk from a lot of raptors fans is just crazy ! and degrading!
but I am the troll? ok

Knock it off with your trolling.

PD28 · Post #1410 » by **PD28** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:00 pm

orlando_joe wrote:
PD28 wrote:
Ramed Nazored wrote:
What a strange, bitter response to a genuinely thoughtful post.

They've had 3 posters that trolled a crap ton after game 1 and have gone pretty MIA since game 2. I agree with some of their fans though, these posters only come to the GB and not their actual team forum cause its harder to troll your on team lol

reason to not be magic gm
calling magic player names not cool..calling vuc mental midget then Gasol is bad defender and never double him..cant have it both ways and we all know he is getting doubled with fouls not being called..lol
having said that magic shooters need to make shots ..and they are not ..there starters have no playoff exp..including vuc..most players not all when doubled in first taste of playoffs from better team do not do well
what team offered first for vuc?? only offers I saw were for 2nd rd and bad money?
fighting for and making playoffs was much better for young players
Isaac needs to be in starting lineup
ross is six man at best
Gordon not overpaid at all glad magic gm paid him
you think dj is a defence guy?
magic have no money to sign kemba or harris you have to think smaller or trade not big fa sign answer..but if could would lean more dlo then kemba
what happens to raptors if kl walks ? do you have other players worth keeping then siakam if he does ?
do they keep green?
do they keep Gasol?
do they keep serge?
do they keep lowrey?
or blow it up?
I think all fair ?
not sure why you say troll? crawl under bridge?
magic made playoffs on game 81..lol..raptors 2nd best record..yet the talk from a lot of raptors fans is just crazy ! and degrading!
but I am the troll? ok

If you can't contribute to the conversation just don't. I can see you are having a mental breakdown starting from game 2, we've all been there don't worry.

orlando_joe · Post #1411 » by **orlando_joe** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:05 pm

PD28 wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:
PD28 wrote:
They've had 3 posters that trolled a crap ton after game 1 and have gone pretty MIA since game 2. I agree with some of their fans though, these posters only come to the GB and not their actual team forum cause its harder to troll your on team lol

reason to not be magic gm
calling magic player names not cool..calling vuc mental midget then Gasol is bad defender and never double him..cant have it both ways and we all know he is getting doubled with fouls not being called..lol
having said that magic shooters need to make shots ..and they are not ..there starters have no playoff exp..including vuc..most players not all when doubled in first taste of playoffs from better team do not do well
what team offered first for vuc?? only offers I saw were for 2nd rd and bad money?
fighting for and making playoffs was much better for young players
Isaac needs to be in starting lineup
ross is six man at best
Gordon not overpaid at all glad magic gm paid him
you think dj is a defence guy?
magic have no money to sign kemba or harris you have to think smaller or trade not big fa sign answer..but if could would lean more dlo then kemba
what happens to raptors if kl walks ? do you have other players worth keeping then siakam if he does ?
do they keep green?
do they keep Gasol?
do they keep serge?
do they keep lowrey?
or blow it up?
I think all fair ?
not sure why you say troll? crawl under bridge?
magic made playoffs on game 81..lol..raptors 2nd best record..yet the talk from a lot of raptors fans is just crazy ! and degrading!
but I am the troll? ok

If you can't contribute to the conversation just don't. I can see you are having a mental breakdown starting from game 2, we've all been there don't worry.

yea that's not being a troll...your post is more of a troll :banghead:

PD28 · Post #1412 » by **PD28** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:07 pm

orlando_joe wrote:
PD28 wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:
reason to not be magic gm
calling magic player names not cool..calling vuc mental midget then Gasol is bad defender and never double him..cant have it both ways and we all know he is getting doubled with fouls not being called..lol
having said that magic shooters need to make shots ..and they are not ..there starters have no playoff exp..including vuc..most players not all when doubled in first taste of playoffs from better team do not do well
what team offered first for vuc?? only offers I saw were for 2nd rd and bad money?
fighting for and making playoffs was much better for young players
Isaac needs to be in starting lineup
ross is six man at best
Gordon not overpaid at all glad magic gm paid him
you think dj is a defence guy?
magic have no money to sign kemba or harris you have to think smaller or trade not big fa sign answer..but if could would lean more dlo then kemba
what happens to raptors if kl walks ? do you have other players worth keeping then siakam if he does ?
do they keep green?
do they keep Gasol?
do they keep serge?
do they keep lowrey?
or blow it up?
I think all fair ?
not sure why you say troll? crawl under bridge?
magic made playoffs on game 81..lol..raptors 2nd best record..yet the talk from a lot of raptors fans is just crazy ! and degrading!
but I am the troll? ok

