NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (Part 4: MVP Thread's Revenge)

[HotRocks34]

Here are the odds coming into the Sunday 3/24 games.

[BelgradeNugget]

I remember 2022, when Suns were over confident after great RS and were humiliated by Mavs in playoffs. I wouldn't be too surprised if something similar happens this year with Nuggets. Mavs have for sure much better team than in 2022.

Luka's father was born in Slovenia to Slovenian mother and is still living in Slovenia. But in the end Luka knows exactly what he's is and plays for his country. Srbija od Beograda do Tokia je klasicna prica za malu djecu, a i oni vise ne veruju u te price. Bar Kinezi vole Beograd.

For Mavs to have a chance to beat Denver in the playoffs they first have to qualify for it through play-inn. And yes, every now and then 8th team beats 1st. It is not unheared of, only rare.

It is great Djokovic's mother is Croat, Luka Dončić's mother is Slovenian I love it. I just don't know what do you have against the fact that Saša Dončić father (Luka's grandfather) was from Kosovo and his name is Srbobran. But that is your problem and not for this forum.

That would make Luka 1/4 Srb? Luka said many times that he's Slovenian and he plays for Slovenia, only Srbs have problem with that.

Look, Mavs have tie-break with Suns, so they're 6th, if they win next game. And here you have remaining schedule strength. Suns the most difficult, totally brutal, Kings 3rd most difficult, Clippers 9th, Pelicans 10th and Mavs 21th. Sure - anything can happen, but Mavs are having everything in their hands.

https://www.tankathon.com/remaining_schedule_strength

Of course Luka is Slovenian and he plays for Slovenia nobody has problem with this. It looks like you are the only one having problem with his Serbian roots.
But for this forum, and it is an NBA forum to remin you, he is first and foremost Dallas Maverick, leader of his nice little team, that has a chance to qualify for playoffs if they are lucky enough to avoid play-inn.
And yes, somewhere in the distant future Luka has a chance to be MVP. Maybe...

[Bob8]

For Mavs to have a chance to beat Denver in the playoffs they first have to qualify for it through play-inn. And yes, every now and then 8th team beats 1st. It is not unheared of, only rare.

It is great Djokovic's mother is Croat, Luka Dončić's mother is Slovenian I love it. I just don't know what do you have against the fact that Saša Dončić father (Luka's grandfather) was from Kosovo and his name is Srbobran. But that is your problem and not for this forum.

That would make Luka 1/4 Srb? Luka said many times that he's Slovenian and he plays for Slovenia, only Srbs have problem with that.

Look, Mavs have tie-break with Suns, so they're 6th, if they win next game. And here you have remaining schedule strength. Suns the most difficult, totally brutal, Kings 3rd most difficult, Clippers 9th, Pelicans 10th and Mavs 21th. Sure - anything can happen, but Mavs are having everything in their hands.

https://www.tankathon.com/remaining_schedule_strength

Of course Luka is Slovenian and he plays for Slovenia nobody has problem with this. It looks like you are the only one having problem with his Serbian roots.
But for this forum, and it is an NBA forum to remin you, he is first and foremost Dallas Maverick, leader of his nice little team, that has a chance to qualify for playoffs if they are lucky enough to avoid play-inn.
And yes, somewhere in the distant future Luka has a chance to be MVP. Maybe...

Looking at their latest results, taking in consideration that they are finally healthy after having enormous injury problems and their schedule, they don't need luck.

Listening how everyone is Serb is kinda exhausting.

[Sgt Major]

Listening how everyone is Serb is kinda exhausting.

Weren't you the one who started that in this topic?

[sunsbg]

I remember 2022, when Suns were over confident after great RS and were humiliated by Mavs in playoffs. I wouldn't be too surprised if something similar happens this year with Nuggets. Mavs have for sure much better team than in 2022.

I remember 2022, when Mavs beat Suns with 37yo injured CP3, became overconfident and ended in the lottery next season. Murray is kinda injury prone too so I agree there is a chance you get lucky again.

Sounds like Luka is at least 1/4 Serbian ethnically. He's still 100% Slovenian nationality-wise. It's not that hard to understand.

I know you are praying for 6th seed, but there is a good chance Pelicans slip and Mavs end playing Clippers in 1st round, Nuggets in 2nd. Both will be very good series and rather entertaining.

[Bob8]

Listening how everyone is Serb is kinda exhausting.

Weren't you the one who started that in this topic?

