Sixers and Celtics in serious talks about potential trade involving #1 pick

The Penguin · Post #161 » by **The Penguin** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:24 pm

It's not huge, but the #3 pick costs about $1 mil less than the #1 pick on their rookie deal. I know the Celtics have to do a little maneuvering for Hayward so every bit helps.

IT
Butler
Hayward
Horford

With Brown & Jackson or Tatum developing could likely push the Cavs next year.

Pointgod · Post #162 » by **Pointgod** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:25 pm

Dominater wrote:It would be hilarious if Philly takes Lonzo. It would be mass suicide in L.A.

Lol wat? If Philly takes Lonzo the Lakers will gladly take the better player and best prospect in the draft.

Also 3 picks for #1 is generally the cost to be the boss. Look up the track record of number 1 picks you're pretty much guaranteed to draft an all-star. Sixers would have 2 back to back number 1 picks. I honestly don't know what Ainge is doing here. He should just take Fultz.

PhillySixers22 · Post #163 » by **PhillySixers22** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:27 pm

snoopdogg88 wrote:it's interesting to me that people just assume LeBron's Cavs are a Finals lock for many more years

i don't see that at all. If Boston can heavily upgrade their roster with a Butler or whomever , then maybe they can overtake a burned out LeBron and co.

I agree with this assessment depending who they can add. I think the Cavs are in the finals again next year for sure, but if Boston signs Blake and trades for PG13 or Butler I don't see Cleveland beating them past next year.

LAL · Post #164 » by **LAL** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:28 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
LAL wrote:I would be surprised if this deal does go through. With Boston trading down to 3, they risk the Lakers snagging their guy. I think if it goes through it would indicate Boston either has multiple guys they like or nobody they like.

Or just maybe it's predicated on who the Lakers take at 2.

Yea good point. I think we'll see Fultz picked first by Boston and then the Lakers selection. Then Boston either will or will not go through with the trade. It makes no sense for Boston to do this trade prior to the draft.

Jkam31 · Post #165 » by **Jkam31** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:31 pm

What is this ben Simmons pg nonsense Lebron is a pg and still has kyrie. They can play together

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hookshot199 · Post #166 » by **hookshot199** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:31 pm

jason bourne wrote:Wait. Aren't Sixers and Celtics arch rivals? This would be like the Warriors trading with the Lakers lol.

The fact that we're discussing it is one reason why Sixers fans don't trust Bryan.

Maury2423 · Post #167 » by **Maury2423** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:35 pm

Nothing goes down until the Lakers officially announce their pick. But I like this deal for both sides, a little more for the Celtics though

Dominator83 · Post #168 » by **Dominator83** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:36 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Dominater wrote:It would be hilarious if Philly takes Lonzo. It would be mass suicide in L.A.

Lol wat? If Philly takes Lonzo the Lakers will gladly take the better player and best prospect in the draft.

Also 3 picks for #1 is generally the cost to be the boss. Look up the track record of number 1 picks you're pretty much guaranteed to draft an all-star. Sixers would have 2 back to back number 1 picks. I honestly don't know what Ainge is doing here. He should just take Fultz.

Im not so sure about that. i actually think that Magic was THRILLED that he got the #2 instead of 1, because now he doesn't have to justify taking Ball over fultz

BeatDaCavs420 · Post #169 » by **BeatDaCavs420** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:37 pm

sogood wrote:
DowJones wrote:If LA takes Jackson then what does Boston do? Do they take Ball even though he clearly doesn't want to go there?

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Celts17Pride · Post #170 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:39 pm

The Penguin wrote:It's not huge, but the #3 pick costs about $1 mil less than the #1 pick on their rookie deal. I know the Celtics have to do a little maneuvering for Hayward so every bit helps.

IT
Butler
Hayward
Horford

With Brown & Jackson or Tatum developing could likely push the Cavs next year.

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Celtics wouldn't have to trade anyone after this trade in order to have max salary cap space

PierceFan4ever · Post #171 » by **PierceFan4ever** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:42 pm

This would be a catastrophic awful trade for the Celtics if it's just #3 and Lakers pick next year. This is a type move that will have a huge impact on the Celtics in a good or bad way. Ainge is gambling big time while not taking the safe route in already a great position. Very very risky and is giving some of us Celtics fans a heart attack right now.

KamikazeK · Post #172 » by **KamikazeK** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:46 pm

Asif16 wrote:Celtics gotta spend all these future assets sometime right? RIGHT?

lol what they gonna do with all these assets

So far the answer has been "trade them for more assets." :crazy:

s3antana5757 · Post #173 » by **s3antana5757** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:58 pm

This is a really interesting move for both parties. The motivation for Philly is obvious. Not sure I totally understand the move for Boston. I get that you have a ton of guards, but I'm not sure that gearing up for Butler is the answer. If they were gearing up for Anthony Davis or DeMarcus Cousins, I could see it. Is the difference between Butler and Bradley really worth Fultz?

Dominator83 · Post #174 » by **Dominator83** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:09 am

s3antana5757 wrote:This is a really interesting move for both parties. The motivation for Philly is obvious. Not sure I totally understand the move for Boston. I get that you have a ton of guards, but I'm not sure that gearing up for Butler is the answer. If they were gearing up for Anthony Davis or DeMarcus Cousins, I could see it. Is the difference between Butler and Bradley really worth Fultz?

i dont think this is their motive at all. i think Ainge just like someone better than Fultz now and hes using his leverage of having the #1 pick to trade down and still get his guy. Maybe he uses the extra assets from the trade to get a Butler or george?? he would essentially then have turned the #1 pick into his favorite prospect, PLUS one of those blockbuster guys

Illmatic12 · Post #175 » by **Illmatic12** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:12 am

Sixers will have an incredible core if they can pull this off. I'm not sure what Boston would be thinking.. Josh Jackson, seriously??

NatiboyB · Post #176 » by **NatiboyB** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:14 am

Illmatic12 wrote:Sixers will have an incredible core if they can pull this off. I'm not sure what Boston would be thinking.. Josh Jackson, seriously??

I really think them and some other GMs are playing the long game with Jackson and see him reaching his 2 way potential.

Pointgod · Post #177 » by **Pointgod** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:15 am

Dominater wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Dominater wrote:It would be hilarious if Philly takes Lonzo. It would be mass suicide in L.A.

Lol wat? If Philly takes Lonzo the Lakers will gladly take the better player and best prospect in the draft.

Also 3 picks for #1 is generally the cost to be the boss. Look up the track record of number 1 picks you're pretty much guaranteed to draft an all-star. Sixers would have 2 back to back number 1 picks. I honestly don't know what Ainge is doing here. He should just take Fultz.

Im not so sure about that. i actually think that Magic was THRILLED that he got the #2 instead of 1, because now he doesn't have to justify taking Ball over fultz

Even if the Lakers had the number 1 pick they'd go with Fultz because he's the better prospect. The whole Ball to LA is more type than substance as evidenced by Ball participating in a second workout and suddenly deciding to start working out for other teams.

TeamTragic · Post #178 » by **TeamTragic** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:15 am

xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:
SlowPaced wrote:
xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:Thats true, but we all know Ainge is going to ask for the farm.

Doubt it. #3 pick + another first rounder gets it done most likely.

I love Fultz's fit for Philly.

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Ainge looking for that second Brooklyn fleecing? :lol:

Post #179 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:16 am

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Post #180 » by **Froob** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:16 am

The thought of turning Philly into a powerhouse while we get stuck with a team of really good players is scary...