If you can't contribute to the conversation just don't. I can see you are having a mental breakdown starting from game 2, we've all been there don't worry.

yea that's not being a troll...your post is more of a troll

If we were to go through the thread and see which of us "trolled" more, I'm sure we know who would lose. Your own Mod said you troll here instead of posting in the team forum - case closed. Enjoy the game tonight!

John Murdoch · Post #1413 » by **John Murdoch** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:24 pm

PD28 wrote:
The Regime wrote:
PD28 wrote:
Gordon has been a revelation this series, I had no idea he had this much shooting ability. I think he can be a great second option, Isaac strikes me as siakam-lite but could be a better 3 pt shooter. I have no opinion on Bamba yet but if they could sign a star PG they could really make some noise.

Man, if only Fultz turns out to be the guy he was expected to be...Orlando might have something special. I was also a proponent of a trade for Conley prior to acquiring Fultz, he would have fit like a glove on this team. Maybe Fournier, Mozgov (expiring next year), and picks?

I think that trade works but I don't know if Conley fits their timeline as a franchise. They need a PG in their prime from 2021 - 2026. They need time for Bamba, Gordon, Isaac, and whoever they draft this year. Maybe Terry Rozier for cheap this summer?

I like Rozier. This board is kinda split on him tho . At the very least he turns into a better version of what Reggie Jackson is now

Ramed Nazored · Post #1414 » by **Ramed Nazored** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:38 pm

orlando_joe wrote:
Ramed Nazored wrote:
PD28 wrote:
They've had 3 posters that trolled a crap ton after game 1 and have gone pretty MIA since game 2. I agree with some of their fans though, these posters only come to the GB and not their actual team forum cause its harder to troll your on team lol

Yup, it's obvious that it's just a small coterie of trolls from either fan base who poison the well of good will for us all. The bulk of ORL fans have all been reasonable, well considered people here to discuss basketball and support their team.

reason to not be magic gm
calling magic player names not cool..calling vuc mental midget then Gasol is bad defender and never double him..cant have it both ways and we all know he is getting doubled with fouls not being called..lol
having said that magic shooters need to make shots ..and they are not ..there starters have no playoff exp..including vuc..most players not all when doubled in first taste of playoffs from better team do not do well
what team offered first for vuc?? only offers I saw were for 2nd rd and bad money?
fighting for and making playoffs was much better for young players
Isaac needs to be in starting lineup
ross is six man at best
Gordon not overpaid at all glad magic gm paid him
you think dj is a defence guy?
magic have no money to sign kemba or harris you have to think smaller or trade not big fa sign answer..but if could would lean more dlo then kemba
what happens to raptors if kl walks ? do you have other players worth keeping then siakam if he does ?
do they keep green?
do they keep Gasol?
do they keep serge?
do they keep lowrey?
or blow it up?
I think all fair ?
not sure why you say troll? crawl under bridge?
magic made playoffs on game 81..lol..raptors 2nd best record..yet the talk from a lot of raptors fans is just crazy ! and degrading!
but I am the troll? ok

This is the kind of word salad one would read in madman’s diary.

orlando_joe · Post #1415 » by **orlando_joe** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:47 pm

Ramed Nazored wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:
Ramed Nazored wrote:
Yup, it's obvious that it's just a small coterie of trolls from either fan base who poison the well of good will for us all. The bulk of ORL fans have all been reasonable, well considered people here to discuss basketball and support their team.