No. I have In mind Jokic and BelgradeNugget.

[Bob8]

I remember 2022, when Suns were over confident after great RS and were humiliated by Mavs in playoffs. I wouldn't be too surprised if something similar happens this year with Nuggets. Mavs have for sure much better team than in 2022.

I remember 2022, when Mavs beat Suns with 37yo injured CP3, became overconfident and ended in the lottery next season. Murray is kinda injury prone too so I agree there is a chance you get lucky again.

Sounds like Luka is at least 1/4 Serbian ethnically. He's still 100% Slovenian nationality-wise. It's not that hard to understand.

I know you are praying for 6th seed, but there is a good chance Pelicans slip and Mavs end playing Clippers in 1st round, Nuggets in 2nd. Both will be very good series and rather entertaining.

Many Serbs don't understand. You should hear crying after 2017 Eurobasket.

Mavs ending in lottery was the only solution after Brunson fiasco.

I would say that Mavs singlehanded ending pretty great Suns' future. From the most promising team to very old and without FRPs after this n debacle.

[sunsbg]

:wink:

I remember 2022, when Suns were over confident after great RS and were humiliated by Mavs in playoffs. I wouldn't be too surprised if something similar happens this year with Nuggets. Mavs have for sure much better team than in 2022.

I remember 2022, when Mavs beat Suns with 37yo injured CP3, became overconfident and ended in the lottery next season. Murray is kinda injury prone too so I agree there is a chance you get lucky again.

Sounds like Luka is at least 1/4 Serbian ethnically. He's still 100% Slovenian nationality-wise. It's not that hard to understand.

I know you are praying for 6th seed, but there is a good chance Pelicans slip and Mavs end playing Clippers in 1st round, Nuggets in 2nd. Both will be very good series and rather entertaining.

Many Serbs don't understand. You should hear crying after 2017 Eurobasket.

Mavs ending in lottery was the only solution after Brunson fiasco.

I would say that Mavs singlehanded ending pretty great Suns' future. From the most promising team to very old and without FRPs after this n debacle.

Mavs didn't end anything. Lol. It was Ishbea though he only replaced a mediocre team after CP3 turned 37 with what seems like another mediocre team. Suns can sign Bridges or someone similar after KD's contract expires for what we know. I'll still take an owner who's all about winning. Whether he learns from his mistakes is yet to be seen. While Mavs have younger talent nobody strikes me as a great player for the future. Kyrie is as undependable as they come and getting older. Mavs can easily end just another average team.

[Sgt Major]

Listening how everyone is Serb is kinda exhausting.

Weren't you the one who started that in this topic?

No. I have In mind Jokic and BelgradeNugget.

He talked about Luka and then you wrote: "But hey, you can ignore everything and believe whatever you want. Srbi su najjaci press" right out of nowhere.

[Bob8]

Weren't you the one who started that in this topic?

No. I have In mind Jokic and BelgradeNugget.

He talked about Luka and then you wrote: "But hey, you can ignore everything and believe whatever you want. Srbi su najjaci press" right out of nowhere.

He talked how Luka and Mavs are bad. And my answer was, vi ste najjaci.

[Sgt Major]

No. I have In mind Jokic and BelgradeNugget.

He talked about Luka and then you wrote: "But hey, you can ignore everything and believe whatever you want. Srbi su najjaci press" right out of nowhere.

He talked how Luka and Mavs are bad. And my answer was, vi ste najjaci.

Well that was a pointless answer.

[Bob8]

:wink:

I remember 2022, when Mavs beat Suns with 37yo injured CP3, became overconfident and ended in the lottery next season. Murray is kinda injury prone too so I agree there is a chance you get lucky again.

Sounds like Luka is at least 1/4 Serbian ethnically. He's still 100% Slovenian nationality-wise. It's not that hard to understand.

I know you are praying for 6th seed, but there is a good chance Pelicans slip and Mavs end playing Clippers in 1st round, Nuggets in 2nd. Both will be very good series and rather entertaining.

Many Serbs don't understand. You should hear crying after 2017 Eurobasket.

Mavs ending in lottery was the only solution after Brunson fiasco.

I would say that Mavs singlehanded ending pretty great Suns' future. From the most promising team to very old and without FRPs after this n debacle.

