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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#161 » by Benedict_Boozer » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:53 pm

RingsDontLie wrote:People whined about Lebron when he went to Miami, and people are whining about KD joining golden state. The whining will stop once he gets rings. If Durant wins rings it was the right decision.


If Lebron had gone to Miami and won rings as a 2nd banana to Wade, not a chance he would be getting the respect he does now. All rings aren't created equal IMO.


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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#162 » by Edrees » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:08 am

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KrisPol wrote:Can't understand people who support and defend his decision, unless they are gsw fans i guess. "He wants to play in the free flowing offense where he can get more open looks and enjoy playing basketaball" or however sounds that crap people write trying to defend him. People act like OKC was a crappy team that couldn't do ****. They were one step in the NBA finals, FINALS, and they could compete for the title.

And people bash Westbrook like, he is the reason Durant left. Westbrook was playing magicly in the playoffs, he made some mistakes. But he looked more matured, responsible, and at times, unstoppable. It's not like Durant was perfect. And that Thunder-Warriors series was one of the best in the last couple of years. OKC made some nice moves this offseason, getting Oladipo was the perfect move, made just so they have more chance against that very Warriors team. And what does this guy do, he goes to that team, like WTF, i just can't understand it, i just can't.

And when i talk to people i know, who play basketball throughout their life, they also say that he's a pussy, and i agree. Like you guys have never played basketball or sports whatsoever and have zero competitive spirit, i just facepalm when i see people making it like this move/decision was anything but a weak ass move


Isn't being competitive wanting to win first place? There's nothing in the definition of competitive that suggests you want a difficult path to being the top. Being competitive simply means you want to become the best and you will do what it takes to get there. That's what Durant has done.

Personally I think people have some twisetd logic that being competitive is a desire to struggle. Competitive people want to be the winner no matter what it takes. Personally, I thinka less competitive person would be fine accepting a career being a perennial 2nd place player as long as it meant he was being "tough".

So if you player basketball on the court, does it make you more competitive if you decide to team with people worse than you? Why do you decide to team with people your skill if you can have a more difficult road with worse team mates? These basketball players you speak of do this crap all the time on a smaller scale. You guys act so high and mighty as if you have never desired better teammates so you can win easier.

Every NBA off season there are about 100 players who jump to teams better than the ones they left. Are these players all pussys?


Beat the best if you want to be the best, don't join them.

Imagine Magic and Bird pairing up in the 80s and winning like 8 championships, would that make them competitive. They said that they wanted to beat each other, not play together.

EDIT: just an example from my own basketball "career". I have a couple of friends, we like to talk about basketball, play it, hang out together, and we go to many streetball tournaments 3v3, in our region, and through the years we got pretty good and started reaching late stages of these tournaments, semifinals, winning 3rd places etc, and last year we won one of them, and the feeling was great, not only because i won it, but because i won it with my friends. There were better teams than us, i could've join them and got the easy route to the prize, but it just wouldn't feel that rewarding. That's the part you guys often forget to mention. He was the symbol of OKC and their culture, city loved him, he often said how he loved it aswell, it was his team, but w/e, i see that this is pointless.


BUt the warriors weren't the best, the Cavs were. So Durant can still beat the best by beating the Cavs.

You are confusing "pride" with "competitiveness" Durant doesn't lack competitiveness, what he lacks is pride. These are very different things.
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Post#163 » by nesta » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:09 am

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So the new girl understands that he couldn't "perform" when needed? :D

Or was OKC that ugly?
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#164 » by ImSlower » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:11 am

I guess I'm forever spoiled growing up with Jordan posters, as an Illinois kid growing up in the 80s/early 90s.

Durant's personality sounds very much in tune with mine. Take the safe and comfortable route. Relax and have fun. Netflix and chill instead of pain and gain. I am very comfortable with who I am and where I've gone in life, but I don't deserve to be on any posters.

I don't have any emotional connection to the guy, but I think it's really, really lame that one of the top 10 talents in basketball in the last couple decades is blatantly saying "I came so close, but it was tough. Over here I can chill out and maybe it'll work out in the end."
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#165 » by Magic24 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:21 am

It makes no sense honestly. Why would it matter if they won or not? Why does it factor in his decision? Either he cares about the (lack of)competition or he doesn't.

