Woj/Shams: Ime Udoka Suspended for 2022-23 Season - Inappropriate Relationship, Conduct Violations

[Big J]

WHY THE HELL DO WE NOT KNOW WHAT TF HAPPENED YET? It's been 2 days of this **** and we still don't know any more than what we knew in the beginning. This is **** BS.

It's actually been a few months. This is an internal issue, and a public person happens to be a part of it. The other involved parties' names will remain private. All we need to know is that Udoka is suspended 'cause he did something against internal rules (which he agreed to when he signed his contract). He already acknowledged publicly that he ****ed up, which should be telling. The Celtics don't owe us any creepy details.

He made unwanted advances. We need to know exactly what he did so that we can decide whether the suspension was justified or not. I’m not saying the Celts owe us anything, but the public deserves to know what is going on because the longer they keep hiding it the bigger this story is getting.

[jc23]

i think its amazing that there were no leaks during the two month investigation.

[California Gold]

Excuse me if I come off as ignorant but Malika Andrews seems to be coming off very biased in favor of the woman or women involved in this.

The organization put out the word "consensual" which means both sides took part and agreed. So right off the bat, the woman or women involved in this are EQUALLY in this as much as Udoka. Yet she wants to pretend like facts are being missed and people are just speculating. 1+1 = 2. You can't argue against logic. Short of Udoka harassing someone against their will, both parties took part in this. You can argue about how he could've used his position of power to manipulate someone and the rest of the stuff about unwanted advances which is a separate thing all together, but I'm sorry that doesn't fly as an excuse for someone to just partake so that alone is something that should warrant consequences. People want equality yet they'll make excuses for one gender over the other when these things go down. I really wonder how much yapping there would be from someone like Andrews if the head coach was a Female and it was man in the organization that was involved at a lower level position. I know none of this matters in the grand scheme and the woman will be equally fired (if they're not hypocrites in the Celtics org at least) but this was a bad look for ESPN with how Andrew came off.

[MrBigShot]

The only thing that I didn't necessarily see as evidence - was the Matt Barnes video. He has struck me as a guy who has been angling to tell his side of the story on things since he retired. This allowed him to pretend like he knows more than he actually does and stay relevant. I could be wrong, but I was skeptical about his video.

He runs a pretty popular podcast with Stephen Jackson. Matt Barnes is arguably more relevant now than he was as a player. If he wanted to clout chase he'd say something controversial in defense of Ime Udoka again, not do a 180 and apologize.

Matt Barnes strikes me as a very no BS, old school sort of guy. As a former player and media member he has a whole lot of connections, so it's not surprising that he'd know more about the situation. It's not evidence but it points to this involving some very serious wrong doing...Barnes more or less implied that he'd have not punished him at all if it was just a consensual affair.

[Antinomy]

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=Af8GHpt_B2zIxo8kKaOnBg

This is the list of theories out there.

Add that the creepy text messages could be threatening and/or blackmail

I dropped bits & pieces earlier, and yea…

I wasn’t kidding.

[SuperDeluxe]

He made unwanted advances. We need to know exactly what he did so that we can decide whether the suspension was justified or not.

The Celtics are a private organization with internal rules. They decided, according to their internal rules, that this was the appropriate suspension. There's nothing for us fans to decide.

I’m not saying the Celts owe us anything, but the public deserves to know what is going on because the longer they keep hiding it the bigger this story is getting.

The bolded part is a good point. I assume all the parties involved must've signed some type of confidentiality agreement. Or maybe their lawyers told them not to speak. Or maybe what happened was so bad that all parties realize that making the details public would be against everybody's best interests.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Can't believe it's still not deleted.

Read on Twitter

NBA players are the worst if it was a white man they wouldn’t say ****

As soon as the details leak, I'm sure LeBron will be tweeting Ime should be banned from the league.

[Antinomy]

I'm sorry, but 2 people violated the organization's policy here. Only 1 faces consequences? Was the policy made up?

There was more than 1 woman, including atleast one who came from outside the organization & one who was waaaay younger than him.

