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Why do I get the feeling if Embiid didn’t play like he did we would be hearing how “soft” he is?
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SelfishPlayer wrote:pingpongrac wrote:SelfishPlayer wrote:
When people need to lose weight they get on the treadmill. For former champion NBA teams that lose significant TALENT, they go on the treadmill. The Raptors are treadmilling.
Toronto won 27 games and was in the deep lottery last season. They won 48 games this season ~12 months after trading a few long-term vets (Lowry and Powell) for youth. Barnes (20), Achiuwa (22), Trent Jr (23) and OG (24) are 4 of Toronto's top 6 players while FVV (28) and Siakam (28) are still on the upswing of their careers. After that, Toronto has 4 other players younger than 25 (Champagnie, Banton, Brooks, Flynn) that have played meaningful minutes at various times this year. They are anything but a treadmill team. Give it at least 3 more years before making a ridiculous claim like that.
Toronto is the definition of a treadmill team. The Raptors are in the playoffs without a superstar.
Toronto lost Kawhi and still went further in the playoffs than the Sixers in 2020......Sixers got swept by the Celtics in the 1st round while the Raptors took them to 7 games.
if anything the Sixers are the treadmilling team, and that tag will stick to them until they get past the 2nd round
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Cubbies2120 wrote:Sixerscan wrote:tdot_steel wrote:.
Stop this over reacting. We beat the Sixers when they are playing for playoff seeding. The Sixers beat the brakes off the Raps in part cause the refs allowed to physically manhandle our players without impunity. The Raps will not get punked again. If the Sixers won by 3 pts we would be having a different conversation.
It was 1 game.
If you don’t want Embiid to manhandle you don’t cover him with guys a half foot shorter than him and are giving up like 50 pounds?
I think he's referring to the illegal elbows Embiid was throwing at people...
Nothing illagal about those elbows. Get your face out of the way and stop triple teaming, if you don't want that to happen. Have you seen Shaq and what he did to Mutombo in the 2001 Finals. Mutombo's face was Shaq's punching bag.
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timO wrote:P. Siakam 24 3 7 0 3 0 0 3 4 9/18 1/2 5/5 -19 39
3 O. Anunoby 20 7 2 0 0 1 2 5 2 9/15 2/5 0/0 -11 32
23 F. VanVleet 18 1 6 1 2 0 0 1 6 7/12 4/7 0/0 -19 36
4 S. Barnes 15 10 8 0 1 2 2 8 1 4/6 0/0 7/9 -10 31
bad games lolololol
Siakam and FVV were pretty average and OG was slightly above average while Barnes actually was great.
You do know there is a pretty big difference between "great" (which is what you said) and "bad" (which is what you're implying I said), right? lolololol
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SFour wrote:SelfishPlayer wrote:pingpongrac wrote:
Toronto won 27 games and was in the deep lottery last season. They won 48 games this season ~12 months after trading a few long-term vets (Lowry and Powell) for youth. Barnes (20), Achiuwa (22), Trent Jr (23) and OG (24) are 4 of Toronto's top 6 players while FVV (28) and Siakam (28) are still on the upswing of their careers. After that, Toronto has 4 other players younger than 25 (Champagnie, Banton, Brooks, Flynn) that have played meaningful minutes at various times this year. They are anything but a treadmill team. Give it at least 3 more years before making a ridiculous claim like that.
Toronto is the definition of a treadmill team. The Raptors are in the playoffs without a superstar.
Toronto lost Kawhi and still went further in the playoffs than the Sixers in 2020......Sixers got swept by the Celtics in the 1st round while the Raptors took them to 7 games.
if anything the Sixers are the treadmilling team, and that tag will stick to them until they get past the 2nd round
Treadmilling means, no hope of winning a championship while making the playoffs. You can't redefine it. The Raptors have no hope. Sweep!
SelfishPlayer wrote:The Mavs won playoff games without Luka
The Mavs missed the playoffs without Brunson.
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SelfishPlayer wrote:SFour wrote:SelfishPlayer wrote:
Toronto is the definition of a treadmill team. The Raptors are in the playoffs without a superstar.