They didn't win the last game, so what. Their starting center was hurt, they won 73 games, they were up 3-1 when Green got suspended. Just because they didn't win doesn't mean that it will be looked at differently.

If he says he wants to play a different (better) brand of basketball, fine. If he said that he just wanted something new, fine. Don't say that them not winning a ring was a factor. If it was a factor, it is only because you want the ability to say that they didn't win without you. Same thing as saying you care what people think.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#166 » by MisterHibachi » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:24 am

lambchop wrote:who even cares about these comments or durants decision. KD now finally has a more realistic shot at a title. He could have been loyal to the thunder and never won a chip. Now he could win multiple titles. He already has the individual stats, but true team success has eluded him.
Joining a 73 win team won't help his legacy, but his career will still look more well-rounded with a championship ring.


He was a game away from the finals. How much more of a realistic shot could it get?
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Post#167 » by zimpy27 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:50 am

Yes we are witnessing the fall of greatness but Durant didn't choose to be great or put people on his back. He likes basketball and happens to be very good at it. The way he talks makes me feel he is driven by something external to himself, probably his mom but just general people. He's always been sensitive to outside criticism and it's obvious he really cares what other people think of him. He doesn't take criticism to drive himself to be better, it seems to affect him negatively. Truly I think he just wants to kick back without pressure and play the game he likes to play. Winning a championship will take the pressure off him and he can just go about making money and playing basketball.
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Post#168 » by NxtGr8MagicCntr » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:30 am

LeBron is being discussed as the GOAT now after jumping to 2 mega teams. Please give me a break, people WILL forget this because they are dumb and only remember what they do lately. If Cavs don't repeat believe people will go back to him being a choker, not close to Jordan etc. Its the nature of the spotlight and winning cures all. Sad as it is.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#169 » by zimpy27 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:38 am

NxtGr8MagicCntr wrote:LeBron is being discussed as the GOAT now after jumping to 2 mega teams. Please give me a break, people WILL forget this because they are dumb and only remember what they do lately. If Cavs don't repeat believe people will go back to him being a choker, not close to Jordan etc. Its the nature of the spotlight and winning cures all. Sad as it is.

LeBron made those teams great. There is a very clear difference here.
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Post#170 » by NxtGr8MagicCntr » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:11 am

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NxtGr8MagicCntr wrote:LeBron is being discussed as the GOAT now after jumping to 2 mega teams. Please give me a break, people WILL forget this because they are dumb and only remember what they do lately. If Cavs don't repeat believe people will go back to him being a choker, not close to Jordan etc. Its the nature of the spotlight and winning cures all. Sad as it is.

LeBron made those teams great. There is a very clear difference here.


Yup and those 2 other all stars he had sure helped too on both teams. Look id love to have 1 all star let alone 3. The argument for either of these players/teams is insane. They both jumped ship and LeBron clearly benefited both times and Durant saw this and followed suit.
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Post#171 » by Vibranium » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:16 am

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NxtGr8MagicCntr wrote:LeBron is being discussed as the GOAT now after jumping to 2 mega teams. Please give me a break, people WILL forget this because they are dumb and only remember what they do lately. If Cavs don't repeat believe people will go back to him being a choker, not close to Jordan etc. Its the nature of the spotlight and winning cures all. Sad as it is.

LeBron made those teams great. There is a very clear difference here.


Yup and those 2 other all stars he had sure helped too on both teams. Look id love to have 1 all star let alone 3. The argument for either of these players/teams is insane. They both jumped ship and LeBron clearly benefited both times and Durant saw this and followed suit.


Did you forget that before Lebron left his best teammate he ever played with was MO WILLIAMS?
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Post#172 » by NxtGr8MagicCntr » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:41 am

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zimpy27 wrote:LeBron made those teams great. There is a very clear difference here.


Yup and those 2 other all stars he had sure helped too on both teams. Look id love to have 1 all star let alone 3. The argument for either of these players/teams is insane. They both jumped ship and LeBron clearly benefited both times and Durant saw this and followed suit.


Did you forget that before Lebron left his best teammate he ever played with was MO WILLIAMS?