Mavs didn't end anything. Lol. It was Ishbea though he only replaced a mediocre team after CP3 turned 37 with what seems like another mediocre team. Suns can sign Bridges or someone similar after KD's contract expires for what we know. I'll still take an owner who's all about winning. Whether he learns from his mistakes is yet to be seen. While Mavs have younger talent nobody strikes me as a great player for the future. Kyrie is as undependable as they come and getting older. Mavs can easily end just another average team.

Suns were far the best team in RS, very young core, and after 1 year only Booker remaind. No way that happens, if they weren't humiliated by the Mavs in game 6 and 7.

Mavs were forced into trading for Kyrie after they didn't sign Brunson and they made great work in this offseason and trade deadline. They finally have solid young core and Kyrie. It won't be enough this year, but few more trades and they can compete. A big difference between this team and team with Dinwiddie, Bullock, DFS and Powell starting. Look at how those 4 starters are doing this year.

[Bob8]

He talked about Luka and then you wrote: "But hey, you can ignore everything and believe whatever you want. Srbi su najjaci press" right out of nowhere.

He talked how Luka and Mavs are bad. And my answer was, vi ste najjaci.

Well that was a pointless answer.

Not, if you understand Serbian state of mind.

[sunsbg]

:wink:

Many Serbs don't understand. You should hear crying after 2017 Eurobasket.

Mavs ending in lottery was the only solution after Brunson fiasco.

I would say that Mavs singlehanded ending pretty great Suns' future. From the most promising team to very old and without FRPs after this n debacle.

Mavs didn't end anything. Lol. It was Ishbea though he only replaced a mediocre team after CP3 turned 37 with what seems like another mediocre team. Suns can sign Bridges or someone similar after KD's contract expires for what we know. I'll still take an owner who's all about winning. Whether he learns from his mistakes is yet to be seen. While Mavs have younger talent nobody strikes me as a great player for the future. Kyrie is as undependable as they come and getting older. Mavs can easily end just another average team.

Suns were far the best team in RS, very young core, and after 1 year only Booker remaind. No way that happens, if they weren't humiliated by the Mavs in game 6 and 7.

Mavs were forced into trading for Kyrie after they didn't sign Brunson and they made great work in this offseason and trade deadline. They finally have solid young core and Kyrie. It won't be enough this year, but few more trades and they can compete. A big difference between this team and team with Dinwiddie, Bullock, DFS and Powell starting. Look at how those 4 starters are doing this year.

Suns being best regular season team doesn't matter when your leader breaks down and is not a starter level player anymore. If they got past Mavs, who they handled pretty well as usual before CP3 became useless, they'd have same fate as Mavs and lose 4-1 at best to Warriors. Ishbea still overpays for Durant. Believe whatever you want though. Apparently you Slovenians know everything.

[Bob8]

Mavs didn't end anything. Lol. It was Ishbea though he only replaced a mediocre team after CP3 turned 37 with what seems like another mediocre team. Suns can sign Bridges or someone similar after KD's contract expires for what we know. I'll still take an owner who's all about winning. Whether he learns from his mistakes is yet to be seen. While Mavs have younger talent nobody strikes me as a great player for the future. Kyrie is as undependable as they come and getting older. Mavs can easily end just another average team.

Suns were far the best team in RS, very young core, and after 1 year only Booker remaind. No way that happens, if they weren't humiliated by the Mavs in game 6 and 7.

Mavs were forced into trading for Kyrie after they didn't sign Brunson and they made great work in this offseason and trade deadline. They finally have solid young core and Kyrie. It won't be enough this year, but few more trades and they can compete. A big difference between this team and team with Dinwiddie, Bullock, DFS and Powell starting. Look at how those 4 starters are doing this year.

Suns being best regular season team doesn't matter when your leader breaks down and is not a starter level player anymore. If they got past Mavs, who they handled pretty well as usual before CP3 became useless, they'd have same fate as Mavs and lose 4-1 at best to Warriors. Ishbea still overpays for Durant. Believe whatever you want though. Apparently you Slovenians know everything.

It were 2 blowouts so I don't think it was just CP3 fault. Don't you think that having a core that made Finals and were far the best team in RS next year is worth building on? Answer was get rid of coach, Ayton all other players and 4 FRPs for ageing star and the worst contract in the league. And now you're fighting for playoffs after having far the easiest schedule in the league.

[AleksandarN]

Mavs are 12/6 after trade deadline.

Tatum?

https://stathead.com/tiny/XVrav

We don't know each other, I don't believe comments about our intelligence is necessary.

Nema polusrba. Da li je Djokovic poluhrvat?

