Better Athletes NFL or NBA players?

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Re: Better Athletes NFL or NBA players? 

Post#161 » by Zubby » Fri Mar 1, 2013 8:56 pm

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I'll put it this way. If you are extremely Athletic, your first choice is going to be the NBA, if you have the skills for it. If you don't, you work your butt off for football.

No its preference everyone is different.
Darrell Armstrong wanted football could not make it so he did basketball.
Barkley loves football he has said it his favorite sport but he can't play it.

Just like there are some who go the other way.
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Re: Better Athletes NFL or NBA players? 

Post#162 » by inDe_eD » Fri Mar 1, 2013 9:00 pm

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inDe_eD wrote:
I'll put it this way. If you are extremely Athletic, your first choice is going to be the NBA, if you have the skills for it. If you don't, you work your butt off for football.

No its preference everyone is different.
Darrell Armstrong wanted football could not make it so he did basketball.
Barkley loves football he has said it his favorite sport but he can't play it.

Just like there are some who go the other way.


Earlier in the thread (page 8) I posted this:

inDe_eD wrote:Average salary by league:http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/steve_aschburner/08/19/average-salary/index.html

NBA: $5.15 million (2010-11)
MLB: $3.34 million (2010)
NHL: $2.4 million (2010-11)
NFL: $1.9 million (2010)

Average NFL players career life is 3.3 years: http://www.livestrong.com/article/15527-long-average-career-nfl-player/

Average NBA players career by height: http://weaksideawareness.wordpress.com/2011/11/22/average-nba-career-length-for-players-details/

Height of 7 feet or more = 5.78 seasons.
Height from 6-7 to 6-11 = 5.43 seasons.
Height from 6-3 to 6-6 = 4.51 seasons.
Height 6-2 or below = 4.12 seasons.

Because the argument is between NFL and NBA players, I'm not going to include those two leagues. Now, I'm not insinuating that NHL and MLB players are more Athletic than NFL players, because those two sports require skill over athleticism (not saying there aren't serious athletes in either league).

The average NFL players career salary today would be about 3.3 years X 1.9 mil/year = $6.27 million
The average NBA players career salary, by height, today would be:

Height of 7 feet or more: 5.78 years X $5.15 mil/year = $29.77 million
Height from 6-7 to 6-11: 5.43 years X $5.15 mil/year = $27.96 million
Height from 6-3 to 6-6: 4.51 years X $5.15 mil/year = $23.23 million
Height 6-2 or below: 4.12 years X $5.15 mil/year = $21.22 million

So, the average NBA player makes at least 3 times as much as the average NFL player does, over the course of an average career.


So, I think these guys are definitely going to play basketball over football if they can. It's not a matter of preference, it's a matter of $$$.
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Re: Better Athletes NFL or NBA players? 

Post#163 » by Zubby » Fri Mar 1, 2013 9:32 pm

inDe_eD wrote:
Zubby wrote:
inDe_eD wrote:
I'll put it this way. If you are extremely Athletic, your first choice is going to be the NBA, if you have the skills for it. If you don't, you work your butt off for football.

No its preference everyone is different.
Darrell Armstrong wanted football could not make it so he did basketball.
Barkley loves football he has said it his favorite sport but he can't play it.

Just like there are some who go the other way.


Earlier in the thread (page 8) I posted this:

inDe_eD wrote:Average salary by league:http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/steve_aschburner/08/19/average-salary/index.html

NBA: $5.15 million (2010-11)
MLB: $3.34 million (2010)
NHL: $2.4 million (2010-11)
NFL: $1.9 million (2010)

Average NFL players career life is 3.3 years: http://www.livestrong.com/article/15527-long-average-career-nfl-player/

Average NBA players career by height: http://weaksideawareness.wordpress.com/2011/11/22/average-nba-career-length-for-players-details/

Height of 7 feet or more = 5.78 seasons.
Height from 6-7 to 6-11 = 5.43 seasons.
Height from 6-3 to 6-6 = 4.51 seasons.
Height 6-2 or below = 4.12 seasons.

Because the argument is between NFL and NBA players, I'm not going to include those two leagues. Now, I'm not insinuating that NHL and MLB players are more Athletic than NFL players, because those two sports require skill over athleticism (not saying there aren't serious athletes in either league).

