Kevin Durant Free Agency Thread

[Warriorfan]

He does. At least better than the guys people say they can "replace" him with.


That all said, there's a zero chance Durant goes there, but as for Barnes I don't really care what they do, downgrade or overpay, either is fine by me.

No he doesn't. Iggy, Klay and Draymond and Bogut do way more for GSW defensively.

Yes they do, but he plays his role on defense as well.

Vet min Brandon Rush started 23 games for the Warriors and their defensive efficiency after a slow start went from top 10 to top 5.

The shelved the death squad but did experiment with a lineup of Green Iggy Livingston Curry Thompson later in the season.

Warriors have a real GM who probably doesn't have a MVP using his possible free agency to overpay everyone.

[bondom34]

No he doesn't. Iggy, Klay and Draymond and Bogut do way more for GSW defensively.

Yes they do, but he plays his role on defense as well.

Vet min Brandon Rush started 23 games for the Warriors and their defensive efficiency after a slow start went from top 10 to top 5.

The shelved the death squad but did experiment with a lineup of Green Iggy Livingston Curry Thompson later in the season.

Warriors have a real GM who probably doesn't have a MVP using his possible free agency to overpay everyone.

I don't know what the last sentence is saying, but yes they were OKish for a short stretch. Please, I'm hoping you guys let him walk and end up without him. It would be a great help to the league. Thanks!

All teams have real GMs, and most aren't as arrogant as GSWs. But he's just light years ahead of everyone .

[GswStorm3]

I love how you think our options are downgrade or overpay.

[Guest202]

Y'all think GS pitches Durant on 74 - 8 and a chip?

Plus our core is entering it's prime. We are adding one or two all stars to Curry, Thompson and Green we'd like one of them to be you.

"Look KD, Lebron, Wade and Bosh made HUNDREDS of millions of extra dollars and won two rings because they teamed up in Miami..."

[QRich3]

I love how you think our options are downgrade or overpay.

They kind of are if you're honest. I'd love them to let go of Barnes and Ezeli and pursue Durant, only to end up overpaying someone like Parsons or Howard when they realise that's not possible. But the most likely thing is they stay course and not break up a 73 win team because their fans are frustrated after a role player made a few mistakes in a 7 game, 4-point finals series.

[bondom34]

I love how you think our options are downgrade or overpay.

You're right. Maybe Barnes will decide to take less money to stay. That seems likely.

[dc]

All teams have real GMs, and most aren't as arrogant as GSWs. But he's just light years ahead of everyone .

You're speaking of the owner, Joe Lacob. He talks to much. But people should remember that he was a talker from Day 1 when he took over a terrible franchise that had 1 playoff appearance in 17 years. But nobody hated on him or called him arrogant for that; they just kind of laughed and brushed it aside as silly/cute talk. Now that he's actually won, people consider him arrogant and hate on him for it.

Bob Myers, who is the Warriors GM, is an extremely soft spoken guy who really doesn't say much to the media at all.

[bondom34]

All teams have real GMs, and most aren't as arrogant as GSWs. But he's just light years ahead of everyone .

You're speaking of the owner, Joe Lacob. He talks to much. But people should remember that he was a talker from Day 1 when he took over a terrible franchise that had 1 playoff appearance in 17 years. But nobody hated on him or called him arrogant for that; they just kind of laughed and brushed it aside as silly/cute talk. Now that he's actually won, people consider him arrogant and hate on him for it.

Bob Myers, who is the Warriors GM, is an extremely soft spoken guy who really doesn't say much to the media at all.

Ah, my bad on that.

That said, this is the same GM who iirc wanted to trade for Love but was overruled by Kerr.

[nbafan38]

Durant stated he's going to make a basketball decision which means if he does leave the only places that make sense that would get him closer to winning a ring are GSW and SA but I still think his credibility takes alittle hit for joining his teams top rivals so odds are he stays in OKC at least one more year.

[dc]

You're right. Maybe Barnes will decide to take less money to stay. That seems likely.

He maybe forced to do that now after his poor performance, but recall he already turned down $16M/year just before the season started, and for good reason.

One was to bet on himself. The other was that he knows the Warriors aren't committed to him the same way as to their core 3. Klay/Dray were willing to take team friendly deals because they knew the team is committed to them. Same can't be said for Barnes, and he's not dumb about that.

He knows the team doesn't consider him as part of the core in the same way as Klay/Dray/Steph. If he takes a discounted deal, it makes him easier to trade. So if he gets traded, well now he just took less money to wind up on a less desirable team.

