FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 | SPAIN are new WORLD CHAMPIONS

[Zombiesonics]

I thought cr was impressive with balvin and an array of fundamentally sound wing shooters surrounding santo, but when I came here after it’s game with USA I was told they were garbage. Balvin solid on the pick n pop and has real size.

[Pachinko_]

From "if Giannis had a jump shot" to "if Balvin had a jump shot"

[limbo]

I always amazed how NBA hardens players so much better sometimes. Like, I wasnt a huge Satoransky fan in Barcelona, he was just ok, but few seasons in the NBA, and he is so much better now. Same happened to Scola, De Colo and countless other players.

Yep. I always say the level of training and competition in the NBA will make players better if they put in the necessary work. No question about that. A lot of people in Europe are scared for their players development when they decide to leave a good role in an Euroleague team to sit on the bench of NBA teams, and while i can see why, as game time is important, the amount these players improve just with training alone is most times worth it.

Take a guy like Dragic for example. Dude was playing for Murcia and Olimpija Ljubljana before coming to the NBA. He was nowhere close being one of the best players in Europe playing for elite European clubs as someone like Doncic was. Dude came into the NBA, decided he was going to bulk up and work on his game, he improved steadily, waited for his chance, got playing time and after a couple of seasons he was a very solid consistent guard in the NBA. Came back to Europe and he dominated the competition internationally.

[stoo]

So let me get this straight, idk how this 2nd round thing works but bare with me:

If Greece and Brazil lose both to US, that creates a triangle with Czechia, Greece and Brazil
Czechia has 22pt win against Brazil
Brazil has 1pt win against Greece
Greece has yet to play Czechia and has -1 from Brazil game.
So, if Greece doesn't win by margin of 12 against Czechia, both them and Brazilians fall out?

Can somebody check that for me?

the points difference from the opening group is also counted, so Greece are currently +30 and Czech republic +29

lets say greece lose by 10pts against usa, that puts them +20 so they would need a 5pt win against czech republic

Point difference is valid only among teams in question, as far as i know... so point difference with teams not in particular tiebreak are irrelevant

[UcanUwill]

Jonas is usually Goberts daddy, but he is such liability defending pick and roll, coach had to sub him out. Looks like Lithuania is finished

[Gooner]

Just went back to watch the highlights of the last World Cup Final in 2014 between the US and Serbia. Man, the talent disparity between that Team USA and this one is insane. People actually forget that Serbia was up 8 points in the first 5 minutes of that game, and then Kyrie happened. He just started pulling up and hitting everything and the score went from 15-7 to 19-35, lmao... Harden also came out scorching, No defense for that. Serbia got demoralized soon as the lead went above 20. Kyrie and Harden combined for 49 points on 17/23 shooting (9/11 from 3), lol.

The US misses that type of firepower in this tournament big time. I don't even think there's a player on that roster that can just take the ball and fill up the basket at will. Maybe Kemba, but he's tryna play team ball, while the 2014 had guys like Kyrie, Harden, Curry, Thompson. These guys are all impossible to guard. They just take the ball, make space, pull up and score or drive at will.

Also, as much as people like to clown Cousins and Faried, they had far more presence around the rim than any Big on this 2019 team. I like Turner, he's a solid starting C in the NBA, but Cousins is a professor compared to him when it comes to offense. Dude was a physical bully + had finesse and skill to his game, Turner has size and can block shots but he's kinda soft and clumsy. Faried was just a wad of energy. A workman that was strictly finishing plays, which is what you need when you have an overload of on-ball offensive talent as is. Now compare that to freaking Barnes, Tatum and Brown... all the same type of player. I'd rather have Trez Harrell, Julius Randle or even Thad Young.

Well, at least it will make for an interesting tourney.

Yeah, Kyrie and Harden just put on a clinic in that final, and they kileed that game after just one quarter. That Serban team was ready to compete, but there was nothing they could do. Irving, Harden, Klay, Curry...just too much firepower. This year could be different, USA is vulnerable, but it still takes a lot to beat them.