The average NFL players career salary today would be about 3.3 years X 1.9 mil/year = $6.27 million
The average NBA players career salary, by height, today would be:

Height of 7 feet or more: 5.78 years X $5.15 mil/year = $29.77 million
Height from 6-7 to 6-11: 5.43 years X $5.15 mil/year = $27.96 million
Height from 6-3 to 6-6: 4.51 years X $5.15 mil/year = $23.23 million
Height 6-2 or below: 4.12 years X $5.15 mil/year = $21.22 million

So, the average NBA player makes at least 3 times as much as the average NFL player does, over the course of an average career.


So, I think these guys are definitely going to play basketball over football if they can. It's not a matter of preference, it's a matter of $$$.

Thats great and all but that didn't change what players have said, Armstrong is the one that pops into my mind and Barley cause he is always talking about football.

People will still play what ever sport they have a better chance of playing. If some one could be a starter in the NFL and a starter in the NBA I think most would take NFL.
The closest player to have to make that decision was Ward but he wasn't a 1st/2nd round quality pick in the NFL so he went undrafted, but was a 1st round pick in the NBA.

What I mean there are guys who give up basketball for football, and guys who give up football for basketball like Greg Paulus i mean the list is endless it more preference/what they are better at.
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Re: Better Athletes NFL or NBA players? 

Post#164 » by inDe_eD » Fri Mar 1, 2013 9:44 pm

Zubby wrote:Thats great and all but that didn't change what players have said, Armstrong is the one that pops into my mind and Barley cause he is always talking about football.

People will still play what ever sport they have a better chance of playing. If some one could be a starter in the NFL and a starter in the NBA I think most would take NFL.
The closest player to have to make that decision was Ward but he wasn't a 1st/2nd round quality pick in the NFL so he went undrafted, but was a 1st round pick in the NBA.

What I mean there are guys who give up basketball for football, and guys who give up football for basketball like Greg Paulus i mean the list is endless it more preference/what they are better at.


Please explain why someone would choose the NFL over the NBA? Is it because they have a better chance of a healthy, long life if they play in the NFL? Or maybe because NFL players make so much more money right? Or maybe because football is so much more popular with the black community, and every kid grows up playing backyard football?
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Re: Better Athletes NFL or NBA players? 

Post#165 » by Hero » Fri Mar 1, 2013 10:16 pm

NBA no doubt.
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Post#166 » by blackhawk2076 » Fri Mar 1, 2013 10:22 pm

Zubby wrote:lmao this thread still going?
"I played football for one day. I gave my equipment to the coach and said, 'Thank you, this is a bit too stressful for me.'" - Barkley

iirc Shaq said he quit football because he was afraid of injuries.

There are only a maybe a couple NBA players who could play in the NFL... LeBron, Griffin, Derozan etc. are pretty damn soft and would be the wussiest receivers ever they wouldn't make it... can't block, afraid to get hit, afraid to go down the middle... maybe Nate Robinson & Bledsoe could play special teams but that's about it, wouldnt be very good.

Darrell Armstrong wasn't a good enough athlete for NFL but he was more than good enough to make it in the NBA
LOL hogwash. Tony Douglas brother Harry plays in the NFL as a WR and Tony is slightly bigger than Harry.You don't think Tony could play football? They basically have the same body type.

Desean Jackson is smaller than most point guards in the NBA but yet he's in the NFL. Thinking only 4 NBA PLAYERS would have the courage to play football is laughable.

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Re: Better Athletes NFL or NBA players? 

Post#167 » by blackhawk2076 » Fri Mar 1, 2013 10:24 pm

Zubby wrote:lmao this thread still going?
"I played football for one day. I gave my equipment to the coach and said, 'Thank you, this is a bit too stressful for me.'" - Barkley

iirc Shaq said he quit football because he was afraid of injuries.

There are only a maybe a couple NBA players who could play in the NFL... LeBron, Griffin, Derozan etc. are pretty damn soft and would be the wussiest receivers ever they wouldn't make it... can't block, afraid to get hit, afraid to go down the middle... maybe Nate Robinson & Bledsoe could play special teams but that's about it, wouldnt be very good.

Darrell Armstrong wasn't a good enough athlete for NFL but he was more than good enough to make it in the NBA
LOL hogwash. Tony Douglas brother Harry plays in the NFL as a WR and Tony is slightly bigger than Harry.You don't think Tony could play football? They basically have the same body type.

Desean Jackson is smaller than most point guards in the NBA but yet he's in the NFL. Thinking only 4 NBA PLAYERS would have the courage to play football is laughable.

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Post#168 » by kakaman » Fri Mar 1, 2013 10:25 pm

inDe_eD wrote:
Zubby wrote:Thats great and all but that didn't change what players have said, Armstrong is the one that pops into my mind and Barley cause he is always talking about football.

People will still play what ever sport they have a better chance of playing. If some one could be a starter in the NFL and a starter in the NBA I think most would take NFL.
The closest player to have to make that decision was Ward but he wasn't a 1st/2nd round quality pick in the NFL so he went undrafted, but was a 1st round pick in the NBA.

What I mean there are guys who give up basketball for football, and guys who give up football for basketball like Greg Paulus i mean the list is endless it more preference/what they are better at.


Please explain why someone would choose the NFL over the NBA? Is it because they have a better chance of a healthy, long life if they play in the NFL? Or maybe because NFL players make so much more money right? Or maybe because football is so much more popular with the black community, and every kid grows up playing backyard football?


It really depends on the person. For example, Charlie Ward was a Heisman Trophy winner and wanted badly to play in the NFL. However, he was told he wasn't going to be drafted in the 1st round, so he ended up in the NBA instead. It really depends on what you enjoy more.
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Re: Better Athletes NFL or NBA players? 

Post#169 » by Zubby » Fri Mar 1, 2013 10:30 pm

inDe_eD wrote:Please explain why someone would choose the NFL over the NBA? Is it because they have a better chance of a healthy post-career with the NFL? Or maybe because NFL players make so much more money right? Or maybe because football is so much more popular with the black community, and every kid grows up playing backyard football?

Pretty sure football is the most popular sport in any american community.

You're just throwing out salary numbers and say its fact people prefer basketball.
I have given names of guys who have given up one sport because they prefer another.
Terrell Pryor from OSU preferred football her he did the reverse of Greg Paulus.
Yes money plays a role for some but not all.

The question was who is more athletic and as I have said earlier having played pickup with both Bball(Cook, Lighty, Hunter) & Football players(so many O'neal, Stoneburner to name a couple)

Its not even close, I'm a pretty damn good athlete and the football guys were on a different level athletically, all different positions I mean the 3rd string QB(can't remember his name) could throw down crazy dunks and was just way too strong.
The basketball guys were amazingly skilled well Hunter wasn't but he was tall, they were all pretty damn weak and no where near as fast/quick.
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Re: Better Athletes NFL or NBA players? 

Post#170 » by Zubby » Fri Mar 1, 2013 10:37 pm

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Zubby wrote:lmao this thread still going?
"I played football for one day. I gave my equipment to the coach and said, 'Thank you, this is a bit too stressful for me.'" - Barkley

iirc Shaq said he quit football because he was afraid of injuries.

There are only a maybe a couple NBA players who could play in the NFL... LeBron, Griffin, Derozan etc. are pretty damn soft and would be the wussiest receivers ever they wouldn't make it... can't block, afraid to get hit, afraid to go down the middle... maybe Nate Robinson & Bledsoe could play special teams but that's about it, wouldnt be very good.

Darrell Armstrong wasn't a good enough athlete for NFL but he was more than good enough to make it in the NBA
LOL hogwash. Tony Douglas brother Harry plays in the NFL as a WR and Tony is slightly bigger than Harry.You don't think Tony could play football? They basically have the same body type.

Desean Jackson is smaller than most point guards in the NBA but yet he's in the NFL. Thinking only 4 NBA PLAYERS would have the courage to play football is laughable.

Here's a picture of Harry and Tony Douglas......Image
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Yea did I say anything about needing to be big to play football?
My brother boxed and wrestled I'm bigger than him... I did boxing for like 2 weeks before I quit, you couldnt pay me to do either.
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Re: Better Athletes NFL or NBA players? 

Post#171 » by Never Wrong » Fri Mar 1, 2013 10:43 pm

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CablexDeadpool wrote:NFL athletes hands down.

NBA players are weaklings and lack overralll athleticism.

NFL athletes are dudes that can bench 225 20 times, have a 40 vertical and a '11 broad jump and then run a 4.3

Only NFL caliber athlete I think that is in the NBA right now is Lebron and the only dude that would last in the NFL would be Lebron.


100% BS

I could easily say Most NFL players could not play in the NBA too

There are many NBA players that could and HAVE played Football

Poor argument and not even relevant to the topic. Basketball involves skill. This is a thread about athleticism. It's more difficult to make it in the NBA on pure athleticism alone than it is in the NFL because it takes more skill to play in the NBA than it does in the NFL. In football, the coaches, offensive/defensive coordinators, and the QB do all the thinking. The rest just do what they're told and/or react to plays. Catch, run, tackle. This is a difficult comparison from an athleticism POV because so many great highlight plays in the NBA involve skill. Footwork, ballhandling, court vision, court awareness. Football on the other hand involves pretty much pure athleticism.
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Post#172 » by inDe_eD » Fri Mar 1, 2013 10:48 pm

kakaman wrote:
inDe_eD wrote:
Zubby wrote:Thats great and all but that didn't change what players have said, Armstrong is the one that pops into my mind and Barley cause he is always talking about football.

People will still play what ever sport they have a better chance of playing. If some one could be a starter in the NFL and a starter in the NBA I think most would take NFL.
The closest player to have to make that decision was Ward but he wasn't a 1st/2nd round quality pick in the NFL so he went undrafted, but was a 1st round pick in the NBA.

What I mean there are guys who give up basketball for football, and guys who give up football for basketball like Greg Paulus i mean the list is endless it more preference/what they are better at.


Please explain why someone would choose the NFL over the NBA? Is it because they have a better chance of a healthy, long life if they play in the NFL? Or maybe because NFL players make so much more money right? Or maybe because football is so much more popular with the black community, and every kid grows up playing backyard football?


It really depends on the person. For example, Charlie Ward was a Heisman Trophy winner and wanted badly to play in the NFL. However, he was told he wasn't going to be drafted in the 1st round, so he ended up in the NBA instead. It really depends on what you enjoy more.


Exception proves the rule dude. And besides, NFL teams were reluctant to pick him in the first round because they were afraid he was going to leave for the NBA anyway. It's not like he went on to dominate in the NBA either anyways.
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Post#173 » by Zubby » Fri Mar 1, 2013 11:14 pm

inDe_eD wrote:Exception proves the rule dude. And besides, NFL teams were reluctant to pick him in the first round because they were afraid he was going to leave for the NBA anyway. It's not like he went on to dominate in the NBA either anyways.

Ward was not considered a 1st DAY pick, he tried to force his way into the 1st round and failed no one was gonna draft him on the 1st day... Very similar to Troy Smith.
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Post#174 » by Mamba Venom » Sat Mar 2, 2013 11:17 pm

If size is a skill its NBA for sure.

If its pure athletics I think the NFL wins. I watched a few youtube vids of guys jumping straight out of the pool that were really impressive.
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Post#175 » by sir G Wallace » Sat Mar 2, 2013 11:56 pm

Mamba Venom wrote:If size is a skill its NBA for sure.

If its pure athletics I think the NFL wins. I watched a few youtube vids of guys jumping straight out of the pool that were really impressive.

Correct. Imo size is important considering athletic abilities of people. If someone can be 7 feet and strong, fast, agile, coordinated then I consider them superior simply because at 7 feet it is amazing to have those other attributes.
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Post#176 » by inDe_eD » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:30 pm

“Let's say TPE is a big hole, Ryan Anderson is a "power plug Dick" ($21 million a year). All you have to do is use the Dick to plug in. Great trade and great deal! This is called "perfect fit" in the nba.”
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Post#177 » by D.Brasco » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:02 pm



If i was a basketball/football prospect with equal chances of making the NFL or the NBA i'd choose the NBA 10/10 times. Better pay, chance for a longer career, less likely to suffer from debilitating injuries for rest of life etc.

However if making the NBA was a longer shot i'd go for the NFL.
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Post#178 » by blackhawk2076 » Fri Sep 6, 2013 1:39 pm

Add another former basketball player turned tight end to the list. Denver Broncos Julius Thomas.lol
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Post#179 » by TheChosen618 » Fri Sep 6, 2013 2:42 pm

NBA players have more stamina and are faster and quicker. They aren't even close to NFL players when it comes to things like body control or strength though at least when talking the skill positions like (RB, WR, DB, TE), not even close.
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Post#180 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Fri Sep 6, 2013 5:12 pm

Comparing what NBA and NFL players can bench is worthless given that the average wingspan of an NBA player is much greater than an NFL player.

The NBA requires things like height, wingspan and jumping ability that almost no NFL players possess (because if they did, they'd be playing basketball). NFL players have average builds, but are just great athletes.

I would imagine there are more NBA players who could be pro bowlers than NFL players who could be all stars.

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