Metta World Peace elbow to Harden

Post #1481 » by **INKtastic** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:48 pm

LApwnd wrote:fine by me, if Kobe ran up into somebody celebrating like a wild man and got elbowed up thats on him.

So had Kobe stepped over to attempt to steal an inbounds pass to Harden and then been the one Artest elbowed like that, you'd be okay with it?

Vincent 666 · Post #1482 » by **Vincent 666** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:48 pm

blumeany wrote:
Harden 'ran into him' (which people seem to think helps justify things, but whatever), but by pre-meditated I mean that he knew exactly what he was doing. It may have happened quickly, but Artest knowingly cocked his elbow back and threw it. It wasn't a 'get off me' kind of shove, which would have been fine in my book. He consciously pulled his arm back and hit Harden as hard as he could in the head.

He was banging his chest with his right and left arm (a celebration hes done in the past).

Harden just happened to be there. Artest wasnt even looking at him.

TheXFactor · Post #1483 » by **TheXFactor** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:49 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGzSNsPafY0[/youtube]

Harden is known for this, he doing the same thing to Peace to body him up, but this time Peace unloaded on his face :lol:

.. Big guys don't like little guys rubbing up on them.

spearsy23 · Post #1484 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:49 pm

I can't believe this thread is going 100 pages because there are people stupid enough to defend what Artest did...

LApwnd · Post #1485 » by **LApwnd** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:50 pm

INKtastic wrote:
LApwnd wrote:fine by me, if Kobe ran up into somebody celebrating like a wild man and got elbowed up thats on him.

So had Kobe stepped over to attempt to steal an inbounds pass to Harden and then been the one Artest elbowed like that, you'd be okay with it?

was that what Artest was doing? I'm talking bout IF kobe ran up into say a Perkins after he just made a dunk and was celebrating and got in Perkins way, if Perkins elbows the crap out of Kobe, thats on him he could just step aside.

spearsy23 · Post #1486 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:51 pm

TheXFactor wrote:Harden is known for this

He's known for getting cheap shotted by Ron Artest? Well, sure, he is now.

Leto · Post #1487 » by **Leto** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:51 pm

LApwnd wrote:Do you even watch basketball? The entire game is "getting in other people's way." Its called setting a screen. Its the way basketball is played. Let's not act like this is some rare occurance that only Harden does. Harden did NOTHING wrong or illegal. If you don't like it, take up another sport. But elbowing someone because of it is not allowed and is punishable by suspension.

yes I do and nobody "screens" on inbound pass in the 2nd qtr, Harden WANTED to get in Artest way and wanted a reaction unfortunately it was bad one for them both.[/quote]

:lol:

You have no idea what you're talking about. I have never seen an NBA play, on an inbound play or during regular play, that does NOT involve screening.

3gbrrrfkyt · Post #1488 » by **3gbrrrfkyt** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:51 pm

This reminds me of what Kleiza.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC625ktcDGg[/youtube]

Post #1489 » by **INKtastic** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:52 pm

LApwnd wrote:
INKtastic wrote:
LApwnd wrote:fine by me, if Kobe ran up into somebody celebrating like a wild man and got elbowed up thats on him.

So had Kobe stepped over to attempt to steal an inbounds pass to Harden and then been the one Artest elbowed like that, you'd be okay with it?

was that what Artest was doing? I'm talking bout IF kobe ran up into say a Perkins after he just made a dunk and was celebrating and got in Perkins way, if Perkins elbows the crap out of Kobe, thats on him he could just step aside.

again, see my post on the top of page 80. If Artest doesn't know who is there as some claim, then the only two choices based on the last thing he did see were Harden and Kobe. Artest doesn't even look back to see who he just elbowed in the head. Harden moved closer to the player inbounding the ball, based on the last thing Artest saw, Kobe could have easily stepped in to steal an inbounds pass.

Artest feels someone contact him, raises his elbow, cocks it back, slams it into the players head, screams, then continues to run up the court.

LApwnd · Post #1490 » by **LApwnd** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:53 pm

Leto wrote:
LApwnd wrote:Do you even watch basketball? The entire game is "getting in other people's way." Its called setting a screen. Its the way basketball is played. Let's not act like this is some rare occurance that only Harden does. Harden did NOTHING wrong or illegal. If you don't like it, take up another sport. But elbowing someone because of it is not allowed and is punishable by suspension.

yes I do and nobody "screens" on inbound pass in the 2nd qtr, Harden WANTED to get in Artest way and wanted a reaction unfortunately it was bad one for them both.

