[2017 NBA Draft Discussion] - (1: PHI, 2: LAL, 3: BOS)!

[TheSuzerain]

Anyone else see Harden in Fultz? I haven't really seen that comp but watching a bunch of highlights he has a Harden type game. Great in the pnr, very polished offensively, extremely smooth game with a great handle in traffic, will pop the three off the dribble or if defenders go under. Decent comp?

Reminds me of Harden in Wade's body.

Although he doesn't have Wade's athleticism obviously.

[KingDavid]

This is a really interesting read. http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2017/03/10/college-prospect-rating-cpr-version-3/

Fantastic article.

So Malik Monk is one to keep an eye on...

[bwgood77]

This is a really interesting read. http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2017/03/10/college-prospect-rating-cpr-version-3/

Fantastic article.

So Malik Monk is one to keep an eye on...

Did you get to the very bottom? Not a bad score for Durant.

[KingDavid]

This is a really interesting read. http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2017/03/10/college-prospect-rating-cpr-version-3/

Fantastic article.

So Malik Monk is one to keep an eye on...

Did you get to the very bottom? Not a bad score for Durant.

Yes! That's insane! I read the entire thing. All I could think about is what in the world would LeBron had scored if he went to college?!

[bwgood77]

Fantastic article.

So Malik Monk is one to keep an eye on...

Did you get to the very bottom? Not a bad score for Durant.

Yes! That's insane! I read the entire thing. All I could think about is what in the world would LeBron had scored if he went to college?!

I know...for. For anyone else, it's well worth a read, or at a minimum, scroll through the charts and scores through the years to see how accurate the projection system looks.

[heatwillbeback]

Anyone else see Harden in Fultz? I haven't really seen that comp but watching a bunch of highlights he has a Harden type game. Great in the pnr, very polished offensively, extremely smooth game with a great handle in traffic, will pop the three off the dribble or if defenders go under. Decent comp?

Reminds me of Harden in Wade's body.

Although he doesn't have Wade's athleticism obviously.

I've never heard a Wade comparison for him.

Wade came in jacked at 220. Fultz is much smaller (though same height).

[TheSuzerain]

Anyone else see Harden in Fultz? I haven't really seen that comp but watching a bunch of highlights he has a Harden type game. Great in the pnr, very polished offensively, extremely smooth game with a great handle in traffic, will pop the three off the dribble or if defenders go under. Decent comp?

Reminds me of Harden in Wade's body.

Although he doesn't have Wade's athleticism obviously.

I've never heard a Wade comparison for him.

Wade came in jacked at 220. Fultz is much smaller (though same height).

Wade came in 15 pounds heavier and 2 years older. You'd hope/expect Fultz can add some weight/strength now that he's a pro.

Their Height/Wingspan/Reach are very similar though.

[heatwillbeback]

Reminds me of Harden in Wade's body.

Although he doesn't have Wade's athleticism obviously.

I've never heard a Wade comparison for him.

Wade came in jacked at 220. Fultz is much smaller (though same height).

Wade came in 15 pounds heavier and 2 years older. You'd hope/expect Fultz can add some weight/strength now that he's a pro.

Their Height/Wingspan/Reach are very similar though.

This is true. But some guys just never do- like Jamal Crawford who I have seen Fultz compared to physically.

[Foliohattu]

Did you get to the very bottom? Not a bad score for Durant.

Yes! That's insane! I read the entire thing. All I could think about is what in the world would LeBron had scored if he went to college?!

I know...for. For anyone else, it's well worth a read, or at a minimum, scroll through the charts and scores through the years to see how accurate the projection system looks.

It was a great read. I think the system loves Malik Monk because it takes 10 best games of each player and Monk had some insane scoring games (47 vs UNC, 34 vs Ole Miss, 37 vs Georgia, 33 vs Florida etc.) and they assume that scoring is extremely hard for young players. The model does seem to correlate really well for past players, but I´m not sold on Monk yet.

[Pinkyring]

Im a monk believer an efficient 20 ppg as a freshman and freak athlete.

[sixerhp3]

dennis smith jr. WILL be a steal if he is selected outside the top 5

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

I don't understand the Kennard hype.

For every JJ Reddick, there are 40 Adam Morrison's, Jimmer Fredette's, Nik Stauskas', and so on.

[Alonzo_Morning]

Where will Caleb Swanigan go?

[TOO]

Where will Caleb Swanigan go?

Red Lobster?

[BigTrade92]

I've never heard a Wade comparison for him.

Wade came in jacked at 220. Fultz is much smaller (though same height).

Wade came in 15 pounds heavier and 2 years older. You'd hope/expect Fultz can add some weight/strength now that he's a pro.

Their Height/Wingspan/Reach are very similar though.

This is true. But some guys just never do- like Jamal Crawford who I have seen Fultz compared to physically.

Read on Twitter

Jamal Crawford? Maybe two Jamal Crawford's put together.

Fultz is jacked. The Wade comp seems accurate.

[JoeyMorgan619]

Obviously they aren't able to draft him but if somehow they were able to acquire Lonzo, would him/his dad be happy with that? I'm surprised I haven't seen a single thing about him and the Clippers. I understand it's not the same as the Lakers, but I would have to think him at least staying in LA would be better for him than playing in say Minnesota or Philly.

Why would Philly be bad for him to play in?

I never said it would. He wants to play in LA, and Philly isn't LA.

[Spens1]

This is a really interesting read. http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2017/03/10/college-prospect-rating-cpr-version-3/

no surprise on Monk, fantastic shooter and player really. My only worry is that someone will try to make him a P.G because of his size.

Also agree that Swanigan is really underrated going into this draft. He averaged 18/12 and is a great shooter. May not be defensively impressive but teams at the end of the first would be stupid not to consider him. He could be very good as a modern small-ball centre even initially.

Also agree that DSJ is the pick of the P.G's after Fultz and Ball.

Will say the list got Smart completely wrong, Smart was drafted 6 and people thought he would be really really good, he's been mostly a role player. Then again it even acknowledges that fact.

[Dr_Heat]

Zach Collins

[Patsfan1081]

This is a really interesting read. http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2017/03/10/college-prospect-rating-cpr-version-3/

no surprise on Monk, fantastic shooter and player really. My only worry is that someone will try to make him a P.G because of his size.

Also agree that Swanigan is really underrated going into this draft. He averaged 18/12 and is a great shooter. May not be defensively impressive but teams at the end of the first would be stupid not to consider him. He could be very good as a modern small-ball centre even initially.

Also agree that DSJ is the pick of the P.G's after Fultz and Ball.

Will say the list got Smart completely wrong, Smart was drafted 6 and people thought he would be really really good, he's been mostly a role player. Then again it even acknowledges that fact.

I think people are worried about Swanigan's tweeter status and possibly his conditioning. With Smarts work ethic also no one really could have predicted his inability to develope his outside shot nor the fact that he's reluctant to stop shooting the three. I mean he's been the defender everyone thought he would be and he's delevoped into a good distributor. It's just amazing however that with the amount of threes he's taken he hasn't gotten any better.

[Patsfan1081]

Wade came in 15 pounds heavier and 2 years older. You'd hope/expect Fultz can add some weight/strength now that he's a pro.

Their Height/Wingspan/Reach are very similar though.

This is true. But some guys just never do- like Jamal Crawford who I have seen Fultz compared to physically.

Read on Twitter

Jamal Crawford? Maybe two Jamal Crawford's put together.

Fultz is jacked. The Wade comp seems accurate.

I don't know, I sort of see the resemblance.