Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017

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Who will dominate?

Markelle Fultz
61
12%
Lonzo Ball
60
12%
Jayson Tatum
131
26%
Josh Jackson
24
5%
De'Aaron Fox
52
10%
Lauri Markkanen
17
3%
Dennis Smith JR
53
10%
Zach Collins
9
2%
Donovan Mitchell
52
10%
Other Players
51
10%
 
Total votes: 510

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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#161 » by OsuCavsfan103 » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:55 am

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OsuCavsfan103 wrote:Listen, Lonzo had plenty of chances to tell his dad to sit back and tone it down, all accounts are he didn't. It may be his Dad who was overhyping him like crazy and making him unlikable as was ESPN, but he did NOTHING to stop it,


If you dont like him why continue to watch? Why torture yourself . I cant stand some sports fans.


I should not have to tune out all of ESPN and all of basketball just because I don't wanna hear about Lonzo freaking Ball every second. Especially when he hasn't done jack yet and very well may be overrated.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#162 » by Jkam31 » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:56 am

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The Evidence wrote:Lonzo's passing is overrated.... always looking to push the ball ahead because you don't have any other NBA skill doesn't make you a good passer.

Next we're gonna start hearing Laker fans asking for hockey assists to be officially counted in box scores.


His colleges stats say otherwise. No other NBA skill? Really, ya'll tune in just to hope a player fails because you're butthurt his daddy talks so much.


What's his skill set he can't do anything in pick and roll his assists are off fast break or making an extra pass


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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#163 » by Wolfgang630 » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:56 am

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Teen Girl Squad wrote:So far, my issues with Lonzo have been showing up, which is a bummer with how good Tatum has looked out of the gate. Runs to the 3 point line and passes it away, can't/hasn't really shown anything in the half court. AN inauspicious start, thats for sure (I know not to overreact to SL games, but it would be nice to have a reason to overreact).

SL is especially unkind to passers, it affected Simmons as well. When Ball's shot starts falling he'll be better off, just an off game imo.


Go watch highlights of Simmons from last year. He's by far better than what we're seeing from Lonzo. Simmons had me saying "holy ****" with his passes. He wasn't making a push the ball up the court passes. He was making passes not most people would even know you could make.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#164 » by Trippinskarlo » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:59 am

The way you know Lonzo gonna BUST is that collin cowherd Loves him.

Joking but srs.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#165 » by MartinToVaught » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:00 am

All the Lonzo talk is just comical at this point when the Clippers have two unheralded late draft picks (Brice Johnson and Sindarius Thornwell) out there outplaying him.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#166 » by DaleyBlind » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:00 am

Ingram is going to win MIP
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#167 » by CoreyGallagher » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:00 am

Wolfgang630 wrote:
CoreyGallagher wrote:
Teen Girl Squad wrote:So far, my issues with Lonzo have been showing up, which is a bummer with how good Tatum has looked out of the gate. Runs to the 3 point line and passes it away, can't/hasn't really shown anything in the half court. AN inauspicious start, thats for sure (I know not to overreact to SL games, but it would be nice to have a reason to overreact).

SL is especially unkind to passers, it affected Simmons as well. When Ball's shot starts falling he'll be better off, just an off game imo.


Go watch highlights of Simmons from last year. He's by far better than what we're seeing from Lonzo. Simmons had me saying "holy ****" with his passes. He wasn't making a push the ball up the court passes. He was making passes not most people would even know you could make.

I'm a Sixers' fan, I watch Simmons' SL highlights every day, lol. He had a lot of turnovers because he made passes his teammates weren't expecting, I think Lonzo is playing it safer with his passing, but he's made a few like that as well.

Simmons also was able to use his elite athleticism, Lonzo needs his shot to do that, that's what I'm saying.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#168 » by Sprewell4Three » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:00 am

Jkam31 wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
The Evidence wrote:Lonzo's passing is overrated.... always looking to push the ball ahead because you don't have any other NBA skill doesn't make you a good passer.

Next we're gonna start hearing Laker fans asking for hockey assists to be officially counted in box scores.


His colleges stats say otherwise. No other NBA skill? Really, ya'll tune in just to hope a player fails because you're butthurt his daddy talks so much.


What's his skill set he can't do anything in pick and roll his assists are off fast break or making an extra pass


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Yep I get it. Lonzo will never learn how to run a pick and roll offense. He is what he is at 19 yrs old. Obviously players never get better especially when they have the best trainers in the world. SMH!
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#169 » by John Murdoch » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:00 am

Based Schroeder wrote:
John Murdoch wrote:Can we all agree that Ingram would have gone number 1 in this draft?

no

Name a better prospect than him in this draft class
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#170 » by PierceFan4ever » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:01 am

We now know Lonzo Ball can hit a complete wide open three
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#171 » by DaleyBlind » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:02 am

They are just letting Ball take wide open 3's, the disrespect, lol
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#172 » by PierceFan4ever » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:03 am

John Murdoch wrote:
Based Schroeder wrote:
John Murdoch wrote:Can we all agree that Ingram would have gone number 1 in this draft?

no

Name a better prospect than him in this draft class


Fultz, Tatum, Josh Jackson, Ball was a better propspect coming out too.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#173 » by mtron929 » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:03 am

With rookies, I actually prefer that they have large number of turnovers (along with good stats). Because it's better to be aggressive and try a lot of different things as opposed to being safe. The turnovers are eventually go away as the game slows down.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#174 » by meatball sub » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:03 am

Why the hell do they keep mentioning Kobe when talking about Ball? Terrible. Shameful. Irresponsible.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#175 » by XtremeDunkz » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:03 am

John Murdoch wrote:
Based Schroeder wrote:
John Murdoch wrote:Can we all agree that Ingram would have gone number 1 in this draft?

no

Name a better prospect than him in this draft class


lol you can't compare a 2nd year player to any of these rookies.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#176 » by Magic Giannison » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:03 am

Lonzo looks terrible out there, especially his defense is atrocious, i guess he is anxious or something.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#177 » by ChiCityHoops34 » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:04 am

Trippinskarlo wrote:The way you know Lonzo gonna BUST is that collin cowherd Loves him.

Joking but srs.


Colin only watches West coast sports.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#178 » by Wolfgang630 » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:04 am

DaleyBlind wrote:They are just letting Ball take wide open 3's, the disrespect, lol


That's some Ricky Rubio or Rondo stuff they pulling lol.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#179 » by Trippinskarlo » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:04 am

Is Ingram beasting? Anyone got a quick statline I havent gotten to watch.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#180 » by Ice Trae » Sat Jul 8, 2017 2:04 am

John Murdoch wrote:
Based Schroeder wrote:
John Murdoch wrote:Can we all agree that Ingram would have gone number 1 in this draft?

no

Name a better prospect than him in this draft class

Fultz

I'm actually higher on Tatum than Ingram as well.

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