MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened

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Who is your pick for the 2019-20 MVP?

Antetokounmpo
253
51%
James
53
11%
Walker
4
1%
Doncic
117
24%
Harden
27
5%
Siakam
12
2%
Jokic
4
1%
Leonard
5
1%
Davis
17
3%
Towns
5
1%
 
Total votes: 497

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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened 

Post#1421 » by GSP » Sat Dec 7, 2019 5:27 am

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Osirus89 wrote:Giannis is going to win the award. His team is great AND he is having a better individual season than any of the other candidates.

Giannis has a better case for unanimous MVP than Curry did in his campaign and that's saying something.

Wow, slow down there buddy

Curry’s season was insane, plus 73 wins


No teammate Giannis has on the Bucks is close to 16 Draymond and 16 Klay is better than every teammate as well.

Iggy off the bench is better than any bench player they have too.
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened 

Post#1422 » by GSP » Sat Dec 7, 2019 5:30 am

Honestly have no idea when the Bucks are gonna lose.

Would anyone be surprised if they won 30 straight? Bud is about as good as it gets in the regular season as far as coaching

Giannis could def lock up Mvp by the end of the month tho. The Mavs/Lakers games especially are gonna be huge games for the narrative
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened 

Post#1423 » by LikeABosh » Sat Dec 7, 2019 5:34 am

Still a lot of season left, but it's hard not to see Giannis not winning it. Wins matter too much to the voters
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Post#1424 » by RoundMoundOfReb » Sat Dec 7, 2019 5:37 am

Giannis has a healthy lead for me. Unless the Lakers do something incredible, like win 70, I can't see LeBron getting it simply because AD is a top 5-7 candidate himself.
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened 

Post#1425 » by Dupp » Sat Dec 7, 2019 5:50 am

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Dupp wrote:Yeah Giannis is insane. Just spanked the clips. Dude is well out in front


He was good against the Clips but not really dominant. They murked the Clips in the non-Giannis minutes, the bench especially



Still the best player and defender on the court. That and they spanked another contender. That leaves an impression on voters.
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened 

Post#1426 » by Patches Perry » Sat Dec 7, 2019 7:07 am

Giannis by 5 miles at this point, but remember how important the final month or two are in MVP races. Still way too early to call it.
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened 

Post#1427 » by asdfgh » Sat Dec 7, 2019 7:31 am

1. Antetokounmpo
2. Doncic
3. Harden
4. James/Davis
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Post#1428 » by JN61 » Sat Dec 7, 2019 11:31 am

asdfgh wrote:1. Antetokounmpo
2. Doncic
3. Harden
4. James/Davis

With about 1/4 season done I feel like this is first reasonable spot to look into MVP discussion. You made exactly same list that I would have. Very much Giannis And Doncic leading the charge, ahead of the competition.
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Post#1429 » by Ballerhogger » Sat Dec 7, 2019 2:18 pm

AD is making his case for MVP should win the DPOY . Giannis looks like favorite right now
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened 

Post#1430 » by LikeABosh » Sat Dec 7, 2019 2:24 pm

GSP wrote:
Vsauce12 wrote:
Osirus89 wrote:Giannis is going to win the award. His team is great AND he is having a better individual season than any of the other candidates.

Giannis has a better case for unanimous MVP than Curry did in his campaign and that's saying something.

Wow, slow down there buddy

Curry’s season was insane, plus 73 wins


No teammate Giannis has on the Bucks is close to 16 Draymond and 16 Klay is better than every teammate as well.

Iggy off the bench is better than any bench player they have too.


But the MVP competition is much tougher this year imo
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Post#1431 » by Archx » Sat Dec 7, 2019 3:11 pm

Damn, Harden played a lot of minutes already.

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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened 

Post#1432 » by freethedevil » Sat Dec 7, 2019 4:03 pm

Ballerhogger wrote:AD is making his case for MVP should win the DPOY . Giannis looks like favorite right now

Given his defensive impact hasn't been close to Gobert's or GIannis's, and the lakers are not on the level of the buck's defense, that's a dubious claim.
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Post#1433 » by Colbinii » Sat Dec 7, 2019 4:30 pm

freethedevil wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:AD is making his case for MVP should win the DPOY . Giannis looks like favorite right now

Given his defensive impact hasn't been close to Gobert's or GIannis's, and the lakers are not on the level of the buck's defense, that's a dubious claim.

The teams are separated by 0.8 Drtg...

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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened 

Post#1434 » by Ballerhogger » Sat Dec 7, 2019 5:11 pm

freethedevil wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:AD is making his case for MVP should win the DPOY . Giannis looks like favorite right now

Given his defensive impact hasn't been close to Gobert's or GIannis's, and the lakers are not on the level of the buck's defense, that's a dubious claim.

Did you watch the lakers and jazz games this year ?
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened 

Post#1435 » by Vsauce12 » Sat Dec 7, 2019 6:20 pm

Ballerhogger wrote:
freethedevil wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:AD is making his case for MVP should win the DPOY . Giannis looks like favorite right now

Given his defensive impact hasn't been close to Gobert's or GIannis's, and the lakers are not on the level of the buck's defense, that's a dubious claim.

Did you watch the lakers and jazz games this year ?

Have you watched any bucks games this year? There’s a reason why Giannis defensive advanced stats are>>>>ADs

AD isn’t DPOY but he’s probably going to win because he’s a laker
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Post#1436 » by HeatIn5 » Sat Dec 7, 2019 7:30 pm

I know he may not win, but asking again for Jimmy Butler to be added.

His VALUE to the Heat should be unquestioned.
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened 

Post#1437 » by freethedevil » Sat Dec 7, 2019 10:35 pm

Ballerhogger wrote:
freethedevil wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:AD is making his case for MVP should win the DPOY . Giannis looks like favorite right now

Given his defensive impact hasn't been close to Gobert's or GIannis's, and the lakers are not on the level of the buck's defense, that's a dubious claim.

Did you watch the lakers and jazz games this year ?

Yes. Gobert protects the paint vastly more. Giannis protects the rim nearly as much as Giannis and is vastly more useful in the perimeter


Coinciidentally, metrics consisitently have both of them well ahead defensively.

But AD plays in la so I guess it should be him. :roll:
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Post#1438 » by Barnzy » Sat Dec 7, 2019 10:43 pm

JustiseForMiami wrote:I know he may not win, but asking again for Jimmy Butler to be added.

His VALUE to the Heat should be unquestioned.


Butler is not even in the conversation.
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened 

Post#1439 » by Wagonband » Sat Dec 7, 2019 10:54 pm

Barnzy wrote:
JustiseForMiami wrote:I know he may not win, but asking again for Jimmy Butler to be added.

His VALUE to the Heat should be unquestioned.


Butler is not even in the conversation.


He should be in the "conversation", if the conversation is larger than the clear top 4 - Giannis, Luka, LBJ and Harden. He is the best player on a team that could finish top 2 in the East. That makes him in the "conversation" for sure.

The top 4 are set in stone however, and Giannis is just playing too good atm and the Bucks are crushing it. The only way i see him challenged is if Dallas continues to be like a top 2 seed in the West... If they remain a top 2 seed, then i believe Doncic will be MVP. The narrative will be too good
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened 

Post#1440 » by Fico92 » Sat Dec 7, 2019 11:18 pm

If Giannis/Doncic finish 1/2, will that be first time in MVP history that the winner and runner up are non-Americans?

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