2018/19 ROY/Rookie Discussion Thread (Pt 2)

[islanders11040]

Trae with another double-double today with a 26/10 game! 10 Rebounds though, which is a new high for him. Continues to show improvement.

He's so good at selling contact. Gonna be key to his efficiency.

[Duke4life831]

Knox looks like the next Jabari Parker. Might actually be worse defensively.

This is way off. He has the size length and athleticism to be a plus defender down the road. Most of his issues on that end are strength and experience related.

Well he has the worst rpm amoung forwards in the league and a negative win share. He is very good at creating his own shot but he really does have a lot to work on still, including efficiency. He scored thirty yeah but he played 44 minutes and took what, 24 shots? Also didn't have one assist in the game(5% assist % on the season) He would benifit greatly by NY upgraded their pg position.

This is also way off and reads like its from someone who's trying to judge a player off statistics alone. He's actually not that good at creating his own shot, at this point he gets most of his points off catch and shoots, attacking close outs and transition.

To be fair, Jabari was the better athlete and longer than Knox. He has/had all the tools as well but never improved. With that said I dont think Knox will follow Jabari's defensive trajectory.

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My goodness when he develop go to moves he’s going to be a huge player. Hitting that James Harden step back to get the 30 piece. His ability to the hoop and his shot is beautiful.

Btw shout out to Luke Kornet. Future bright in New York.

I like Knox, but is this really thread worthy? 6 youngest player to score 30? Like really? How is this even note worthy?

Booker was the youngest to score 70. That's worthy of a thread, this on the other hand is not.

Playing for the biggest market in the NBA will do that to you. Look at Frank Nilikina or whatever, he was hailed the next big thing last year, and hasn't improved a bit.

[nytonm]

Knox looks like the next Jabari Parker. Might actually be worse defensively.

This is way off. He has the size length and athleticism to be a plus defender down the road. Most of his issues on that end are strength and experience related.

Well he has the worst rpm amoung forwards in the league and a negative win share. He is very good at creating his own shot but he really does have a lot to work on still, including efficiency. He scored thirty yeah but he played 44 minutes and took what, 24 shots? Also didn't have one assist in the game(5% assist % on the season) He would benifit greatly by NY upgraded their pg position.

This is also way off and reads like its from someone who's trying to judge a player off statistics alone. He's actually not that good at creating his own shot, at this point he gets most of his points off catch and shoots, attacking close outs and transition.

To be fair, Jabari was the better athlete and longer than Knox. He has/had all the tools as well but never improved. With that said I dont think Knox will follow Jabari's defensive trajectory.

Looking at their combine data, their height and wingspans are exactly the same actually (both 6'9 in shoes with 6'11.75 wingspans)And I disagree that Parker is a better athlete than Knox. Parkers a thicker slower guy, he never had the lateral quickness to guard 3's and I don't think that's Knox's issue.

[Duke4life831]

This is way off. He has the size length and athleticism to be a plus defender down the road. Most of his issues on that end are strength and experience related.



This is also way off and reads like its from someone who's trying to judge a player off statistics alone. He's actually not that good at creating his own shot, at this point he gets most of his points off catch and shoots, attacking close outs and transition.

To be fair, Jabari was the better athlete and longer than Knox. He has/had all the tools as well but never improved. With that said I dont think Knox will follow Jabari's defensive trajectory.

Looking at their combine data, their height and wingspans are exactly the same actually (both 6'9 in shoes with 6'11.75 wingspans)And I disagree that Parker is a better athlete than Knox. Parkers a thicker slower guy, he never had the lateral quickness to guard 3's and I don't think that's Knox's issue.

Jabari didnt attend the combine, so I dont know what measurements youre looking at. All measurements I see for Jabari is 7 feet or 7'1. But again that doesnt really change my point even if theyre identical. Athleticism has never been Jabari's issues, whether its lateral or explosion or whatever. The dude is a phenomenal athlete. He just never cared at all about his defense.

Again Im not saying Knox isnt going to end up a better defender than Jabari, Im sure he is. All Im saying is his size and athleticism alone doesnt point to him being a plus defender down the road. Andrew Wiggins is another example of another guy that is longer and a better athlete and is another guy that is a horrible defender.

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Looked like the next big thing in preseason.

Surprised at the lack of buzz given he's playing in the biggest market.

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Well he has the worst rpm amoung forwards in the league and a negative win share. He is very good at creating his own shot but he really does have a lot to work on still, including efficiency. He scored thirty yeah but he played 44 minutes and took what, 24 shots? Also didn't have one assist in the game(5% assist % on the season) He would benifit greatly by NY upgraded their pg position.

He’s not good at creating.. he has some moments sure but his bread and butter right now is getting to the rim, catching and shooting and very effective with his floater. He needs to continue to improve his handles and defense. He”s actually starting to show good defensive instincts but he”s kind of slow footed at times.

I can see his assists improving as he continues to develop. He shares the ball and plays in the flow he’s just not at that point where he can create and see the floor like that but i see a big improvement from earlier in the season where he would just straight up jack shots he plays much smarter and under control now the games slowed down a lot for him.

[Fat]

100 percent satisfied with getting Knox at the 9th pick he has potential to better than where he was selected

He’s playing better than I expected so far, i thought he’d have a really rough freshman year but he’s exceeding expectations.

[Oscirus]

Nice game but my God the NBA comes up with some of the most useless "achievements", 6th youngest player to score 30 in a game is just random.

Knox also became the second youngest player ever to get 0 assists playing at least 44 minutes in a game. Only Dwight Howard achieved this feat at a younger age.

And? The highest assist total by any knick was 6, the knicks suck and didnt have 3 of their starters.

Also lol at those that say a 7'1 wingspan is low for a small forward.

[Duke4life831]

Is Luka the most exciting perimeter rookie since KD? The dude is just so fun to watch and looks to have all the makings of a legit phenom.

[Oscar9992]

Trae also played very good... 26 Pts, 11 Rebs & 4 Assists

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I mean...

[Goudelock]

Seriously though, it seems like every highly touted rookie has been playing at a high level recently.

[Oscar9992]

Agree... Seems like all rookies playing good lately.

[cool007]

Happy for him. I thought Wendell Carter had 30pts vs Pistons back in November at also same age basically but I was wrong. He had 28 points and was playing damn good but Bulls coaches just suck. Here you see Knox playing 43 minutes when he is playing good while Wendell got only 29 mintues when he was playing damn good and had a career high early in the young rookie season.

Knox is going to be good.

[Klayforspicy]

When he fills out his body he’ll have the tools to be a great

[pagal]

"He's 19!!!"

Happy for the Knicks fans, he seems special.

[nolang1]

How come Harden and now Knox can get away with that double step back but Steph got called for a travel?

I mean, it's literally one play. Take a chill pill.

[Clyde Frazier]

How come Harden and now Knox can get away with that double step back but Steph got called for a travel?

you need to watch it multiple times each time someone does it. sometimes it's a travel and sometimes it isn't.

[Clyde Frazier]

Knox looks like the next Jabari Parker. Might actually be worse defensively.

...yeah because all one and done rookies are fully developed half way into their rookie years.

[zimpy27]

Doncic really is incredible