Lakers no longer require extension from Dwight Howard

wilhelmthe1st · Post #161 » by **wilhelmthe1st** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 5:05 am

sabi wrote:Lol lakers are assembling a team to win it all next season
dwight
dirk
who gives a crap
kobe
nash

Are we trading Pau Gasol for Dirk now? LOL ok

gino_giode · Post #162 » by **gino_giode** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:10 am

If Lakers get Dwight after the whole history with Shaq, Hennigan should be fired. Don't care if it's the only option that returns value, it's the principle that sickens me.

Seralin · Post #163 » by **Seralin** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:32 am

If Dwight gets traded to Lakers, there is no way he would make the decision of leaving for another team. No more Nets, no more Magic, and who else is out there?

Lakers should send Gasol for young players and picks, and package some of those with Bynum to Magic.

OneWhoKnocks · Post #164 » by **OneWhoKnocks** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:33 am

Seralin wrote:If Dwight gets traded to Lakers, there is no way he would make the decision of leaving for another team. No more Nets, no more Magic, and who else is out there?

Lakers should send Gasol for young players and picks, and package some of those with Bynum to Magic.

Hawks? Mavs? Remember btw Atlanta is his hometown and apparently Mavs were his second choice if he couldn't go to Brooklyn.

[The-Warriors] · Post #165 » by **[The-Warriors]** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:47 am

Shaheen wrote:Why do Lakers fans feel so entitled to Dwight? "Its inevitable." "The writing is on the wall."

Just because you arguably have a better offer doesn't mean ****. Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers. And thats a major obstacle.

Last year the Nets had a much better offer than the Knicks for Carmelo but who got him? The Knicks. Because Carmelo never wanted to play for the Nets. And Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers.

I'm not saying you're not getting him. Just stop saying its automatic. It only make you guys look worse and you will get embarrassed if you're wrong.

YOu must be Dwight Howard's new agent.

Seralin · Post #166 » by **Seralin** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:52 am

OneWhoKnocks wrote:
Seralin wrote:If Dwight gets traded to Lakers, there is no way he would make the decision of leaving for another team. No more Nets, no more Magic, and who else is out there?

Lakers should send Gasol for young players and picks, and package some of those with Bynum to Magic.

Hawks? Mavs? Remember btw Atlanta is his hometown and apparently Mavs were his second choice if he couldn't go to Brooklyn.

He won't play with the Hawks unless they get Paul, and with all the good things Clippers are doing the likelihood of him leaving for Atlanta is very low. And Mavericks, I doubt it. Howard wanted Mavs because of the possibility of playing with Deron there. Now, that won't happen. Nowitzki will be a year older, and it will be a team deserted by its key players.

FullCircle · Post #167 » by **FullCircle** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:54 am

Shaheen wrote:Why do Lakers fans feel so entitled to Dwight? "Its inevitable." "The writing is on the wall."

Just because you arguably have a better offer doesn't mean ****. Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers. And thats a major obstacle.

I think you missed the point of this thread. The Lakers don't give a s*** that Howard said he doesn't want to play here. Orlando clearly doesn't care. The Lakers are willing to gamble, and if they're going all in, the Magic will be happy to take the Lakers deal, which happens to be the best offer. The Magic are the ones hoping the Lakers acquiesce to signing Howard without an extension. It's there if the Lakers want it. If it doesn't happen, it's because the Lakers said no, it really has little do to with the Magic at this point.

kblo247 · Post #168 » by **kblo247** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:00 am

Shaheen wrote:Why do Lakers fans feel so entitled to Dwight? "Its inevitable." "The writing is on the wall."

Just because you arguably have a better offer doesn't mean ****. Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers. And thats a major obstacle.

Last year the Nets had a much better offer than the Knicks for Carmelo but who got him? The Knicks. Because Carmelo never wanted to play for the Nets. And Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers.

I'm not saying you're not getting him. Just stop saying its automatic. It only make you guys look worse and you will get embarrassed if you're wrong.

Lakers are the Lakers, Nets well are hoping to matter ... Deal with it

So Gutta · Post #169 » by **So Gutta** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:09 am

Pincus doesn't actually know as much as he claims to know. I haven't trusted him for years. He's not an "insider" like Stein, Broussard or Wojnarowski. Until one of those guys report it, it's best to assume that he's just a writer looking for attention, as he's done in the past.

Shaheen · Post #170 » by **Shaheen** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 9:13 am

AmerigoCorleone wrote:
Shaheen wrote:Why do Lakers fans feel so entitled to Dwight? "Its inevitable." "The writing is on the wall."

Just because you have a better offer doesn't mean ****. Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers. And thats a major obstacle.

Last year the Nets had a much better offer than the Knicks for Carmelo but who got him? The Knicks. Because Carmelo never wanted to play for the Nets. And Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers.