[Warriorfan]

Yes they do, but he plays his role on defense as well.

Vet min Brandon Rush started 23 games for the Warriors and their defensive efficiency after a slow start went from top 10 to top 5.

The shelved the death squad but did experiment with a lineup of Green Iggy Livingston Curry Thompson later in the season.

Warriors have a real GM who probably doesn't have a MVP using his possible free agency to overpay everyone.

I don't know what the last sentence is saying, but yes they were OKish for a short stretch. Please, I'm hoping you guys let him walk and end up without him. It would be a great help to the league. Thanks!

All teams have real GMs, and most aren't as arrogant as GSWs. But he's just light years ahead of everyone .

LeBron held Cleveland ownership hostage to overpay for limited players Thompson and Schumpart I don't expect the same from Curry. Meyers the Warriors GM is actually humbleaving based on interviews. It's Lacobs quote that the Warriors are light years ahead.

[bondom34]

You're right. Maybe Barnes will decide to take less money to stay. That seems likely.

He maybe forced to do that now after his poor performance, but recall he already turned down $16M/year just before the season started, and for good reason.

One was to bet on himself. The other was that he knows the Warriors aren't committed to him the same way as to their core 3. Klay/Dray were willing to take team friendly deals because they knew the team is committed to them. Same can't be said for Barnes, and he's not dumb about that.

If he takes a discounted deal, it makes him easier to trade. So if he gets traded, well now he just took less money to wind up on a less desirable team.

He won't be forced to, that's kind of the issue for GSW. Someone will offer him, and its GSW's choice. Drop him and hope or keep him and likely overpay. There's a decent chance if they drop him they don't get who they want to replace him and are left with a hole. We saw this year that they can't really afford that.

[Warriorfan]

You're right. Maybe Barnes will decide to take less money to stay. That seems likely.

He maybe forced to do that now after his poor performance, but recall he already turned down $16M/year just before the season started, and for good reason.

One was to bet on himself. The other was that he knows the Warriors aren't committed to him the same way as to their core 3. Klay/Dray were willing to take team friendly deals because they knew the team is committed to them. Same can't be said for Barnes, and he's not dumb about that.

If he takes a discounted deal, it makes him easier to trade. So if he gets traded, well now he just took less money to wind up on a less desirable team.

He won't be forced to, that's kind of the issue for GSW. Someone will offer him, and its GSW's choice. Drop him and hope or keep him and likely overpay. There's a decent chance if they drop him they don't get who they want to replace him and are left with a hole. We saw this year that they can't really afford that.

[dc]

He won't be forced to, that's kind of the issue for GSW. Someone will offer him, and its GSW's choice. Drop him and hope or keep him and likely overpay. There's a decent chance if they drop him they don't get who they want to replace him and are left with a hole. We saw this year that they can't really afford that.

I think they'll likely match up to the same or less than what they offered last summer. Right now, I don't know how many teams would want to sign him to $18M a year and pitch to their fanbase how they just made the Finals LVP their marquee acquisition.

It wouldn't be hard to find a replacement from a production standpoint for less. They'd be keeping him for sake of continuity and for the fact that he's still relatively young.

[bondom34]

He maybe forced to do that now after his poor performance, but recall he already turned down $16M/year just before the season started, and for good reason.

One was to bet on himself. The other was that he knows the Warriors aren't committed to him the same way as to their core 3. Klay/Dray were willing to take team friendly deals because they knew the team is committed to them. Same can't be said for Barnes, and he's not dumb about that.

If he takes a discounted deal, it makes him easier to trade. So if he gets traded, well now he just took less money to wind up on a less desirable team.

He won't be forced to, that's kind of the issue for GSW. Someone will offer him, and its GSW's choice. Drop him and hope or keep him and likely overpay. There's a decent chance if they drop him they don't get who they want to replace him and are left with a hole. We saw this year that they can't really afford that.

So you agree. Good to know.

[bondom34]

He won't be forced to, that's kind of the issue for GSW. Someone will offer him, and its GSW's choice. Drop him and hope or keep him and likely overpay. There's a decent chance if they drop him they don't get who they want to replace him and are left with a hole. We saw this year that they can't really afford that.

I think they'll likely match up to the same or less than what they offered last summer. Right now, I don't know how many teams would want to sign him to $18M a year and pitch to their fanbase how they just made the Finals LVP their marquee acquisition.

It wouldn't be hard to find a replacement from a production standpoint for less. They'd be keeping him for sake of continuity and for the fact that he's still relatively young.