Toronto lost Kawhi and still went further in the playoffs than the Sixers in 2020......Sixers got swept by the Celtics in the 1st round while the Raptors took them to 7 games.
if anything the Sixers are the treadmilling team, and that tag will stick to them until they get past the 2nd round
Treadmilling means, no hope of winning a championship while making the playoffs. You can't redefine it. The Raptors have no hope. Sweep!
exactly, the Sixers are a treadmill team....you really think the foul baiting brothers are winning a championship
please save this post.....if the Sixers win the championship I will delete my account
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eyeatoma wrote:Cubbies2120 wrote:Sixerscan wrote:If you don’t want Embiid to manhandle you don’t cover him with guys a half foot shorter than him and are giving up like 50 pounds?
I think he's referring to the illegal elbows Embiid was throwing at people...
Nothing illagal about those elbows. Get your face out of the way and stop triple teaming, if you don't want that to happen. Have you seen Shaq and what he did to Mutombo in the 2001 Finals. Mutombo's face was Shaq's punching bag.
21 years ago?
Literally all elbows to the face get reviewed for flagrant fouls nowadays, except when Embiid does it lol.
Stop reviewing all other elbows to the face if you're gonna treat one player differently...that's all we ask...
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SFour wrote:SelfishPlayer wrote:pingpongrac wrote:
Toronto won 27 games and was in the deep lottery last season. They won 48 games this season ~12 months after trading a few long-term vets (Lowry and Powell) for youth. Barnes (20), Achiuwa (22), Trent Jr (23) and OG (24) are 4 of Toronto's top 6 players while FVV (28) and Siakam (28) are still on the upswing of their careers. After that, Toronto has 4 other players younger than 25 (Champagnie, Banton, Brooks, Flynn) that have played meaningful minutes at various times this year. They are anything but a treadmill team. Give it at least 3 more years before making a ridiculous claim like that.
Toronto is the definition of a treadmill team. The Raptors are in the playoffs without a superstar.
Toronto lost Kawhi and still went further in the playoffs than the Sixers in 2020......Sixers got swept by the Celtics in the 1st round while the Raptors took them to 7 games.
if anything the Sixers are the treadmilling team, and that tag will stick to them until they get past the 2nd round
This guy has no idea what treadmiing really means, he uses his own made up definition nothing to do with the original intent of the term
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Cubbies2120 wrote:eyeatoma wrote:Cubbies2120 wrote:
I think he's referring to the illegal elbows Embiid was throwing at people...
Nothing illagal about those elbows. Get your face out of the way and stop triple teaming, if you don't want that to happen. Have you seen Shaq and what he did to Mutombo in the 2001 Finals. Mutombo's face was Shaq's punching bag.
21 years ago?
Literally all elbows to the face get reviewed for flagrant fouls nowadays, except when Embiid does it lol.
Stop reviewing all other elbows to the face if you're gonna treat one player differently...that's all we ask...
Embiid is a physical player. Reason ya'll are complaining is because the league doesn't have many of them. Embiid gets called for his fair share of flagrants. I know you're down because your golden boy had his ass handed to him by the Warriors. Enjoy your advanced stats MVP.
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nikster wrote:SFour wrote:SelfishPlayer wrote:
Toronto is the definition of a treadmill team. The Raptors are in the playoffs without a superstar.
Toronto lost Kawhi and still went further in the playoffs than the Sixers in 2020......Sixers got swept by the Celtics in the 1st round while the Raptors took them to 7 games.
if anything the Sixers are the treadmilling team, and that tag will stick to them until they get past the 2nd round
This guy has no idea what treadmiing really means, he uses his own made up definition nothing to do with the original intent of the term
I know....treadmilling means a team is stuck in one place...which the Sixers have been doing for how long now, stuck in the 1st/2nd round
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Cubbies2120 wrote:eyeatoma wrote:Cubbies2120 wrote:
I think he's referring to the illegal elbows Embiid was throwing at people...