You have no idea what you're talking about. I have never seen an NBA play, on an inbound play or during regular play, that does NOT involve screening.[/quote]

really? so people screen on inbound play all the time? again never have I justified Artest actions, all I said was Harden could've avoided the contact all together, it was NOT a screen, a screen for what? there were 3 OKC Players that could've been inboudned to.

Thundestruck · Post #1491 » by **Thundestruck** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:55 pm

Some Lakers fans trying to somehow rationalize this is some of the biggest homer statements I've ever seen.

Archerbro · Post #1492 » by **Archerbro** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:56 pm

Now i realize why the laker fans were so mad at breen and magic. they can't handle the truth.

Gus McCrae · Post #1493 » by **Gus McCrae** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:56 pm

Harden definitely wanted to get under MWP's skin and provoke a reaction or frustrate him. Unfortunately he underestimated MWP's craziness and it cost them both a couple games.

Leto · Post #1494 » by **Leto** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:56 pm

LApwnd wrote:
Leto wrote:
LApwnd wrote:Do you even watch basketball? The entire game is "getting in other people's way." Its called setting a screen. Its the way basketball is played. Let's not act like this is some rare occurance that only Harden does. Harden did NOTHING wrong or illegal. If you don't like it, take up another sport. But elbowing someone because of it is not allowed and is punishable by suspension.

yes I do and nobody "screens" on inbound pass in the 2nd qtr, Harden WANTED to get in Artest way and wanted a reaction unfortunately it was bad one for them both.

You have no idea what you're talking about. I have never seen an NBA play, on an inbound play or during regular play, that does NOT involve screening.

really? so people screen on inbound play all the time? again never have I justified Artest actions, all I said was Harden could've avoided the contact all together, it was NOT a screen, a screen for what? there were 3 OKC Players that could've been inboudned to.[/quote]

Harden has EVERY right to step in front of any player at any time during the game. The notion that he shouldn't, is flat out ridiculous.

It makes ZERO difference that he was probably screening him off from THEIR BEST PLAYER, DURANT.

Vincent 666 · Post #1495 » by **Vincent 666** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:56 pm

INKtastic wrote:
LApwnd wrote:
see my post on the top of page 80. If Artest doesn't know who is there as some claim, then the only two choices based on the last thing he did see were Harden and Kobe. Artest doesn't even look back to see who he just elbowed in the head. Harden moved closer to the player inbounding the ball, based on the last thing Artest saw, Kobe could have easily stepped in to steal an inbounds pass.

Artest feels someone contact him, raises his elbow, cocks it back, slams it into the players head, screams, then continues to run up the court.

Or maybe Artest was simply celebrating a dunk and elbowed someone without realizing it.

Leto · Post #1496 » by **Leto** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:57 pm

Thundestruck wrote:Some Lakers fans trying to somehow rationalize this is some of the biggest homer statements I've ever seen.

Gus McCrae · Post #1497 » by **Gus McCrae** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:58 pm

I kind of relate it to a little kid messing around with a pitbull.

LApwnd · Post #1498 » by **LApwnd** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:59 pm

Thundestruck wrote:Some Lakers fans trying to somehow rationalize this is some of the biggest homer statements I've ever seen.

what is there to justify? seriously, all i said was it COULD'VE been avoided is that not true? I'm certainly not saying Artest didn't know what he was doing, he knew EXACTLY what he was doing but the SANE person could've avoided the issue altogether and again that was NO screen, Harden wanted a reaction from Artest just to bad for them both it was the wrong kind.

Leto · Post #1499 » by **Leto** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:00 pm

SoCAL24 wrote:I kind of relate it to a little kid messing around with a pitbull.

Except pit bulls aren't allowed to play basketball and basketball has rules.

doctorfunk · Post #1500 » by **doctorfunk** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:00 pm

Leto wrote:Harden has EVERY right to step in front of any player at any time during the game. The notion that he shouldn't, is flat out ridiculous.

yes,
he shouldn't provoke unnecessary contact, he got what he wanted(a foul or some sort of a reaction from the opposing player)

Leto wrote:It makes ZERO difference that he was probably screening him off from THEIR BEST PLAYER, DURANT.

he wasn't screening for anybody, artest wasn't defending the ball or the players, he was celebrating and running back

funny how thunder fans accuse Laker fans(not that i am one, im not)
while they are exaggerating here and being homers themselves

again(since ppl don't read posts back), MWP deserves a suspension, however fact that the contact was provoked should act as justifying circumstances and warrant a lower suspension perhaps?