[lambchop]

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=Af8GHpt_B2zIxo8kKaOnBg

This is the list of theories out there.

Add that the creepy text messages could be threatening and/or blackmail

Question: apart from the messages, is any of that actually considered illegal? Like is it illegal to bang a co-worker's wife or get other random employees pregnant?
I'm obviously asking assuming that it wasn't rape.

[Capn'O]

For those who were confused, some of the items on that list should serve as a teachable moment as to why companies have these policies for harassment and fraternization.

[Jfh20]

Rumors that it may not be consensual … don’t take it as fact, but that’s wat is out there.. based on the Matt video, signs are pointing to this.. Celtics are not saying anything but something not right

[azcatz11]

I'm sorry, but 2 people violated the organization's policy here. Only 1 faces consequences? Was the policy made up?

There was more than 1 woman, including atleast one who came from outside the organization & one who was waaaay younger than him.

Who cares how old she was?

[Antinomy]

I'm sorry, but 2 people violated the organization's policy here. Only 1 faces consequences? Was the policy made up?

There was more than 1 woman, including atleast one who came from outside the organization & one who was waaaay younger than him.

Who cares how old she was?

When you guys find out how old one of them was, you’ll know why the “consensual” part started being backtracked.

[California Gold]

Rumors that it may not be consensual … don’t take it as fact, but that’s wat is out there.. based on the Matt video, signs are pointing to this.. Celtics are not saying anything but something not right

If that's the case then there's going to be a criminal investigation of rape. I don't see how that's the case when the word consensual as already been reported on but numerous reporters and that sexual assault has not been uttered once nor has that there was any criminal activity.

[azcatz11]

There was more than 1 woman, including atleast one who came from outside the organization & one who was waaaay younger than him.

Who cares how old she was?

When you guys find out how old one of them was, you’ll know why the “consensual” part started being backtracked.

So how old was she? You’re posting on an anonymous website spill it

[California Gold]

There was more than 1 woman, including atleast one who came from outside the organization & one who was waaaay younger than him.

Who cares how old she was?

When you guys find out how old one of them was, you’ll know why the “consensual” part started being backtracked.

That doesn't really make sense in the case of the Boston Celtics organization side of things. For the woman or women involved within the Celtics organization, unless it was a minor or that that person was raped it was consensual. If there are others outside of that that's another story and not related in the discussion of consequences as it pertains to Celtics employment.

[Antinomy]

Who cares how old she was?

When you guys find out how old one of them was, you’ll know why the “consensual” part started being backtracked.

That doesn't really make sense in the case of the Boston Celtics organization side of things. For the woman or women involved within the Celtics organization, unless it was a minor or that that person was raped it was consensual. If there are others outside of that that's another story and not related in the discussion of consequences as it pertains to Celtics employment.

She wasn’t a minor — think in terms of someone around college aged.

[SuperDeluxe]

Rumors that it may not be consensual … don’t take it as fact, but that’s wat is out there.. based on the Matt video, signs are pointing to this.. Celtics are not saying anything but something not right

If that's the case then there's going to be a criminal investigation of rape. I don't see how that's the case when the word consensual as already been reported on but numerous reporters and that sexual assault has not been uttered once nor has that there was any criminal activity.

The relationship that triggered the investigation was consensual until it stopped being consensual, and then it seems that Udoka started harassing this woman. I don't know what 'harassing' exactly means in this case -- it could be lewd messages, threats to make things public, etc. Really no idea.

But there's been no mention of rape or sexual assault or anything like that.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Am I too late to make a load management joke?

[The Moose]

When you guys find out how old one of them was, you’ll know why the “consensual” part started being backtracked.

That doesn't really make sense in the case of the Boston Celtics organization side of things. For the woman or women involved within the Celtics organization, unless it was a minor or that that person was raped it was consensual. If there are others outside of that that's another story and not related in the discussion of consequences as it pertains to Celtics employment.

She wasn’t a minor — think in terms of someone around college aged.

Sleeping with a bosses daughter ? Oh he’s donezo