Nothing illagal about those elbows. Get your face out of the way and stop triple teaming, if you don't want that to happen. Have you seen Shaq and what he did to Mutombo in the 2001 Finals. Mutombo's face was Shaq's punching bag.
21 years ago?
Literally all elbows to the face get reviewed for flagrant fouls nowadays, except when Embiid does it lol.
Stop reviewing all other elbows to the face if you're gonna treat one player differently...that's all we ask...
Dude is clueless defending that elbow Embiid threw, it was a reckless play. He wasn't even being double teamed and it was early in the game, so blaming it on the defensive scheme is a stupid cop out
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eyeatoma wrote:Cubbies2120 wrote:eyeatoma wrote:
Nothing illagal about those elbows. Get your face out of the way and stop triple teaming, if you don't want that to happen. Have you seen Shaq and what he did to Mutombo in the 2001 Finals. Mutombo's face was Shaq's punching bag.
21 years ago?
Literally all elbows to the face get reviewed for flagrant fouls nowadays, except when Embiid does it lol.
Stop reviewing all other elbows to the face if you're gonna treat one player differently...that's all we ask...
Embiid is a physical player. Reason ya'll are complaining is because the league doesn't have many of them. Embiid gets called for his fair share of flagrants. I know you're down because your golden boy had his ass handed to him by the Warriors. Enjoy your advanced stats MVP.
You failed to address my point - Embiid elbows players in the face not once but twice in the same game, in a league where all elbows to the face are reviewed...
I understand that you're an Embiid stan, but you have to understand how this looks to literally 29 other team fanbases?
Look at you already bringing up Jokic since he lives rent free in your head
Since you brought up Jokic, at the end of the year they'll both have the same # of rings, same # of finals MVP's, but Jokic will have two MVP trophies in his trophy case
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nikster wrote:Cubbies2120 wrote:eyeatoma wrote:
Nothing illagal about those elbows. Get your face out of the way and stop triple teaming, if you don't want that to happen. Have you seen Shaq and what he did to Mutombo in the 2001 Finals. Mutombo's face was Shaq's punching bag.
21 years ago?
Literally all elbows to the face get reviewed for flagrant fouls nowadays, except when Embiid does it lol.
Stop reviewing all other elbows to the face if you're gonna treat one player differently...that's all we ask...
Dude is clueless defending that elbow Embiid threw, it was a reckless play. He wasn't even being double teamed and it was early in the game, so blaming it on the defensive scheme is a stupid cop out
I can't find the one you were talking about but I watched the whole game, and didn't see what he did that was so wrong. Can you please link the one you mentioned?
For the one he had a flagrant called on him for...
Let's see, Embiid was going for the ball. Stop bitching about this. Embiid got posterized by John Collins last year in the playoffs, and Collins choked out Embiid. NOthing from anyone about that.
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nikster wrote:Cubbies2120 wrote:eyeatoma wrote:
Nothing illagal about those elbows. Get your face out of the way and stop triple teaming, if you don't want that to happen. Have you seen Shaq and what he did to Mutombo in the 2001 Finals. Mutombo's face was Shaq's punching bag.
21 years ago?
Literally all elbows to the face get reviewed for flagrant fouls nowadays, except when Embiid does it lol.
Stop reviewing all other elbows to the face if you're gonna treat one player differently...that's all we ask...
Dude is clueless defending that elbow Embiid threw, it was a reckless play. He wasn't even being double teamed and it was early in the game, so blaming it on the defensive scheme is a stupid cop out
Yep, it's rather sad. I wonder if he's got posters in his room
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Cubbies2120 wrote:eyeatoma wrote:Cubbies2120 wrote:
21 years ago?
Literally all elbows to the face get reviewed for flagrant fouls nowadays, except when Embiid does it lol.
Stop reviewing all other elbows to the face if you're gonna treat one player differently...that's all we ask...
Embiid is a physical player. Reason ya'll are complaining is because the league doesn't have many of them. Embiid gets called for his fair share of flagrants. I know you're down because your golden boy had his ass handed to him by the Warriors. Enjoy your advanced stats MVP.
