Tatum VS Luka

prejt · Post #1401 » by **prejt** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:12 am

Swap Tatum w/ Luka and the Celtics are champions tonight.

zonedefense · Post #1402 » by **zonedefense** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:13 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:
agentofatlas wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
Why? He made the Finals.

Devin Booker made the finals last year. Doesn't make him a better player than say Tatum or anyone else. When making the finals become a talking point to compare players, that's when you know the guy has nothing to go on.

Booker and Tatum have Finals stage performances to compare. We can't knock Tatum for his Final stage performance when Luka has never even made it that far. It's impossible to turn it into a negative for Tatum when Luka hasn't even qualified to enter the comparison. Luka is a non qualifier, he's ineligible.

Luka played against the same team. Against the same primary defender. And one of them played a lot better. Easy to compare.

CobraCommander · Post #1403 » by **CobraCommander** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:14 am

Two things they can both say is In unison is that Wiggins locked Dey azz UP and Curry beatemdown- doesn’t matter what you think - neither of these guys ready yet....but they 23 and 24...they got a lot of work to do- they both could be playing for the ring as early as next year!

SelfishPlayer · Post #1404 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:15 am

zonedefense wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
agentofatlas wrote:
Devin Booker made the finals last year. Doesn't make him a better player than say Tatum or anyone else. When making the finals become a talking point to compare players, that's when you know the guy has nothing to go on.

Booker and Tatum have Finals stage performances to compare. We can't knock Tatum for his Final stage performance when Luka has never even made it that far. It's impossible to turn it into a negative for Tatum when Luka hasn't even qualified to enter the comparison. Luka is a non qualifier, he's ineligible.

Luka played against the same team. Against the same primary defender. And one of them played a lot better. Easy to compare.

Cool, go ahead

GOATTatum · Post #1405 » by **GOATTatum** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:15 am

prejt wrote:Swap Tatum w/ Luka and the Celtics are champions tonight.

Cap, swap Tatum with Luka and the Celts don’t even make it to the Finals.

CobraCommander · Post #1406 » by **CobraCommander** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:16 am

prejt wrote:Swap Tatum w/ Luka and the Celtics are champions tonight.

Swap Tatum for Luka and they not in the finals...so it can go either way. Luka had his chance at GSW and got beat in 5 and Tatum in 6.

agentofatlas · Post #1407 » by **agentofatlas** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:17 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:
agentofatlas wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
Why? He made the Finals.

Devin Booker made the finals last year. Doesn't make him a better player than say Tatum or anyone else. When making the finals become a talking point to compare players, that's when you know the guy has nothing to go on.

Booker and Tatum have Finals stage performances to compare. We can't knock Tatum for his Final stage performance when Luka has never even made it that far. It's impossible to turn it into a negative for Tatum when Luka hasn't even qualified to enter the comparison. Luka is a non qualifier, he's ineligible.

Yeah right it's not like Luka and Tatum faced the same team in the playoffs. What an answer.

Anyways I'm going to play along. So in your book, Booker is better than Tatum. He shot and scored way better than Tatum in the finals. It wasn't even close.

The truth is your just grasping at straws at this point. For all the talk about Tatum being a 2 way guy he was largely invisible on one side of the ball (offensively, where his own coach said they needed to be better) and his vaunted defensive prowess meant jack when he couldn't even guard the opposing teams best player.

Ambrose · Post #1408 » by **Ambrose** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:17 am

CobraCommander wrote:
prejt wrote:Swap Tatum w/ Luka and the Celtics are champions tonight.

Swap Tatum for Luka and they not in the finals...so it can go either way. Luka had his chance at GSW and got beat in 5 and Tatum in 6.

CobraCommander · Post #1409 » by **CobraCommander** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:17 am

GOATTatum wrote:
prejt wrote:Swap Tatum w/ Luka and the Celtics are champions tonight.

Cap, swap Tatum with Luka and the Celts don’t even make it to the Finals.

Exactly - people acting like the Celtics had this monster team and Tatum held them back....Celtics got a good young core that people were saying should have been broken up earlier this year....

Tatum just as young as Luka and got his team to finals...Celtics and Dallas in good shape

CobraCommander · Post #1410 » by **CobraCommander** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:19 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:
zonedefense wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
Booker and Tatum have Finals stage performances to compare. We can't knock Tatum for his Final stage performance when Luka has never even made it that far. It's impossible to turn it into a negative for Tatum when Luka hasn't even qualified to enter the comparison. Luka is a non qualifier, he's ineligible.

Luka played against the same team. Against the same primary defender. And one of them played a lot better. Easy to compare.

