Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage

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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#161 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:56 am

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you're trolling in a freaking gay rights thread. Good god. You're amazing.


Ugh, we are having a discussion with our opinions. Don't call mine "trolling". A lot of people agree with me.

Ok nvm, you're dead serious about the genetic malfunction theory :o

my mistake. :oops:


If gays are really born that way, then yes, it is a malfunction. Males reproductive systems evolved specifically to procreate with females. This is a scientific fact. If a gay is behaving like a woman, and wants males instead of women, then obviously there was a genetic defect with that person. It's probably linked to the brain and hormones, working incorrectly.
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Post#162 » by MannyRam99 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:57 am

qm22 wrote:What kind of...freak... is not satisfied to have the type of sex and type of life-partner of their choosing, but wants to determine it for other people, it is some really headache inducing sociopath behavior.

You're misunderstanding greatly.

Posters such as og15 have already explained in detail, and then people such as yourself continue to miss the point time and time. All I can advise you to do is go back and read lakerz12 and og15's views on same sex marriage. It has nothing to do with the social union aspect of it.
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Post#163 » by L3GEND4RY » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:57 am

man this got off topic a while ago.. interesting points, though.
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Post#164 » by Chalk1 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:58 am

peja drobnjak wrote:same sex marriage and identity politics in general are a spectacular distraction from the rich **** us all over



True true, it's a hot-button issue that actually effects a very small minority.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#165 » by christian72589 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:00 am

I just want to point out the hatred of Christianity specifically in this thread and all over out country today...

Do I need to tell you what they do to homosexuals in the Arab world?

I was born and raised catholic so I can speak for what I know...Christianity does NOT advocate the elimination of ANYONE, nor does it advocate even the slightest hardship being placed upon someone who is different from you. This B.S. argument about Christians and God and whatever has little to do with this issue. You want to make this an attack on religion, that's your prerogative. Remember that nearly all of our most basic laws in this country are founded not SIMPLY on Christianity, but on religious values and beliefs.

Again, It's easy to attack Christianity specifically because those doing so are blatantly ignorant and in fact bigots themselves. I will state simply that Homosexuals and minorities are FAR FAR FAR better off in a christian society than an Islamic society, yet, I see nothing about that because I suppose no one here would dare to offend someone who isn't Christian.

I'm not heavily involved in the church at all, but I've had a good foundation of morality, acceptance of those that are different from me, tolerance of the same people that throw insults and attacks my way when it comes to these things and A lot of it has been based on what I've learned from the Catholic faith.

It doesn't matter what specific God you believe in or don't believe in. What matters is the values you possess, values like accepting someone who is homosexual and understanding they want to be happy too even though it doesn't fall in line with specific religious teaching.

The irony is so thick on the website in general with all of these people crying bigotry left and right, while their posts follow with lines upon lines of hatred directed at those with a different culture in faith.

Good luck to you guys.
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Post#166 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:03 am

How much of this donation is related to the news that Chick-Fil-A enjoyed the best season of business in their entire history, simply because people opposed to same-sex marriage went to show their support?

Magic trying to copy that? Kinda sad.
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Post#167 » by peja drobnjak » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:03 am

nice job passing the buck to muslims and ay-rabs
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Post#168 » by lovethewire » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:04 am

People are not born gay, its a choice, so if you choose to.live that life, deal with the consequences, you don't deserve all the rights as everyone else, same with felons not going able to vote, if you choose to break the law you don't deserve the privileges of everyone else
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Post#169 » by Rallyks » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:06 am

lovethewire wrote:People are not born gay, its a choice


proof?
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Post#170 » by sir G Wallace » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:06 am

Yes but I didn't acknowledge that side because it's irrelevant.... people can decide to not want to eat and use their willpower to starve. The body, however, wants you to eat.

So, as long as your body is functioning correctly, I don't really worry about what people want to think. Our minds are powerful and can do pretty much anything we want, including going against your very own biology. No point in talking about it.

I knew I shouldnt had gotten into this.. Reading responses like these from people who act like they have all the knowledge and logic in the world right in their hands. It is not irrelevant. Eating and nourishing your body is something that you NEED immediately to maintain your existence. You dont need to have kids to maintain your physical existence. If a person chooses to not pass along their genes to the next generation then it is their personal choice. You dont need to jump in there and talk like they have a malfunction and treat them differently because of their personal choice in life. All gay couples want is to be a part of the man-made concept of marriage in our society which is considered a way of solidifying and validating a relationship between two adults in our society. But you want to come in and tell them that their choice of a partner is due to a malfunction and they are not allowed to have that social validation with person they love the most in their life.

Im no gay guy but I am assuming that when two gay guys love each other it would be the same as me loving a woman. If someone was to come in there and tell me that I cannot marry that individual because they think there is something wrong with me then that is a big slap in the face of your existence.