I'm not saying you're not getting him. Just stop saying its automatic. It only make you guys look worse and you will get embarrassed if you're wrong.

Shaheen where Drake is the future of Rap happens.

AmerigoCorleone. Where attacking people and drifting from the topic helps make him feel better about himself.

AmerigoCorleone · Post #171 » by **AmerigoCorleone** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 9:15 am

Shaheen wrote:AmerigoCorleone. Where attacking people and drifting from the topic helps make him feel better about himself.

Shaheen where per 36 and assist % are considered "fancy" stats.

Shaheen · Post #172 » by **Shaheen** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 9:16 am

FullCircle wrote:
Shaheen wrote:Why do Lakers fans feel so entitled to Dwight? "Its inevitable." "The writing is on the wall."

Just because you arguably have a better offer doesn't mean ****. Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers. And thats a major obstacle.

I think you missed the point of this thread. The Lakers don't give a s*** that Howard said he doesn't want to play here. Orlando clearly doesn't care. The Lakers are willing to gamble, and if they're going all in, the Magic will be happy to take the Lakers deal, which happens to be the best offer. The Magic are the ones hoping the Lakers acquiesce to signing Howard without an extension. It's there if the Lakers want it. If it doesn't happen, it's because the Lakers said no, it really has little do to with the Magic at this point.

What are you basing this off of?

When has Mitch ever gambled? When does Mitch take major risks to make the Lakers better? He always gets solid deals off of smart decisions.

Billy King is the crazy one who makes ridiculous deals and hopes they turn out well. Theres no reliable source out there saying the Lakers will trade without an extension. Or that Mitch will risk losing Bynum and Howard.

An no you also have to sell Bynum on extending with the Magic because he can just tell you to **** off.

Jajwanda · Post #173 » by **Jajwanda** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 9:18 am

[The-Warriors] wrote:
Shaheen wrote:Why do Lakers fans feel so entitled to Dwight? "Its inevitable." "The writing is on the wall."

Just because you arguably have a better offer doesn't mean ****. Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers. And thats a major obstacle.

Last year the Nets had a much better offer than the Knicks for Carmelo but who got him? The Knicks. Because Carmelo never wanted to play for the Nets. And Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers.

I'm not saying you're not getting him. Just stop saying its automatic. It only make you guys look worse and you will get embarrassed if you're wrong.

YOu must be Dwight Howard's new agent.

Second of all why would we get embarrassed on a message board. Do you think we honestly give a ****?

Shaheen · Post #174 » by **Shaheen** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 9:21 am

microfib4thewin wrote:
Shaheen wrote:Why do Lakers fans feel so entitled to Dwight? "Its inevitable." "The writing is on the wall."

Just because you arguably have a better offer doesn't mean ****. Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers. And thats a major obstacle.

It does actually, thanks to:

1. Dwight opting in.
2. Nets not having capspace.

So the Nets have nothing to threaten the Magic with, they need to entice the Magic to trade Dwight but is coming up short on assets thanks to losing the pick to Portland. If the Nets can't find a way to up their offer either from them or a 3rd team they're not getting Dwight.

If the Lakers want Howard for a year, they can already do that. The Magic already has a team structured for a star center so Bynum wouldn't have a problem integrating there, and they're not going to get anything better than Bynum. Howard can leave, but where is he going to go? Dallas is losing their players left and right and Atlanta fan support has always been questionable. There isn't a slamdunk destination for Dwight if he enters the market.

If Dwight is open to losing that fifth year, then it's fair game. If he really wants that fifth year, then he can only re-sign with the Lakers if he goes there.

As long as someone has cap space you're in trouble.

Unless the Lakers win a championship you are not going to sell him on the far that LA is going to win long term. Because 34 year old Kobe and 38 year old Nash are not getting any better. He knows the Lakers future is tied entirely to those two players and he knows he can easily walk.

Dallas losing all their players means they have all the potential to rebuild. Don't you get it? They can then offer Dwight a CP3/Dwight/Dirk combo. Atlanta can offer Dwight CP3/Dwight/Smith. And other teams will be trying to clear cap space just so Dwight can come over. Everyone wants the best big man in the game.

Don't act like its LA or bust. When FA 2013 comes around old Kobe and Nash are not the most appealing things on the market at all. And Dwight will have plenty of options to look at.

LaLa · Post #175 » by **LaLa** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 9:32 am

Shaheen wrote:
microfib4thewin wrote:
Shaheen wrote:Why do Lakers fans feel so entitled to Dwight? "Its inevitable." "The writing is on the wall."

Just because you arguably have a better offer doesn't mean ****. Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers. And thats a major obstacle.