Well he was an all star lol. So LeBron's allowed to be on a super team because he couldn't win?? His mega team literally steam rolled the east setting many records along the way and then went on to beat the 73-9 best regular season team of all time. I guess I should feel bad for LeBron...he has had it rough. Can't be mad at one and not the other. Durant wussed out and LeBron did it too. If Durant wins even 1 ring he isn't a loser anymore no matter what. Just like LeBron did to get rid of the choker label.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#174 » by TheGOATRises007 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:09 am

Reality is after they win 2-3 titles, no one will knock Durant's legacy. Especially if his contribution is high which is likely.

Just like people didn't knock Lebron when he won in Miami despite people saying it wouldn't mean much.

Yeah it was a "weak move" from a superstar, but if he wants to win, it was the best move. Just like Lebron's move. And yes I know the circumstances aren't the same.
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Post#175 » by sims » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:20 am

slightly off-topic, but am i the only one tired of hearing about how much more fun GS has than everyone else? it's so insufferably arrogant - which i suppose does fit their organization to a tee - but they make it seem as if everyone else in the nba is some johnny lunchpail sucker just going through the daily drudgery of being an nba player while they've got it all figured out. distasteful.
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Post#176 » by Capn'O » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:22 am

NyKnicks1714 wrote:I think about it like this:

I'm deciding between two job offers.

One is in Oklahoma City, the other is in the SF Bay Area (and I don't have to worry about cost of living).

One allows me to accomplish a lot more in my field.

One provides a more relaxed, fun work environment.


Don't get me wrong, I'll be quite happy if Golden State doesn't win, but I can't really blame Durant for his decision.


There is a lot of projection from fans. For most fans, this decision sucked. As a fan, you want to see some degree of parity.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#177 » by taikibansei » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:44 am

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NxtGr8MagicCntr wrote:LeBron is being discussed as the GOAT now after jumping to 2 mega teams. Please give me a break, people WILL forget this because they are dumb and only remember what they do lately. If Cavs don't repeat believe people will go back to him being a choker, not close to Jordan etc. Its the nature of the spotlight and winning cures all. Sad as it is.

LeBron made those teams great. There is a very clear difference here.


100% this. Seriously, LMAO at the people (mostly GSW fans) making this comparison as if it could possibly mean something. The Warriors WON the NBA championship in 2015, and really should have won it in 2016. (Curry wasn't 100%, and Green and Bogut both missed important games.) This is a team that without KD would still have been the favorites to win the NBA championship this coming season (especially as they would have kept Bogut). I mean, we're talking about a team that won 73 games last season, for heck's sake!

Compare this to LeBron's Miami and Cleveland teams. Yes, the televised "Decision" was lame (and LeBron took a lot of deserved heat for that). Still, without LeBron, I doubt Miami wins a title...and I doubt Cleveland makes it out of the first round of the playoffs.

Seriously, if you guys truly think the situations equivalent...I don't know what else to say.... :crazy:
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Post#178 » by rich316 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:55 am

sims wrote:slightly off-topic, but am i the only one tired of hearing about how much more fun GS has than everyone else? it's so insufferably arrogant - which i suppose does fit their organization to a tee - but they make it seem as if everyone else in the nba is some johnny lunchpail sucker just going through the daily drudgery of being an nba player while they've got it all figured out. distasteful.


It really is insufferable.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#179 » by Spens1 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:56 am

Benedict_Boozer wrote:
RingsDontLie wrote:People whined about Lebron when he went to Miami, and people are whining about KD joining golden state. The whining will stop once he gets rings. If Durant wins rings it was the right decision.


If Lebron had gone to Miami and won rings as a 2nd banana to Wade, not a chance he would be getting the respect he does now. All rings aren't created equal IMO.


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This, he's getting respect now that he's doing it as the clear #1 on the team (Kyrie was great but that was about it really in terms of superstar help)
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Post#180 » by spacemonkey » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:58 am

MisterHibachi wrote:
lambchop wrote:who even cares about these comments or durants decision. KD now finally has a more realistic shot at a title. He could have been loyal to the thunder and never won a chip. Now he could win multiple titles. He already has the individual stats, but true team success has eluded him.
Joining a 73 win team won't help his legacy, but his career will still look more well-rounded with a championship ring.


He was a game away from the finals. How much more of a realistic shot could it get?


Just spitballing here, but he could join a team that went to the finals?

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