NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 (Fresh poll ➥ Vote)
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3 teams in the East are above .500. By default, nobody in that conference gets consideration for MVP.
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BoatsNZones wrote:3 teams in the East are above .500. By default, nobody in that conference gets consideration for MVP.
So Embiid has no chance? Lol you might want to tell that to the betting markets that as they have Embiid as the front runner
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art_tatum wrote:Still anyone's game. No runaways.
If 76ers stay top seed, embiid probably gets it.
If lakers get back to 2 seed, or even 1st then lebron is a possibility. Same with KL.
If nuggets, blazers, or warriors can get to the 3rd seed that's a stronggggg case for jokic lillard or curry given the supporting cast.
If kd comes back and nets destroy the league, maybe KD.
Only person would be greek freak. He is a top player but voter fatigue is real. He would have to blow away the competition to win.
All agreed except your homer talk, KD is already eliminated from the race because of the games missed, there's no arguing that.
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Top 5 is still
Embiid
Kawhi
Harden
Jokic
Giannis
Embiid
Kawhi
Harden
Jokic
Giannis
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Me being called a bronsexual is definitely funny. I am a Warriors fan and I absolutely cannot stand the guy. Doesn't change the fact that he's a great player.
The fact that he's playing well, is the best player of his team (even though not by much at this point in his career) who are currently a top3 seed automatically has him in the race.
No, I don't think he is playing at the level from a few years ago. And there are definitely players that I would rank higher on an individual level. But they don't check all the 3 points mentioned above.
On top the narrative is strong here. They won the chip last year, LeBron didn't win an MVP in ages. You can really give this storyline the legacy spin.
That being said, if Curry or Jokic can push their teams into 4th or 5th seed, or the Kawhi-Clippers clearly distance the Lakers, the case for LeBron becomes very weak imo. But right now he is absolutely in the race.
And as stated, I believe the separation between candidates is very small right now.
The fact that he's playing well, is the best player of his team (even though not by much at this point in his career) who are currently a top3 seed automatically has him in the race.
No, I don't think he is playing at the level from a few years ago. And there are definitely players that I would rank higher on an individual level. But they don't check all the 3 points mentioned above.
On top the narrative is strong here. They won the chip last year, LeBron didn't win an MVP in ages. You can really give this storyline the legacy spin.
That being said, if Curry or Jokic can push their teams into 4th or 5th seed, or the Kawhi-Clippers clearly distance the Lakers, the case for LeBron becomes very weak imo. But right now he is absolutely in the race.
And as stated, I believe the separation between candidates is very small right now.
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LeBron is definitely still in this thing. We still got some ways to go.
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FinnTheHuman wrote:art_tatum wrote:Still anyone's game. No runaways.
If 76ers stay top seed, embiid probably gets it.
If lakers get back to 2 seed, or even 1st then lebron is a possibility. Same with KL.
If nuggets, blazers, or warriors can get to the 3rd seed that's a stronggggg case for jokic lillard or curry given the supporting cast.
If kd comes back and nets destroy the league, maybe KD. As far as h
Only person would be greek freak. He is a top aplayer but voter fatigue is real. He would have to blow away the competition to win.
All agreed except your homer talk, KD is already eliminated from the race because of the games missed, there's no arguing that.
The only net that has a chance of wining it harden. He is the most important player and the Nets offensive playmaker. He has been their most important player
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Openheimer wrote:FinnTheHuman wrote:art_tatum wrote:Still anyone's game. No runaways.
If 76ers stay top seed, embiid probably gets it.
If lakers get back to 2 seed, or even 1st then lebron is a possibility. Same with KL.
If nuggets, blazers, or warriors can get to the 3rd seed that's a stronggggg case for jokic lillard or curry given the supporting cast.
If kd comes back and nets destroy the league, maybe KD. As far as h
Only person would be greek freak. He is a top aplayer but voter fatigue is real. He would have to blow away the competition to win.
All agreed except your homer talk, KD is already eliminated from the race because of the games missed, there's no arguing that.
The only net that has a chance of wining it harden. He is the most important player and the Nets offensive playmaker. He has been their most important player
Kd might have an argument in narrative if he comes back and they go on a crazy win streak. Unlikely but I can hope.