They'd be selling he's still young and even though he had a bad series, he was still in the finals. Not many guys can say that much. He's getting a ton of cash, over 20 a year with little doubt. I'll be interested to see who and what GSW does.

[GswStorm3]

I love how you think our options are downgrade or overpay.

They kind of are if you're honest. I'd love them to let go of Barnes and Ezeli and pursue Durant, only to end up overpaying someone like Parsons or Howard when they realise that's not possible. But the most likely thing is they stay course and not break up a 73 win team because their fans are frustrated after a role player made a few mistakes in a 7 game, 4-point finals series.

Honest about what? That it's going to be improbable to replace the seventh best player on the team who's inconsistent on a nightly basis. That's not being honest.

[Warriorfan]

You're right. Maybe Barnes will decide to take less money to stay. That seems likely.

He maybe forced to do that now after his poor performance, but recall he already turned down $16M/year just before the season started, and for good reason.

One was to bet on himself. The other was that he knows the Warriors aren't committed to him the same way as to their core 3. Klay/Dray were willing to take team friendly deals because they knew the team is committed to them. Same can't be said for Barnes, and he's not dumb about that.

If he takes a discounted deal, it makes him easier to trade. So if he gets traded, well now he just took less money to wind up on a less desirable team.

He won't be forced to, that's kind of the issue for GSW. Someone will offer him, and its GSW's choice. Drop him and hope or keep him and likely overpay. There's a decent chance if they drop him they don't get who they want to replace him and are left with a hole. We saw this year that they can't really afford that.

Thinks Warrior regime has been good in free agency been pretty good value signings David Lee, Iggy, Livingston, Barbosa, Landry, Jaren Jack, Jermaine O Neil. This was all b4 the championship and 73 wins so it should be easier to get quality older vets if the Warriors do not get their main targets.

[dc]

That said, this is the same GM who iirc wanted to trade for Love but was overruled by Kerr.

We don't know exactly who overruled who, though their are reports West was a guy who overruled. Regardless of what actually happened, the Warriors as a management is one that has functioned by committee ever since Lacbob took over. Lacob seeks collaboration among the entire team, from Myers to Kerr to West to the scouting department.

Just to be clear, Lacob is arrogant but there are different types of arrogance. His arrogance is more of a rah-rah, "We're #1!" type of enthusiastic arrogance. He doesn't have the type of arrogance where he feels he's too good to be breathing the same airspace as you or me. That would describe Larry Ellison, who most assumed was the odds on favorite to actually by the team 6 years ago.

[bondom34]

He maybe forced to do that now after his poor performance, but recall he already turned down $16M/year just before the season started, and for good reason.

One was to bet on himself. The other was that he knows the Warriors aren't committed to him the same way as to their core 3. Klay/Dray were willing to take team friendly deals because they knew the team is committed to them. Same can't be said for Barnes, and he's not dumb about that.

If he takes a discounted deal, it makes him easier to trade. So if he gets traded, well now he just took less money to wind up on a less desirable team.

He won't be forced to, that's kind of the issue for GSW. Someone will offer him, and its GSW's choice. Drop him and hope or keep him and likely overpay. There's a decent chance if they drop him they don't get who they want to replace him and are left with a hole. We saw this year that they can't really afford that.

Thinks Warrior regime has been good in free agency been pretty good value signings David Lee, Iggy, Livingston, Barbosa, Landry, Jaren Jack, Jermaine O Neil. This was all b4 the championship and 73 wins so it should be easier to get quality older vets.

Yeah no.

Jack isn't very good, Lee was traded to actually make the team better, Iggy wasn't a value at the time, Landry and JO aren't anything special. Livingston was the only real "steal" there, and that was an injury risk.

That said, this is the same GM who iirc wanted to trade for Love but was overruled by Kerr.

We don't know exactly who overruled who, though their are reports West was a guy who overruled. Regardless of what actually happened, the Warriors as a management is one that has functioned by committee ever since Lacbob took over. Lacob seeks collaboration among the entire team, from Myers to Kerr to West to the scouting department.

Just to be clear, Lacob is arrogant but there are different types of arrogance. His arrogance is more of a rah-rah, "We're #1!" type of enthusiastic arrogance. He doesn't have the type of arrogance where he feels he's too good to be breathing the same airspace as you or me. That would describe Larry Ellison, who most assumed was the odds on favorite to actually by the team 6 years ago.

He may not be that sort of arrogant, but he certainly comes across as it. And he still keeps the arrogance coming after losing.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242330/Joe-Lacob-We-Drove-Idea-Of-Small-Ball-Were-On-To-The-Next-Idea