So 12/6 is 6-8 best record in the NBA in that span. Great. If that is something to brag about go to Trades and Transactions forum.

Yes Tatum is candidate as is Giannis, both proved they can lead good teams to NBA finals. Playing great this season. Leading good teams to the top playoff seads.

"Da li je Djokovic poluhrvat?" Da, majka mu je Hrvatica, divno. Ako ljudi hoce da se ponose sa uspesima njihovih sunarodnika Hrvati treba da se ponose Djokovicem kao sto se Slovenci ponose Lukom.

I remember 2022, when Suns were over confident after great RS and were humiliated by Mavs in playoffs. I wouldn't be too surprised if something similar happens this year with Nuggets. Mavs have for sure much better team than in 2022.

Luka's father was born in Slovenia to Slovenian mother and is still living in Slovenia. But in the end Luka knows exactly what he's and is playing for his country. Srbija od Beograda do Tokia je klasicna prica za malu djecu, a i oni vise ne veruju u te price. Bar Kinezi vole Beograd.

Compare the suns to Denver is a joke. Especially considering the Suns are known as playoff chokers. Where as Denver is known for their mental fortitude.

[Bob8]

So 12/6 is 6-8 best record in the NBA in that span. Great. If that is something to brag about go to Trades and Transactions forum.

Yes Tatum is candidate as is Giannis, both proved they can lead good teams to NBA finals. Playing great this season. Leading good teams to the top playoff seads.

"Da li je Djokovic poluhrvat?" Da, majka mu je Hrvatica, divno. Ako ljudi hoce da se ponose sa uspesima njihovih sunarodnika Hrvati treba da se ponose Djokovicem kao sto se Slovenci ponose Lukom.

I remember 2022, when Suns were over confident after great RS and were humiliated by Mavs in playoffs. I wouldn't be too surprised if something similar happens this year with Nuggets. Mavs have for sure much better team than in 2022.

Luka's father was born in Slovenia to Slovenian mother and is still living in Slovenia. But in the end Luka knows exactly what he's and is playing for his country. Srbija od Beograda do Tokia je klasicna prica za malu djecu, a i oni vise ne veruju u te price. Bar Kinezi vole Beograd.

Compare the suns to Denver is a joke. Especially considering the Suns are known as playoff chokers. Where as Denver is known for their mental fortitude.

Do you remember Suns in that season? They were in Finals 1 year before and have won RS by 8 games. They were clear favourites to win it all.

Nuggets would be big favourites against Mavs for sure, but Mavs having some outside chance with much bigger front court than before.

[AleksandarN]

No. I have In mind Jokic and BelgradeNugget.

He talked about Luka and then you wrote: "But hey, you can ignore everything and believe whatever you want. Srbi su najjaci press" right out of nowhere.

He talked how Luka and Mavs are bad. And my answer was, vi ste najjaci.

Stop it with the foreign language. This is an English form. The only reason you used another language was to troll. Stop that garbage. Talk about MVP not bringing up nationalities to sidetrack this thread

[Bob8]

He talked about Luka and then you wrote: "But hey, you can ignore everything and believe whatever you want. Srbi su najjaci press" right out of nowhere.

He talked how Luka and Mavs are bad. And my answer was, vi ste najjaci.

Stop it with the foreign language. This is an English form. The only reason you used another language was to troll. Stop that garbage. Talk about MVP not bringing up nationalities to sidetrack this thread

Are you moderator?

[AleksandarN]

I remember 2022, when Suns were over confident after great RS and were humiliated by Mavs in playoffs. I wouldn't be too surprised if something similar happens this year with Nuggets. Mavs have for sure much better team than in 2022.

Luka's father was born in Slovenia to Slovenian mother and is still living in Slovenia. But in the end Luka knows exactly what he's and is playing for his country. Srbija od Beograda do Tokia je klasicna prica za malu djecu, a i oni vise ne veruju u te price. Bar Kinezi vole Beograd.

Compare the suns to Denver is a joke. Especially considering the Suns are known as playoff chokers. Where as Denver is known for their mental fortitude.

Do you remember Suns in that season? They were in Finals 1 year before and have won RS by 8 games. They were clear favourites to win it all.

Nuggets would be big favourites against Mavs for sure, but Mavs for sure having some outside chance.

The Suns were a mentally weak team. Not even close to the Nuggets mentality. You make it sound like that the Nuggets are in the same as the Suns. When that’s further from the truth.