2024 Olympic BASKETBALL Thread (Pt. 2: Let the Games Begin!)

[durden_tyler]

Top 2 are “protected” from random draw.


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Oh... ok, sorry guys. That system makes sense, i thought it was complete random. That is way better

That said, i do not think USA should care who they draw anyway, but ok, there is a reason why they would care about plus minus.

Nobody is protected from random draw. There will be 4 pots
The best 2 first placed teams are in pot 1
The other first placed team and the best 2nd placed team in pot 2
The other second placed teams are in pot 3
3rd placed teams are in pot 4

With how strong group A is, playing a 3rd placed team is not necessarily a good thing, but it's worth a shot to go against the other 3rd placed team.

For Team USA it is important the 3rd team in their group doesn't get through, otherwise they are guaranteed to play to other 3rd placed team.

The knockout rounds begin with eight teams in the quarterfinals. A random draw will determine the matchups for the quarterfinals, with two important caveats:

The two highest-ranked teams will be placed in the same pot and therefore end up on opposite sides of the bracket.
Teams from the same group can't be drawn against each other in the quarterfinals.


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[UcanUwill]

Does Jokic ever dominate in FIBA/Olympic basketball?

He played great today.

He was 1 of 6 from three with 4 turnovers.

His first half was amazing, and he tried to bail out his team with few last second semi prayers that didnt hit. Second half the whole Serbian team looked bad.

But to answer your question, I would say Bogdan outshined Jokic in few FIBA tournaments.

[Tor_Raps]

Tatum is a top 6 player in the league and he's relegated to waterboy/cheerleading? That's messed up man.

Tatum is not a top 6 player... he's just been lucky to have stacked squads his whole career. Put him into situations players around him are in and he'd be a consensus top 15 player instead... still really good but not elite.

[durden_tyler]

Oh... ok, sorry guys. That system makes sense, i thought it was complete random. That is way better

That said, i do not think USA should care who they draw anyway, but ok, there is a reason why they would care about plus minus.

Nobody is protected from random draw. There will be 4 pots
The best 2 first placed teams are in pot 1
The other first placed team and the best 2nd placed team in pot 2
The other second placed teams are in pot 3
3rd placed teams are in pot 4

With how strong group A is, playing a 3rd placed team is not necessarily a good thing, but it's worth a shot to go against the other 3rd placed team.

For Team USA it is important the 3rd team in their group doesn't get through, otherwise they are guaranteed to play to other 3rd placed team.

The knockout rounds begin with eight teams in the quarterfinals. A random draw will determine the matchups for the quarterfinals, with two important caveats:

The two highest-ranked teams will be placed in the same pot and therefore end up on opposite sides of the bracket.
Teams from the same group can't be drawn against each other in the quarterfinals.


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From FIBA.


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[SelfishPlayer]

He played great today.

He was 1 of 6 from three with 4 turnovers.

And had 20 points (8-15 FGs), 5 rebounds and 8 assists and was a net neutral in a game his team lost by 26.

He played absolutely nothing like the best player in the world.

[Heat3]

Now do Embiid against Jokic the last 3 times they played in the NBA.

Embiid was lucky he was traded by Cameroon to France and by France to USA.

I can’t imagine if SGA went on the record and said “I’d rather play for Canada but the US has a better chance of winning and I want to win”.

Embiid could have talked Siakam into playing and they would have made the Olympics. He had a great chance of changing his narrative, but here we are.

He’s a US citizen. Why is there any question about him playing for team USA? It’s a ridiculous narrative to criticize the guy for.

[CobraCommander]

man, the player hating and trolling in this thread is worthy of a gold medal.

[DarkAzcura]

Tatum is a top 6 player in the league and he's relegated to waterboy/cheerleading? That's messed up man.

Tatum is not a top 6 player... he's just been lucky to have stacked squads his whole career. Put him into situations players around him are in and he'd be a consensus top 15 player instead... still really good but not elite.

This narrative is so funny to me. Tatum and Brown are pretty much the only continuity on all of their deep playoff teams, yet Tatum is always on a stacked team despite his advanced stats and raw stats saying otherwise.

Yes, this Celtics’ team had a lot of talent, but the Celtics aren’t a great team without Tatum. I’m not sure they are even a top 4 seed without Tatum.

Half this forum barely thought Brown was an all star, Porzingis was trash before the Celtics, Horford is old, Holiday/White are role players. Now they are super stacked all of a sudden, lmao.

You don’t make 3 straight first team all NBA teams by accident or because your team is stacked.

[SelfishPlayer]

He played great today.

He was 1 of 6 from three with 4 turnovers.

His first half was amazing, and he tried to bail out his team with few last second semi prayers that didnt hit. Second half the whole Serbian team looked bad.

But to answer your question, I would say Bogdan outshined Jokic in few FIBA tournaments.

I was looking forward to Jokic looking like the best player on planet Earth, but instead I seen the typical game he has against Joel Embiid.

[reload141]

Tatum is a top 6 player in the league and he's relegated to waterboy/cheerleading? That's messed up man.