I did say harden is the most important piece, but mvp no. He is changing his game to pass more a bit to accommodate KI who as a worse player is probably too stubborn to be 3rd scorer. Harden is a better passer so it's the right decision.
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art_tatum wrote:Openheimer wrote:FinnTheHuman wrote:
All agreed except your homer talk, KD is already eliminated from the race because of the games missed, there's no arguing that.
The only net that has a chance of wining it harden. He is the most important player and the Nets offensive playmaker. He has been their most important player
Kd might have an argument in narrative if he comes back and they go on a crazy win streak. Unlikely but I can hope.
I did say harden is the most important piece, but mvp no. He is changing his game to pass more a bit to accommodate KI who as a worse player is probably too stubborn to be 3rd scorer. Harden is a better passer so it's the right decision.
KD won't have an argument because there's no way he makes up for all the missed games. He's missed 16 out of 72 games already, that's 22% of the regular season games missed at least. He's surely gonna miss at least a quarter of the season, so please don't come here arguing for KD mvp once he comes back and starts playing well, you'll just flood the topic with useless posts, because nobody is giving a guy who misses 1/4 of the season the mvp.
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FinnTheHuman wrote:art_tatum wrote:Openheimer wrote:The only net that has a chance of wining it harden. He is the most important player and the Nets offensive playmaker. He has been their most important player
Kd might have an argument in narrative if he comes back and they go on a crazy win streak. Unlikely but I can hope.
I did say harden is the most important piece, but mvp no. He is changing his game to pass more a bit to accommodate KI who as a worse player is probably too stubborn to be 3rd scorer. Harden is a better passer so it's the right decision.
KD won't have an argument because there's no way he makes up for all the missed games. He's missed 16 out of 72 games already, that's 22% of games missed at least. Please don't come here arguing for KD mvp once he comes back and starts playing well, you'll just flood the topic with useless posts, because nobody is giving KD the mvp.
Even when KD was playing in the 7 or 8 games with Harden, it was harden the one the most important role anyway.
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Bradley Beal is the darkest horse candidate...but if the wizards get above 500....
He’s the clear cut mvp
He’s the clear cut mvp
Pay your beals....or its lights out!!!
Bron, Bosh, Wade is like Mike, Hakeem, barkley...3 top 5 picks from same draft
mike, hakeem and Barkley on the same team!!!!
Bron, Bosh, Wade is like Mike, Hakeem, barkley...3 top 5 picks from same draft
mike, hakeem and Barkley on the same team!!!!
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FinnTheHuman wrote:art_tatum wrote:Openheimer wrote:The only net that has a chance of wining it harden. He is the most important player and the Nets offensive playmaker. He has been their most important player
Kd might have an argument in narrative if he comes back and they go on a crazy win streak. Unlikely but I can hope.
I did say harden is the most important piece, but mvp no. He is changing his game to pass more a bit to accommodate KI who as a worse player is probably too stubborn to be 3rd scorer. Harden is a better passer so it's the right decision.
KD won't have an argument because there's no way he makes up for all the missed games. He's missed 16 out of 72 games already, that's 22% of the regular season games missed at least. He's surely gonna miss at least a quarter of the season, so please don't come here arguing for KD mvp once he comes back and starts playing well, you'll just flood the topic with useless posts, because nobody is giving a guy who misses 1/4 of the season the mvp.
Like I said if there's a media push for it I'm all behind it.
You're not the one deciding the mvp.
Besides If u check my post history in this thread, I've constantly championed embiid for mvp. Lillard for a hot sec when they were a high seed.
I can look past my personal biases for certain players. I don't idolize any of them
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Loldeneem4 wrote:Bradley Beal is the darkest horse candidate...but if the wizards get above 500....
He’s the clear cut mvp
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art_tatum wrote:FinnTheHuman wrote:art_tatum wrote:
Kd might have an argument in narrative if he comes back and they go on a crazy win streak. Unlikely but I can hope.
I did say harden is the most important piece, but mvp no. He is changing his game to pass more a bit to accommodate KI who as a worse player is probably too stubborn to be 3rd scorer. Harden is a better passer so it's the right decision.