You failed to address my point - Embiid elbows players in the face not once but twice in the same game, in a league where all elbows to the face are reviewed...
I understand that you're an Embiid stan, but you have to understand how this looks to literally 29 other team fanbases?
Look at you already bringing up Jokic since he lives rent free in your headmeanwhile Embiid was the 4th best player on the Sixers last night coasting to a win...must be nice to be the 4th best player getting carried to a win while scoring 50% of your points at the line
Since you brought up Jokic, at the end of the year they'll both have the same # of rings, same # of finals MVP's, but Jokic will have two MVP trophies in his trophy caseAnd that's with Embiid having the easiest route of all the contenders in the East (only has to play ONE of the Bucks/Celtics/Nets) since they duke it out. Perks of falling to the 4 seed I guess?
If it was intentional, and a non basketball move it should be reviewed. Many of the times Embiid inadvertently hurts someone, is because he's too big and too strong. It's bound to happen. Not sure what you're looking for here.
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timO wrote:Appostis wrote:pingpongrac wrote:
How did you come to the conclusion that "4/5 playing great"? Siakam had his lowest rebound total of the season and scored most of his points in the 2nd half when the game was already starting to slip away. FVV was saddled with 2 quick fouls which affected his entire game because he couldn't be near as aggressive yet he still fouled out early in the 4th. OG had 8 of his 20 points in garbage time and he was shooting 5/10 with 12 points and 1 turnover before the 4th. GTJ was 2/11 from the field and Achiuwa was 3/9 from the field while Boucher fouled out in 15 minutes.
Those are hardly "great" games. GTJ and Achiuwa were terrible, Siakam and FVV played below average games and Boucher and Birch were pretty good in limited minutes while OG was slightly above average. The only Raptor to have a great game was Barnes. He likely would have had a triple-double in his first career playoff game.
He's delusional. That's how.
What player had a great game? The one cut short by rickless play by Embiid?
so 24-7-3-3 and 0 TO is playing bad 50%FG![]()
on the RS he averages 23-8-5-0-1 and 3 TO
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Yes...you're delusional.
Read what you posted and try again.
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eyeatoma wrote:Cubbies2120 wrote:Sixerscan wrote:If you don’t want Embiid to manhandle you don’t cover him with guys a half foot shorter than him and are giving up like 50 pounds?
I think he's referring to the illegal elbows Embiid was throwing at people...
Nothing illagal about those elbows. Get your face out of the way and stop triple teaming, if you don't want that to happen. Have you seen Shaq and what he did to Mutombo in the 2001 Finals. Mutombo's face was Shaq's punching bag.
It's not the same NBA as back then though, I guarantee someone just standing with their hands up, and a post player just jumping into them and making a layup wouldn't have been a foul in 2001.
This league's foul calls are too subjective and extremely soft. So many possessions it felt like just standing in front of Embiid is a foul.
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This is such a tired argument. Like who are you complaining to. If you have such a problem with it you should write to the league office. Is the league had an issue with it they would have created new rules to prevent it like with Trae Young and Harden.
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aj174 wrote:eyeatoma wrote:Cubbies2120 wrote:
I think he's referring to the illegal elbows Embiid was throwing at people...
Nothing illagal about those elbows. Get your face out of the way and stop triple teaming, if you don't want that to happen. Have you seen Shaq and what he did to Mutombo in the 2001 Finals. Mutombo's face was Shaq's punching bag.
It's not the same NBA as back then though, I guarantee someone just standing with their hands up, and a post player just jumping into them and making a layup wouldn't have been a foul in 2001.
This league's foul calls are too subjective and extremely soft. So many possessions it felt like just standing in front of Embiid is a foul.
I've been saying this the entire year. He's officiated differently...look at this soft foul
People that think he could hang in the early 2000's brutal post game...y'all wild lol
https://imgur.com/a/p4w4nJj
BOUCHER SHOULD BE EJECTED FOR THAT BRUTAL FOUL!!
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