reason to not be magic gm
calling magic player names not cool..calling vuc mental midget then Gasol is bad defender and never double him..cant have it both ways and we all know he is getting doubled with fouls not being called..lol
having said that magic shooters need to make shots ..and they are not ..there starters have no playoff exp..including vuc..most players not all when doubled in first taste of playoffs from better team do not do well
what team offered first for vuc?? only offers I saw were for 2nd rd and bad money?
fighting for and making playoffs was much better for young players
Isaac needs to be in starting lineup
ross is six man at best
Gordon not overpaid at all glad magic gm paid him
you think dj is a defence guy?
magic have no money to sign kemba or harris you have to think smaller or trade not big fa sign answer..but if could would lean more dlo then kemba
what happens to raptors if kl walks ? do you have other players worth keeping then siakam if he does ?
do they keep green?
do they keep Gasol?
do they keep serge?
do they keep lowrey?
or blow it up?
I think all fair ?
not sure why you say troll? crawl under bridge?
magic made playoffs on game 81..lol..raptors 2nd best record..yet the talk from a lot of raptors fans is just crazy ! and degrading!
but I am the troll? ok

This is the kind of word salad one would read in madman’s diary.

well being called a madman ...kinda like it..so thank you
and for sure writing not my strong point..lol

orlando_joe · Post #1416 » by **orlando_joe** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:52 pm

PD28 wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:
PD28 wrote:

If you can't contribute to the conversation just don't. I can see you are having a mental breakdown starting from game 2, we've all been there don't worry.

yea that's not being a troll...your post is more of a troll

If we were to go through the thread and see which of us "trolled" more, I'm sure we know who would lose. Your own Mod said you troll here instead of posting in the team forum - case closed. Enjoy the game tonight!

man that hurts

...I will enjoy game ..thank you

binjumper · Post #1417 » by **binjumper** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:01 pm

Well that was awkward. Anyways I see the series ending tonight. Kuddos to Orlando to taking game 1, but they were clearly outmatched.

Clementine64 · Post #1418 » by **Clementine64** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:13 pm

orlando_joe wrote:
Ramed Nazored wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:
reason to not be magic gm
calling magic player names not cool..calling vuc mental midget then Gasol is bad defender and never double him..cant have it both ways and we all know he is getting doubled with fouls not being called..lol
having said that magic shooters need to make shots ..and they are not ..there starters have no playoff exp..including vuc..most players not all when doubled in first taste of playoffs from better team do not do well
what team offered first for vuc?? only offers I saw were for 2nd rd and bad money?
fighting for and making playoffs was much better for young players
Isaac needs to be in starting lineup
ross is six man at best
Gordon not overpaid at all glad magic gm paid him
you think dj is a defence guy?
magic have no money to sign kemba or harris you have to think smaller or trade not big fa sign answer..but if could would lean more dlo then kemba
what happens to raptors if kl walks ? do you have other players worth keeping then siakam if he does ?
do they keep green?
do they keep Gasol?
do they keep serge?
do they keep lowrey?
or blow it up?
I think all fair ?
not sure why you say troll? crawl under bridge?
magic made playoffs on game 81..lol..raptors 2nd best record..yet the talk from a lot of raptors fans is just crazy ! and degrading!
but I am the troll? ok

This is the kind of word salad one would read in madman’s diary.

well being called a madman ...kinda like it..so thank you
and for sure writing not my strong point..lol

Poor Joe....being called a "madman" aka a looney tune is not a compliment. Magic fans that thought they had a chance in a tightly contested series were living in a fantasy world. This Toronto team is far superior in every way evidenced by the 2 of 4 games they blew the Magic out of the water. Call it cocky, I call it confidence. This team is going to give the number 1 seeded Bucks a run for their money in the ECF. That will be an epic match-up.

orlando_joe · Post #1419 » by **orlando_joe** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:15 pm

Clementine64 wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:
Ramed Nazored wrote:
This is the kind of word salad one would read in madman’s diary.

well being called a madman ...kinda like it..so thank you
and for sure writing not my strong point..lol

Poor Joe....being called a "madman" aka a looney tune is not a compliment. Magic fans that thought they had a chance in a tightly contested series were living in a fantasy world. This Toronto team is far superior in every way evidenced by the 2 of 4 games they blew the Magic out of the water. Call it cocky, I call it confidence. This team is going to give the number 1 seeded Bucks a run for their money in the ECF. That will be an epic match-up.

oh man was not meant as compliment? but I am big ozzy fan and diary of a madman is awesome album....magic fans thought they had chance...ok :noway:

ORL_on_FIRE · Post #1420 » by **ORL_on_FIRE** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:00 pm

Give AG the ball and let him create.

Who wins the series?