2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #4 Cleveland Cavaliers vs. #5 Orlando Magic (CLE WINS 4-3)

JujitsuFlip · Post #1421 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:54 pm

KGDirkTD_Fan wrote:would you guys rather have JB or Darvin Ham as your coach

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Neither.

jb is by far the worst coach in the NBA tho.

GeorgeSears · Post #1422 » by **GeorgeSears** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:54 pm

Yea, I just don't see it with Mobley. There's a lack of motor. No "dog" in him. Those are bad signs for a big.

Chuck Everett · Post #1423 » by **Chuck Everett** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:55 pm

Franz is cooking them.

Post #1424 » by **Dirk** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:55 pm

I went to the grocery store and back and Cavs still havent scored.

BigDan245 · Post #1425 » by **BigDan245** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:56 pm

Do Cavs fans still want to argue that Orlando's defense isn't better? lol

Airmiess · Post #1426 » by **Airmiess** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:56 pm

Seems like toughness in these type of environments are what pundits didn't account for when giving Mobley all that praise initially. To be fair you cant know until they get to the playoffs.

thelead · Post #1427 » by **thelead** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:56 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:Franz is cooking them.

Is there still a Franz vs Mobley debate to be had?

JujitsuFlip · Post #1428 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:56 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Iwasawitness wrote:Orlando has made clear adjustments and is taking full advantage of the openings it’s given us. The big problem with JB is that this is where his shortcomings as a coach come in. If you make adjustments, he won’t know what to do.
Yeah Cavs lost this one. Headed back to CLE tied 2-2.

I'd say Mitchell does extend, so trade him and jb needs to be gone this summer, 3rd postseason in a row he gets outcoahced and doesn't reach the 2nd round.

Allen's value will never be higher after being the Cavs best player in this series, I'd trade him, get as much value back as possible.

Soft reset.

Trade Mobley when he still has value and get a real coach that can win. This should be a 4-0 or 4-1 series and we will lose in 6.

Mobley is too soft and weak and gets shook by physicality.

Mitchell should leave because the Cavs have wasted him with a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) coach

Trade Mobley or Allen, idc. The pairing has not worked 3 post seasons in a row.

Allen is by far the better player.

KGDirkTD_Fan · Post #1429 » by **KGDirkTD_Fan** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:56 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
KGDirkTD_Fan wrote:would you guys rather have JB or Darvin Ham as your coach

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Neither.

jb is by far the worst coach in the NBA tho.

I've held off on passing judgment on JB for a while, there's no doubt in my mind he's the worst by midway this season...not sure what I expected.

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Captain_Obvious · Post #1430 » by **Captain_Obvious** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:56 pm

lol Garland

Doranku · Post #1431 » by **Doranku** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:57 pm

Cavs should have moved on from Garland when his stock was high. This team just cannot score if Mitchell isn't on.

Chuck Everett · Post #1432 » by **Chuck Everett** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:57 pm

GeorgeSears wrote:Yea, I just don't see it with Mobley. There's a lack of motor. No "dog" in him. Those are bad signs for a big.

If they trade him somewhere, I guarantee you that guy is going to do big things. He still needs to fill out his body. Remember what Jaren Jackson looked like when he was 22. It's the same thing with Jabari Smith Jr. When Mobley is 24-25, he's going to be a problem.

Post #1433 » by **jbk1234** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:57 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:The Cavs are standing around and letting everything happen and panicking and the coach refuses to call a timeout. JB Bickerstaff is an abomination

I'm not as down on JBB as others, and the officiating this quarter has been seriously one sided, but yeah, if we lose this game, that 3rd quarter is probably the nail in the coffin.

JujitsuFlip · Post #1434 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:57 pm

BigDan245 wrote:Do Cavs fans still want to argue that Orlando's defense isn't better? lol

Magic are a top 2 or 3 defense, not sure anyone has or should argue otherwise.

ChipotleWest · Post #1435 » by **ChipotleWest** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:58 pm

If Lebron decided to go home to Cleveland would they be a contender? I say no.

Airmiess · Post #1436 » by **Airmiess** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:58 pm

They don't have anybody denying Franz the way he should be. Cant see this Cavs team doing anything in the playoffs

zeebneeb · Post #1437 » by **zeebneeb** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:59 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
BigDan245 wrote:Do Cavs fans still want to argue that Orlando's defense isn't better? lol
Magic are a top 2 or 3 defense, not sure anyone has or should argue otherwise.

Clearly #4.

:evil:

advocate.

canada_dry · Post #1438 » by **canada_dry** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:59 pm

Cavs are on notice

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Post #1439 » by **jbk1234** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:59 pm

You have to try TT here instead of Niang.

Roger Murdock · Post #1440 » by **Roger Murdock** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:59 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Roger Murdock wrote:The Cavs are standing around and letting everything happen and panicking and the coach refuses to call a timeout. JB Bickerstaff is an abomination

I'm not as down on JBB as others, and the officiating this quarter has been seriously one sided, but yeah, if we lose this game, that 3rd quarter is probably the nail in the coffin.

There’s 29 nba coaches who win this series

Who wins?