Cool, go ahead

But didn’t Luka go 3-13 in that final game from 3 and get bounced on one his worse nights as a pro? Come on Luka got the good ole gentlemen’s sweep...they both not ready for Wiggins -

The real thread should be - “who wants to see Wiggins picking them up at 95 ft?”

SelfishPlayer · Post #1411 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:23 am

agentofatlas wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
agentofatlas wrote:
Devin Booker made the finals last year. Doesn't make him a better player than say Tatum or anyone else. When making the finals become a talking point to compare players, that's when you know the guy has nothing to go on.

Booker and Tatum have Finals stage performances to compare. We can't knock Tatum for his Final stage performance when Luka has never even made it that far. It's impossible to turn it into a negative for Tatum when Luka hasn't even qualified to enter the comparison. Luka is a non qualifier, he's ineligible.

Yeah right it's not like Luka and Tatum faced the same team in the playoffs. What an answer.

Anyways I'm going to play along. So in your book, Booker is better than Tatum. He shot and scored way better than Tatum in the finals. It wasn't even close.

The truth is your just grasping at straws at this point. For all the talk about Tatum being a 2 way guy he was largely invisible on one side of the ball (offensively, where his own coach said they needed to be better) and his vaunted defensive prowess meant jack when he couldn't even guard the opposing teams best player.

Finals?

SelfishPlayer · Post #1412 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:24 am

The pole was closer before the Finals. How?

agentofatlas · Post #1413 » by **agentofatlas** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:24 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:
agentofatlas wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
Booker and Tatum have Finals stage performances to compare. We can't knock Tatum for his Final stage performance when Luka has never even made it that far. It's impossible to turn it into a negative for Tatum when Luka hasn't even qualified to enter the comparison. Luka is a non qualifier, he's ineligible.

Yeah right it's not like Luka and Tatum faced the same team in the playoffs. What an answer.

Anyways I'm going to play along. So in your book, Booker is better than Tatum. He shot and scored way better than Tatum in the finals. It wasn't even close.

The truth is your just grasping at straws at this point. For all the talk about Tatum being a 2 way guy he was largely invisible on one side of the ball (offensively, where his own coach said they needed to be better) and his vaunted defensive prowess meant jack when he couldn't even guard the opposing teams best player.

Finals?

Yes dude. Booker shot better and scored better in the finals than Tatum.

zonedefense · Post #1414 » by **zonedefense** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:25 am

CobraCommander wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
zonedefense wrote:
Luka played against the same team. Against the same primary defender. And one of them played a lot better. Easy to compare.

Cool, go ahead

But didn’t Luka go 3-13 in that final game from 3 and get bounced on one his worse nights as a pro? Come on Luka got the good ole gentlemen’s sweep...they both not ready for Wiggins -

The real thread should be - “who wants to see Wiggins picking them up at 95 ft?”

People that haven´t doubled down on a bad take for months can see a difference between 32ppg on 56% TS and 22ppg on 48% TS.
But carry on. It is hilarious to see the mental gymnastics and I am amazed by the rhetorical master class.

pingpongrac · Post #1415 » by **pingpongrac** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:25 am

CobraCommander wrote:
GOATTatum wrote:
prejt wrote:Swap Tatum w/ Luka and the Celtics are champions tonight.

Cap, swap Tatum with Luka and the Celts don’t even make it to the Finals.

Exactly - people acting like the Celtics had this monster team and Tatum held them back....Celtics got a good young core that people were saying should have been broken up earlier this year....

Tatum just as young as Luka and got his team to finals...Celtics and Dallas in good shape

Please. For the last 5 months, all we've heard is the Celtics have an historic defence and they're loaded with talent. Brown+Smart+Horford with both Grant and Robert Williams as well as White is a far superior supporting cast than what Luka was working with.

If you put Luka on the Celtics in Tatum's place, they would have likely beat the Warriors in 5. Heck, if Tatum didn't choke in the 4th quarter of basically every Finals game, the Celtics could have won in 5.

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SelfishPlayer · Post #1416 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:30 am

pingpongrac wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
GOATTatum wrote:
Cap, swap Tatum with Luka and the Celts don’t even make it to the Finals.

Exactly - people acting like the Celtics had this monster team and Tatum held them back....Celtics got a good young core that people were saying should have been broken up earlier this year....

Tatum just as young as Luka and got his team to finals...Celtics and Dallas in good shape

Please. For the last 5 months, all we've heard is the Celtics have an historic defence and they're loaded with talent. Brown+Smart+Horford with both Grant and Robert Williams as well as White is a far superior supporting cast than what Luka was working with.