It does actually, thanks to:

1. Dwight opting in.
2. Nets not having capspace.

So the Nets have nothing to threaten the Magic with, they need to entice the Magic to trade Dwight but is coming up short on assets thanks to losing the pick to Portland. If the Nets can't find a way to up their offer either from them or a 3rd team they're not getting Dwight.

If the Lakers want Howard for a year, they can already do that. The Magic already has a team structured for a star center so Bynum wouldn't have a problem integrating there, and they're not going to get anything better than Bynum. Howard can leave, but where is he going to go? Dallas is losing their players left and right and Atlanta fan support has always been questionable. There isn't a slamdunk destination for Dwight if he enters the market.

If Dwight is open to losing that fifth year, then it's fair game. If he really wants that fifth year, then he can only re-sign with the Lakers if he goes there.

As long as someone has cap space you're in trouble.

Unless the Lakers win a championship you are not going to sell him on the far that LA is going to win long term. Because 34 year old Kobe and 38 year old Nash are not getting any better. He knows the Lakers future is tied entirely to those two players and he knows he can easily walk.

Dallas losing all their players means they have all the potential to rebuild. Don't you get it? They can then offer Dwight a CP3/Dwight/Dirk combo. Atlanta can offer Dwight CP3/Dwight/Smith. And other teams will be trying to clear cap space just so Dwight can come over. Everyone wants the best big man in the game.

Don't act like its LA or bust. When FA 2013 comes around old Kobe and Nash are not the most appealing things on the market at all. And Dwight will have plenty of options to look at.

Great logic lol. So let me get this straight, he would of course go to Dallas where its already a rebuilding process instead of going to the Lakers, potentially winning a chip or 2 then rebuild with a proven franchise. Cmon now, just step away from the keyboard and leave before you make a fool out of yourself even more.

Jajwanda · Post #176 » by **Jajwanda** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 9:52 am

Yes he's going to lose money and endorsements and go to Dallas where Nowitzki might be there still. He's going to go to Atlanta where Chris Paul will miraculously step away from the Clipper franchise that he really likes.

Do you have any idea how much money Howard loses if he doesn't go to L.A. or Brooklyn. Do you even have a clue?

AmerigoCorleone · Post #177 » by **AmerigoCorleone** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 10:01 am

Jajwanda wrote:Yes he's going to lose money and endorsements and go to Dallas where Nowitzki might be there still. He's going to go to Atlanta where Chris Paul will miraculously step away from the Clipper franchise that he really likes.

Do you have any idea how much money Howard loses if he doesn't go to L.A. or Brooklyn. Do you even have a clue?

Agendas where anything can make sense.

Shaheen · Post #178 » by **Shaheen** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 10:30 am

LaLa wrote:Great logic lol. So let me get this straight, he would of course go to Dallas where its already a rebuilding process instead of going to the Lakers, potentially winning a chip or 2 then rebuild with a proven franchise. Cmon now, just step away from the keyboard and leave before you make a fool out of yourself even more.

Did you not even bother to read my post? Dallas can offer this trio
CP3/Dirk/Dwight. Thats a rebuilding team? Are you of your mind.

You think Dwight wants to spend time rebuilding with the Lakers after Kobe and Nash are done? Does that make sense to you?

Dwight is in the prime of his career and he wants a two year window to win a championship before having to rebuild without any young players or assets?

To quote you, great logic lol.

Shaheen · Post #179 » by **Shaheen** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 10:34 am

Jajwanda wrote:Yes he's going to lose money and endorsements and go to Dallas where Nowitzki might be there still. He's going to go to Atlanta where Chris Paul will miraculously step away from the Clipper franchise that he really likes.

Do you have any idea how much money Howard loses if he doesn't go to L.A. or Brooklyn. Do you even have a clue?

Yes he's going to stay in LA with a 34 and 39 year old who will continue to get worse and not even one good young player to name.

See what I did there? You can make any scenario sound stupid.
You don't know that Chris Paul will stay in LA. And even if CP3 does stay there are other scenarios which would work. LA or Dallas can surround him with good young players to pair with Dwight/Smith.

What if Dallas offered to make a Bynum/Howard combo and then put Dirk at SF?

Theres endless possibilities. To act like Dwight joining a sinking ship that will be the Lakers in two years is a sure thing is a joke. Good luck with that.

Kobe System · Post #180 » by **Kobe System** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 10:36 am

Shaheen wrote:Why do Lakers fans feel so entitled to Dwight? "Its inevitable." "The writing is on the wall."

Just because you arguably have a better offer doesn't mean ****. Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers. And thats a major obstacle.

Last year the Nets had a much better offer than the Knicks for Carmelo but who got him? The Knicks. Because Carmelo never wanted to play for the Nets. And Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers.

I'm not saying you're not getting him. Just stop saying its automatic. It only make you guys look worse and you will get embarrassed if you're wrong.

Magic organization does NOT wanna trade with Nets >>> Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers. :wink: