How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul?

[dautjazz]

The scary thing is, 3 of these people are reffing an NBA finals game. And another two are announcing it.

So you think the refs are part of the problem that Warriors are down 1-2? Game 2 had far more bad calls against the Cavs down the stretch, and the Cavs overcame it.

It also had 3 quarters of Cavs favored calls. I was there. Also, other than the Iggy foul after LeBron traveled and the Green jump ball call, I don't remember that many consecutive bad calls like Game 3.

Oh I'm sorry you were there, while I wasn't so you have a far more objective view even though you're a Warriors fan.

[bmann626]

Im more weirded out by how long Curry sat there and straddled LeBron

[ckman]

I've learn today that it's a waste of time arguing with Lebron's fans . Basically, even if Lebron punch their mum in the face, it would be their mum fault for putting the face in his way

[BayArea408415]

So you think the refs are part of the problem that Warriors are down 1-2? Game 2 had far more bad calls against the Cavs down the stretch, and the Cavs overcame it.

It also had 3 quarters of Cavs favored calls. I was there. Also, other than the Iggy foul after LeBron traveled and the Green jump ball call, I don't remember that many consecutive bad calls like Game 3.

Oh I'm sorry you were there, while I wasn't so you have a far more objective view even though you're a Warriors fan.

Sarcasm aside, enlighten me on the all the consecutive game-changing calls at the end of Game 2.

1. Iggy foul on LeBron after he traveled = wash
2. Green foul on jump ball on overtime jump ball and on jump ball after loose ball.

I'm probably missing 1 or 2 so please update me as I didn't really watch post-game highlights. Just the post-game podium.

Game 3:
1. LeBron tackled Curry and Cavs got possession with Delly dive and free throws after loose ball foul
2. Delly double dribble after foul on ground (soft foul) and 3 point play
3. Curry being denied 4 point play
4. LeBron foul on Green on rebound late
5. DLee over the back touch foul on TT.
6. Klay-Delly out of bounds call reversal while correct was against the rules. (This is the one bad call in our favor that was fixed).

If anyone wants to bring up moving screens, they need to just stop. Mosgov and TT are just as guilty all game.

[dautjazz]

It also had 3 quarters of Cavs favored calls. I was there. Also, other than the Iggy foul after LeBron traveled and the Green jump ball call, I don't remember that many consecutive bad calls like Game 3.

Oh I'm sorry you were there, while I wasn't so you have a far more objective view even though you're a Warriors fan.

Sarcasm aside, enlighten me on the all the consecutive game-changing calls at the end of Game 2.

1. Iggy foul on LeBron after he traveled = wash
2. Green foul on jump ball on overtime jump ball and on jump ball after loose ball.

I'm probably missing 1 or 2 so please update me as I didn't really watch post-game highlights. Just the post-game podium.

Game 3:
1. LeBron tackled Curry and Cavs got possession with Delly dive and free throws after loose ball foul
2. Delly double dribble after foul on ground (soft foul) and 3 point play
3. Curry being denied 4 point play
4. LeBron foul on Green on rebound late
5. DLee over the back touch foul on TT.

If anyone wants to bring up moving screens, they need to just stop. Mosgov and TT are just as guilty all game.

Look, I'm not going to start arguing about reffing with you, because you wont be objective, and while the Cavs aren't my favorite team, I'm rooting for them, so I'm going to be completely objective either. In the end it tends to even out.

One thing the refs aren't doing is making the Warriors play small ball vs team with a front court of Mozgov, TT, and Lebron. Refs aren't causing Curry to score under 10 points through 3 quarters. The refs didn't cause Thompson to go 6/16 last night. The refs didn't cause Draymond Green to suck this series. The refs didn't cause the Warriors to have absolutely no finals experience (outside of Kerr, though he doesn't have that experience as a coach).

People were predicting the Warriors to win in 5 games, I personally thought that they would probably win in as little as 6 games, so I am also surprised that the Cavs are able to do this so shorthanded, but the fact of the matter is that the size and inexperience are killing the Warriors.

[Hero]

How was this not a foul on Klay?

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Cavs had so many calls go against them. So what if one or two went against GSW?

[BayArea408415]

Look, I'm not going to start arguing about reffing with you, because you wont be objective, and while the Cavs aren't my favorite team, I'm rooting for them, so I'm going to be completely objective either. In the end it tends to even out.

One thing the refs aren't doing is making the Warriors play small ball vs team with a front court of Mozgov, TT, and Lebron. Refs aren't causing Curry to score under 10 points through 3 quarters. The refs didn't cause Thompson to go 6/16 last night. The refs didn't cause Draymond Green to suck this series. The refs didn't cause the Warriors to have absolutely no finals experience (outside of Kerr, though he doesn't have that experience as a coach).

People were predicting the Warriors to win in 5 games, I personally thought that they would probably win in as little as 6 games, so I am also surprised that the Cavs are able to do this so shorthanded, but the fact of the matter is that the size and inexperience are killing the Warriors.

I'm trying to be objective as possible taking my bias into consideration. That is why I was asking for all the terrible Game 2 calls that went in our favor. Honestly, seeing all the Cavs fans complain about refs is what is irritating me more than anything. They are getting calls even at Oracle (through most of the 1st 3 quarters and then we tended to get late calls in Games 1 and 2) and then at Quicken Loans it is even worse in their favor throughout the entire game. The only thing I agree is that both the Cavs and us are getting away with egregious moving screens. So, that's a wash. TT, Mosgov, Bogut and Green are the key culprits.

[BayArea408415]

How was this not a foul on Klay?

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Cavs had so many calls go against them. So what if one or two went against GSW?

Did you ignore LeBron "boxing" out Green on that rebound?

Also, it was more like 4 or 5 that went against us in the last 4 minutes.

[oikosnomos]

How is this David Lee leg lock not a foul?
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[BayArea408415]

Do not and I repeat, do not complain about moving screens (including legs and elbows). TT and Mosgov do it just as much if not more than Bogut, Green, Lee, etc. I've seen Mosgov do two moving screens on the same play before in this series.

[loserX]

That is why I was asking for all the terrible Game 2 calls that went in our favor.

The most egregious ones to me were Draymond Green basically using his hand as a grappling-hook on Thompson and LeBron during jumpballs in overtime. I really don't understand how the refs could miss that...it's a jumpball, and there's only two guys in motion that you have to keep an eye on. How did that get missed, twice?

[ChargerMan]

GS as a team are the kings of moving screens

Bad calls on both ends, GS got the benefit in G1 and G2, Cleveland benefitted in G3.

[Green89]

How is this David Lee leg lock not a foul?
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funny, looks more like Shump trying to dry hump Lee's leg to me

[BayArea408415]

That is why I was asking for all the terrible Game 2 calls that went in our favor.

The most egregious ones to me were Draymond Green basically using his hand as a grappling-hook on Thompson and LeBron during jumpballs in overtime. I really don't understand how the refs could miss that...it's a jumpball, and there's only two guys in motion that you have to keep an eye on. How did that get missed, twice?

Yep that and the Iggy foul after LeBron traveled but are those worse than the last 4 minutes of Game 3:

1. LeBron tackle on Curry that led to Delly free throws after loose ball foul.
2. Delly double dribble 3 point play
3. Curry denied clear 4 point play
4. LeBron fouling Green on rebound.
5. The reversal of the Delly-Klay inbounds play call. It was the correct change but not legal according to the rules.

Game 1 wasn't as bad as 3. Not even close.

[andrewww]

How many critical 'missed' calls on lebron has been missed in the playoffs since he came into the league?

Durant
Paul George
Pierce
Rose
Curry

You cant make this stuff up.
All were game changing plays. Ive said it bfore, lebron gets away more on defense than even his push offs on offensive drive.

I wish Phil was coaching this series...he wouldve definitely made it a point to the media and everyone that lebron has the best off hand in the league.

[MoneyTalks41890]

That is why I was asking for all the terrible Game 2 calls that went in our favor.

The most egregious ones to me were Draymond Green basically using his hand as a grappling-hook on Thompson and LeBron during jumpballs in overtime. I really don't understand how the refs could miss that...it's a jumpball, and there's only two guys in motion that you have to keep an eye on. How did that get missed, twice?

Yep that and the Iggy foul after LeBron traveled but are those worse than the last 4 minutes of Game 3:

1. LeBron tackle on Curry that led to Delly free throws after loose ball foul.
Got the ball first,
2. Delly double dribble 3 point play
You mean the one where Curry hugged Delly around the waist?
3. Curry denied clear 4 point play
4. LeBron fouling Green on rebound.
At the end of the game?
5. The reversal of the Delly-Klay inbounds play call. It was the correct change but not legal according to the rules.
He was out of bounds...

Game 1 wasn't as bad as 3. Not even close.

I'm relatively impartial and this is just nonsense. Refs are bad all around, but the Warriors have looked terrible. So many moving screens and they still can't get off good shots. And so many no-calls when Bron is driving. You could almost call a foul every play by the rules.

[oikosnomos]

How is this David Lee leg lock not a foul?
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funny, looks more like Shump trying to dry hump Lee's leg to me

I'm cool with laughing it off. I'm just saying, it goes both ways. Refs aren't jobbing anyone here....well, more like they are jobbing everyone.

[turk3d]

How is this David Lee leg lock not a foul?
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And why didn't Curry get an and1 on Mozgov catching his arm? Makeup call? lol. I guess two non-calls on the same play balance it out? Is that how they figure it?

[BayArea408415]

1. LeBron tackle on Curry that led to Delly free throws after loose ball foul.
Got the ball first,
2. Delly double dribble 3 point play
You mean the one where Curry hugged Delly around the waist?
3. Curry denied clear 4 point play
4. LeBron fouling Green on rebound.
At the end of the game?
5. The reversal of the Delly-Klay inbounds play call. It was the correct change but not legal according to the rules.
He was out of bounds...

I'm relatively impartial and this is just nonsense. Refs are bad all around, but the Warriors have looked terrible. So many moving screens and they still can't get off good shots. And so many no-calls when Bron is driving. You could almost call a foul every play by the rules.

1. Does not matter if he got the ball first. Even a piece. This isn't soccer (football) where you can slide tackle through someone if you get the ball first. His tackle obstructed and denied Curry from easily recovering the ball. It's not even debatable. You call yourself impartial?
2. Doesn't matter if Curry hugged him. That foul was on the ground. You don't let the double dribble go and let him get a continuation prayer 3 point play.
3. End of the game? I'm referring to before LeBron's alley oop dunk where he "boxed" out Green "forward" away from the ball. Might have been another at the end.
5. Klay was out of bounds and it was a bad call at first but you can't just reverse it like that. I believe that is against the rules.

Also, you are not even close to impartial. Cavs moving screens are just as bad from TT and Mosgov. Also, LeBron elbows and pushes off on nearly every drive. You could call offensive fouls on about 70% of his drives.

[naabzor]

I thought he hit the ball out before he touched Curry.

I still think that if you tackle on another player if you get only ball it's not a foul, if you get the ball clean than knock down the player is a foul no matter what. You are clearing a guy from the action diving on him and getting unfair advantage from your tackle. It's a foul no matter what.