There is nothing wrong with wanting a same sex partner, you are just an intolerant person. No need trying to find some logical explanation to explain your intolerance.
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Post#171 » by lakerz12 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:06 am

In the interest of fact, for those talking about rights and comparing gay "marriage" to the civil rights/racial rights issue---

Concerning marriage, every human in America currently HAS EQUAL RIGHTS

if NO ONE currently has the right to same sex marriage

Proponents of gay marriage are NOT in favor of EQUAL RIGHTS

Gay "marriage" would be an ADDITIONAL right

If you refer to homosexuals as not having "equal rights", you are in fact discriminating by defining them as a separate group of people

They currently DO have equal rights as the rest of Americans

This is just objective fact. Thought it should be pointed out.
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Post#172 » by christian72589 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:07 am

peja drobnjak wrote:nice job passing the buck to muslims and ay-rabs


It was a factual statement that pertains directly to the conversation being held... it's Arab not Ay-Rab.

Your condescension only points out your lack of an argument. It's childish.
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Post#173 » by easiestplayfts » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:09 am

I'm a Democrat/liberal....let people in love get married.
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Post#174 » by peja drobnjak » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:09 am

lovethewire wrote:People are not born gay, its a choice, so if you choose to.live that life, deal with the consequences, you don't deserve all the rights as everyone else, same with felons not going able to vote, if you choose to break the law you don't deserve the privileges of everyone else

it's not like they enter a booth fully informed and pick after lots of deliberation hmm yes on gay or no on gay

it's more like, ****, why is my dong getting hard in gym and why do i keep daydreaming about cocks. the choice then is to see whether you can find some of the same satisfaction with women or stay celibate or whether to come out/act out yr gayness in secret
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Post#175 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:11 am

sir G Wallace wrote:I knew I shouldnt had gotten into this.. Reading responses like these from people who act like they have all the knowledge and logic in the world right in their hands. It is not irrelevant. Eating and nourishing your body is something that you NEED immediately to maintain your existence. You dont need to have kids to maintain your physical existence. If a person chooses to not pass along their genes to the next generation then it is their personal choice.


But they need to have sex. The sexual drive is a biological fact. That sexual drive is what evolved, not a mental "I want to have kids" gene.

So just because you decide not to have kids, doesn't mean you don't want to have sex. It is only modern science contraceptives that is saving you from children. As I said before, if you lived 200 years ago, people had children whether they liked it or not. No birth control pills and all the other things we have now.

I hope that clears things up for you.
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Post#176 » by Yuri Vaultin » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:11 am

lovethewire wrote:People are not born gay, its a choice, so if you choose to.live that life, deal with the consequences, you don't deserve all the rights as everyone else, same with felons not going able to vote, if you choose to break the law you don't deserve the privileges of everyone else

So gays are now like shoplifters. Splendid. You clearly have multiple doctorates and I feel that even though I am armed with an abundance of common sense I am just no match for your well thought out and supported points. :clap:
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Post#177 » by qm22 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:12 am

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qm22 wrote:What kind of...freak... is not satisfied to have the type of sex and type of life-partner of their choosing, but wants to determine it for other people, it is some really headache inducing sociopath behavior.

You're misunderstanding greatly.

Posters such as og15 have already explained in detail, and then people such as yourself continue to miss the point time and time. All I can advise you to do is go back and read lakerz12 and og15's views on same sex marriage. It has nothing to do with the social union aspect of it.


I don't know what you are referring to. If it is about the claim that some people would allow legal equality of gay partners but do not want to call it "marriage" than first of all, that is an improvement, but in reality gay partnerships currently are treated with LESS legal benefits and protection than a heterosexual marriage. That is what the majority of the argument is about, which stems back to the driving force being disliking homosexuality and desire to regulate it.

If some people are only against the terminology of marriage/sanctity of marriage/etc, it is a lot less of an issue. I still side with gays being allowed to have any form of marriage out of freedom of religion, and no religion has a credible claim--let alone right--to control marriage. In the US you are free to register new religions and perform any ceremonies, even if you claim it is the Jedi religion. That is why the real current problem is about the legal recognition.
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Post#178 » by lovethewire » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:13 am

peja drobnjak wrote:
lovethewire wrote:People are not born gay, its a choice, so if you choose to.live that life, deal with the consequences, you don't deserve all the rights as everyone else, same with felons not going able to vote, if you choose to break the law you don't deserve the privileges of everyone else

it's not like they enter a booth fully informed and pick after lots of deliberation hmm yes on gay or no on gay

it's more like, ****, why is my dong getting hard in gym and why do i keep daydreaming about cocks. the choice then is to see whether you can find some of the same satisfaction with women or stay celibate or whether to come out/act out yr gayness in secret

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Post#179 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:14 am

Yuri Vaultin wrote:So gays are now like shoplifters. Splendid. You clearly have multiple doctorates and I feel that even though I am armed with an abundance of common sense I am just no match for your well thought out and supported points. :clap:


Quite a hypocritical post, seeing as you how talked about how anti-gay marriage people should "put down" gays/gay animals.

Because that was clearly what we were saying, right?

Then you sit there on a fake pedestal and chastise him for doing the same you did? :lol:
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Post#180 » by lovethewire » Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:15 am

Yuri Vaultin wrote:
lovethewire wrote:People are not born gay, its a choice, so if you choose to.live that life, deal with the consequences, you don't deserve all the rights as everyone else, same with felons not going able to vote, if you choose to break the law you don't deserve the privileges of everyone else

So gays are now like shoplifters. Splendid. You clearly have multiple doctorates and I feel that even though I am armed with an abundance of common sense I am just no match for your well thought out and supported points. :clap:

Are you gay?

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