[The Rodzilla]

So let me get this straight, idk how this 2nd round thing works but bare with me:

If Greece and Brazil lose both to US, that creates a triangle with Czechia, Greece and Brazil
Czechia has 22pt win against Brazil
Brazil has 1pt win against Greece
Greece has yet to play Czechia and has -1 from Brazil game.
So, if Greece doesn't win by margin of 12 against Czechia, both them and Brazilians fall out?

Can somebody check that for me?

the points difference from the opening group is also counted, so Greece are currently +30 and Czech republic +29

lets say greece lose by 10pts against usa, that puts them +20 so they would need a 5pt win against czech republic

Point difference is valid only among teams in question, as far as i know... so point difference with teams not in particular tiebreak are irrelevant

oh ok, i heard the australian commentary team complaining that the points from other group games counted, so they were wrong

this means the france-lithuania game is not as important as i thought for australia, we have the a 6pt win over lithuania in the bag so we could still advance with a close loss against france

[Gooner]

France has the best defense in this tournament, that could get them very far. If the had Heurtel and Moerman, they would be scary.

[stoo]

People need to chill out on talking about this Serbia team like they’ve done anything but massacre far inferior “fun sized” squads and eventually pull away from a C+ Italy team. So much premature crowing.

What to say about USA-Japan mismatch then

Lot of people here are talking about Serbia playing against weak opponents here. Like if that matters. I guess they don't really understand basketball, and if they watch highlights from some of those games it might mean literally nothing to them. Their conclusion is question: Why is Jokic not playing more... like wtf
But if they see highlights of some team with a few attractive iso plays, they can say that team is better.

We might win against Angola, Pilipines, Puerto Rico and Italy here easily, but let me remind u of results of all preparation games Serbia played prior to this cup:

Serbia 95-75 Finland
Serbia 72-68 Lithuania
Serbia 95-91 Lithuania
Serbia 87-72 Turkey
Serbia 96-64 Italy
Serbia 85-80 Greece
Serbia 71-65 Italy
Serbia 88-78 New Zealand
Serbia 61-56 France

[Beorn]

So let me get this straight, idk how this 2nd round thing works but bare with me:

If Greece and Brazil lose both to US, that creates a triangle with Czechia, Greece and Brazil
Czechia has 22pt win against Brazil
Brazil has 1pt win against Greece
Greece has yet to play Czechia and has -1 from Brazil game.
So, if Greece doesn't win by margin of 12 against Czechia, both them and Brazilians fall out?

Can somebody check that for me?

this is how it works, yes.

[stoo]

the points difference from the opening group is also counted, so Greece are currently +30 and Czech republic +29

lets say greece lose by 10pts against usa, that puts them +20 so they would need a 5pt win against czech republic

Point difference is valid only among teams in question, as far as i know... so point difference with teams not in particular tiebreak are irrelevant

oh ok, i heard the australian commentary team complaining that the points from other group games counted, so they were wrong

this means the france-lithuania game is not as important as i thought for australia, we have the a 6pt win over lithuania in the bag so we could still advance with a close loss against france

I am not 100% sure, but that's what I understood from reading a post here from official FIBA site

[Gooner]

Fournier is a joy to watch when he is on.

[limbo]

This game is far from over. Lithuania doesn't get demoralized as easily, and i've seen France choke offensively too many times. Still a long way to go.

[KqWIN]

Barnes is so overwhelmed. What the hell is he doing on Giannis?

[UcanUwill]

Fournier is so good.

[stitches]

Joe Harris is horrible on D. I didn't realize he's this bad. He's been consistently bad in every game.

[UcanUwill]

Jankunas is washed, but he is still dirty and gets under opponent skin.

[gh123]

Joe Harris is horrible on D. I didn't realize he's this bad. He's been consistently bad in every game.

He's been awful on D the whole time, a very slow dude.

[KqWIN]

White has awful vision. He doesn't look up when he dribbles.

[Zombiesonics]

PLUMLEE AND DERRICK WHITE SHOULD NOT BE ON THE TEAM. sorry for the caps not spamming but this cannot be emphasized more. I have no clue what coleangelo was thinking. i would rather have thad young and trae, who has usa experience