If you put Luka on the Celtics in Tatum's place, they would have likely beat the Warriors in 5. Heck, if Tatum didn't choke in the 4th quarter of basically every Finals game, the Celtics could have won in 5.

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Why wouldn't a poor perimeter defender in Luka not destroy Boston's team identity? They have long athletes all over the place playing defense. Why wouldn't Luka be the antithesis to what they have built in Boston?

CobraCommander · Post #1417 » by **CobraCommander** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:31 am

pingpongrac wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
GOATTatum wrote:
Cap, swap Tatum with Luka and the Celts don’t even make it to the Finals.

Exactly - people acting like the Celtics had this monster team and Tatum held them back....Celtics got a good young core that people were saying should have been broken up earlier this year....

Tatum just as young as Luka and got his team to finals...Celtics and Dallas in good shape

Please. For the last 5 months, all we've heard is the Celtics have an historic defence and they're loaded with talent. Brown+Smart+Horford with both Grant and Robert Williams as well as White is a far superior supporting cast than what Luka was working with.

If you put Luka on the Celtics in Tatum's place, they would have likely beat the Warriors in 5. Heck, if Tatum didn't choke in the 4th quarter of basically every Finals game, the Celtics could have won in 5.

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I’m logging out this thread homey.

Luka got beat down and Tatum got beat down… neither one of them are as good as curry - and curry ain’t going no where.

I see Luka in the conf finals next year fighting take the next step -

I don’t see why Boston can’t do the same.

At this point tatum and Luka not holding their teams back… they are the guys that Boston and Dallas building around.

Hopefully both guys healthy and back next year!

Have a great night -

signed
Andrew Wiggins
world champion

agentofatlas · Post #1418 » by **agentofatlas** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:35 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:
pingpongrac wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
Exactly - people acting like the Celtics had this monster team and Tatum held them back....Celtics got a good young core that people were saying should have been broken up earlier this year....

Tatum just as young as Luka and got his team to finals...Celtics and Dallas in good shape

Please. For the last 5 months, all we've heard is the Celtics have an historic defence and they're loaded with talent. Brown+Smart+Horford with both Grant and Robert Williams as well as White is a far superior supporting cast than what Luka was working with.

If you put Luka on the Celtics in Tatum's place, they would have likely beat the Warriors in 5. Heck, if Tatum didn't choke in the 4th quarter of basically every Finals game, the Celtics could have won in 5.

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Why wouldn't a poor perimeter defender in Luka not destroy Boston's team identity? They long athletes all over the place playing defense. Why wouldn't Luka be the antithesis to what they have built in Boston?

Why would it? A great offensive player surrounded by great defensive talent with a solid number 2 option has always been a winning formula in basketball.

In fact that's the ideal environment for Luka imo. A team with length and athleticism.

DroseReturnChi · Post #1419 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:35 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:
pingpongrac wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
Exactly - people acting like the Celtics had this monster team and Tatum held them back....Celtics got a good young core that people were saying should have been broken up earlier this year....

Tatum just as young as Luka and got his team to finals...Celtics and Dallas in good shape

Please. For the last 5 months, all we've heard is the Celtics have an historic defence and they're loaded with talent. Brown+Smart+Horford with both Grant and Robert Williams as well as White is a far superior supporting cast than what Luka was working with.

If you put Luka on the Celtics in Tatum's place, they would have likely beat the Warriors in 5. Heck, if Tatum didn't choke in the 4th quarter of basically every Finals game, the Celtics could have won in 5.

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Why wouldn't a poor perimeter defender in Luka not destroy Boston's team identity? They long athletes all over the place playing defense. Why wouldn't Luka be the antithesis to what they have built in Boston?

One player doesnt destroy identity. Boston was already all time without tatum. Tatums literally the weakest link.

SelfishPlayer · Post #1420 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:40 am

agentofatlas wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
pingpongrac wrote:
Please. For the last 5 months, all we've heard is the Celtics have an historic defence and they're loaded with talent. Brown+Smart+Horford with both Grant and Robert Williams as well as White is a far superior supporting cast than what Luka was working with.

If you put Luka on the Celtics in Tatum's place, they would have likely beat the Warriors in 5. Heck, if Tatum didn't choke in the 4th quarter of basically every Finals game, the Celtics could have won in 5.

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Why wouldn't a poor perimeter defender in Luka not destroy Boston's team identity? They long athletes all over the place playing defense. Why wouldn't Luka be the antithesis to what they have built in Boston?

Why would it? A great offensive player surrounded by great defensive talent with a solid number 2 option has always been a winning formula in basketball.

In fact that's the ideal environment for Luka imo. A team with length and athleticism.

Luka fans projecting him in Boston totally destroying their defensive identity.

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