KD won't have an argument because there's no way he makes up for all the missed games. He's missed 16 out of 72 games already, that's 22% of the regular season games missed at least. He's surely gonna miss at least a quarter of the season, so please don't come here arguing for KD mvp once he comes back and starts playing well, you'll just flood the topic with useless posts, because nobody is giving a guy who misses 1/4 of the season the mvp.
Like I said if there's a media push for it I'm all behind it.
You're not the one deciding the mvp.
Besides If u check my post history in this thread, I've constantly championed embiid for mvp. Lillard for a hot sec when they were a high seed.
I can look past my personal biases for certain players. I don't idolize any of them
KD has no chance at all. He’s missed and will continue to miss too much of the season. Besides the nets are doing great and went on a win streak without him so he wouldn’t even have that narrative going for him.
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art_tatum wrote:FinnTheHuman wrote:art_tatum wrote:
Kd might have an argument in narrative if he comes back and they go on a crazy win streak. Unlikely but I can hope.
I did say harden is the most important piece, but mvp no. He is changing his game to pass more a bit to accommodate KI who as a worse player is probably too stubborn to be 3rd scorer. Harden is a better passer so it's the right decision.
KD won't have an argument because there's no way he makes up for all the missed games. He's missed 16 out of 72 games already, that's 22% of the regular season games missed at least. He's surely gonna miss at least a quarter of the season, so please don't come here arguing for KD mvp once he comes back and starts playing well, you'll just flood the topic with useless posts, because nobody is giving a guy who misses 1/4 of the season the mvp.
Like I said if there's a media push for it I'm all behind it.
You're not the one deciding the mvp.
Besides If u check my post history in this thread, I've constantly championed embiid for mvp. Lillard for a hot sec when they were a high seed.
I can look past my personal biases for certain players. I don't idolize any of them
I'm not saying it as my opinion, I'm saying it as a fact, nobody who's missed a quarter of a season has ever been an MVP and it won't ever happen, it's a simple fact backed up by data. For that reason, there won't be no media push, there won't be a voter ready to give KD a 1st place vote, there'll just be you unnecessarily taking space here posting that he should be MVP if he plays on a high level. All I'm saying is, don't bother, it ain't worth the time.
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FinnTheHuman wrote:art_tatum wrote:Openheimer wrote:The only net that has a chance of wining it harden. He is the most important player and the Nets offensive playmaker. He has been their most important player
Kd might have an argument in narrative if he comes back and they go on a crazy win streak. Unlikely but I can hope.
I did say harden is the most important piece, but mvp no. He is changing his game to pass more a bit to accommodate KI who as a worse player is probably too stubborn to be 3rd scorer. Harden is a better passer so it's the right decision.
KD won't have an argument because there's no way he makes up for all the missed games. He's missed 16 out of 72 games already, that's 22% of the regular season games missed at least. He's surely gonna miss at least a quarter of the season, so please don't come here arguing for KD mvp once he comes back and starts playing well, you'll just flood the topic with useless posts, because nobody is giving a guy who misses 1/4 of the season the mvp.
Nobody is giving a guy who tanked 1/4 of the season MVP either.
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KyRo23 wrote:Blaze94 wrote:KyRo23 wrote:
Then he slept with your girl? Like why are you so salty lol
not salty..tired of low iq fans like you pushing bs narrative of lebron..dudes not even in the top 5 at this point..are you like in a lebron trance or something lmao
I don’t even think he’s leading right now but I think he wins it before the end of the season. You went from a fan to obsessing over how much you don’t like him and his fans. It stems from something and I don’t even wanna know. Sad stuff. Work on that, it might consume a lot of your time, sport
you wrote a paragraph of nonsense lmao you should migrate to reddit..its a plethora of lebron homers, you would fit right in
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Blaze94 wrote:KyRo23 wrote:Blaze94 wrote:
use to be a big lebron fan but ok buddy..you lebron stans ruin the game with constant bias and undermine other players who are doing better this year
Then he slept with your girl? Like why are you so salty lol
This is considered baiting; provocation is unecessary.
not salty..tired of low iq fans like you pushing bs narrative of lebron..dudes not even in the top 5 at this point..are you like in a lebron trance or something lmao
Don't take the bait; this is considered a personal attack.
If neither of you can engage in dialogue without baiting and insulting each other, then don't interact at all.