Tatum is not a top 6 player... he's just been lucky to have stacked squads his whole career. Put him into situations players around him are in and he'd be a consensus top 15 player instead... still really good but not elite.

This narrative is so funny to me. Tatum and Brown are pretty much the only continuity on all of their deep playoff teams, yet Tatum is always on a stacked team despite his advanced stats and raw stats saying otherwise.

Yes, this Celtics’ team had a lot of talent, but the Celtics aren’t a great team without Tatum. I’m not sure they are even a top 4 seed without Tatum.

Mate, don’t bother they are just trolling and actually have no idea about basketball

[thebigbird]

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[durden_tyler]

Top 2 are “protected” from random draw.


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Oh... ok, sorry guys. That system makes sense, i thought it was complete random. That is way better

That said, i do not think USA should care who they draw anyway, but ok, there is a reason why they would care about plus minus.

Nobody is protected from random draw. There will be 4 pots
The best 2 first placed teams are in pot 1
The other first placed team and the best 2nd placed team in pot 2
The other second placed teams are in pot 3
3rd placed teams are in pot 4

With how strong group A is, playing a 3rd placed team is not necessarily a good thing, but it's worth a shot to go against the other 3rd placed team.

For Team USA it is important the 3rd team in their group doesn't get through, otherwise they are guaranteed to play to other 3rd placed team.

Can you provide scenarios please, it’s confusing but your specific pot descriptions make sense so thank you. It validates though that the pt differential matters because you don’t want to drop to tier/pots if you lost a tiebreak.


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[Sgt Major]

He was 1 of 6 from three with 4 turnovers.

His first half was amazing, and he tried to bail out his team with few last second semi prayers that didnt hit. Second half the whole Serbian team looked bad.

But to answer your question, I would say Bogdan outshined Jokic in few FIBA tournaments.

I was looking forward to Jokic looking like the best player on planet Earth, but instead I seen the typical game he has against Joel Embiid.

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[Tor_Raps]

Why are Lebron and jokic still hanging around in garbage time here?

cause points matter for standings

You guys really think USA can drop games in this group and point dif will matter? Come on

Points will matter when they get ranked against potential 3-0 teams from other groups in the Quarter Finals.

[eyeatoma]

Embiid was lucky he was traded by Cameroon to France and by France to USA.

I can’t imagine if SGA went on the record and said “I’d rather play for Canada but the US has a better chance of winning and I want to win”.

Embiid could have talked Siakam into playing and they would have made the Olympics. He had a great chance of changing his narrative, but here we are.

He’s a US citizen. Why is there any question about him playing for team USA? It’s a ridiculous narrative to criticize the guy for.

Yup. Yet it's all you see on here. State of America and the world man.

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[chudak]

Embiid was lucky he was traded by Cameroon to France and by France to USA.

I can’t imagine if SGA went on the record and said “I’d rather play for Canada but the US has a better chance of winning and I want to win”.

Embiid could have talked Siakam into playing and they would have made the Olympics. He had a great chance of changing his narrative, but here we are.

He’s a US citizen. Why is there any question about him playing for team USA? It’s a ridiculous narrative to criticize the guy for.

He said himself he wanted to play for Cameroon, than he commited to France and then just said he will do US because they are better.

No one is saying he cant chose USA as US citizen, but the bad sentiment is self inflicted

[eyeatoma]

Lol twitter going crazy tonight.

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[Tor_Raps]

I'm honestly shocked that so many people in this thread think Booker is a better player than Tatum

No one thinks that... Booker is a better catch and shoot player than Tatum and that's what the starting lineup needs more. Moot point anyways since Durant is gonna take his spot in the starting lineup lol.

[reload141]

I can’t imagine if SGA went on the record and said “I’d rather play for Canada but the US has a better chance of winning and I want to win”.

Embiid could have talked Siakam into playing and they would have made the Olympics. He had a great chance of changing his narrative, but here we are.

He’s a US citizen. Why is there any question about him playing for team USA? It’s a ridiculous narrative to criticize the guy for.

Yup. Yet it's all you see on here. State of America and the world man.

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Can’t criticize the guy for wanting an easy win in a team sport when he can’t do it in the NBA and just makes excuse after excuse. It’s good for him, winning something

[UcanUwill]

He was 1 of 6 from three with 4 turnovers.

His first half was amazing, and he tried to bail out his team with few last second semi prayers that didnt hit. Second half the whole Serbian team looked bad.

But to answer your question, I would say Bogdan outshined Jokic in few FIBA tournaments.

I was looking forward to Jokic looking like the best player on planet Earth, but instead I seen the typical game he has against Joel Embiid.

Jokic controlled the whole game until he had to sit, USA made their first real run during Milutinov minutes. Jokic was great, but he and his team didnt maintain the tempo. He was probably still most impactfull guy there except for Durant. Bron and Stepth were slso very impactfull, USA got very easy looks just from Stepth decoy, Serbia tried so hard to not lose him, they lost couple other guys multiple times. That Jrue wide open lay up was good example.

Jokic, KD, Bron and Stepth all showed class. White was good. Embiid was terrible, Micic and Jovic missed shots they needed to hit.