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Series Prediction

Celtics in 4
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15%
Celtics in 5
49
18%
Celtics in 6
55
21%
Celtics in 7
54
20%
76ers in 7
14
5%
76ers in 6
45
17%
76ers in 5
10
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Post#161 » by GeorgeMarcus » Wed May 2, 2018 4:00 pm

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I mean you guys have Embiid. That's about it though for mismatches. And it looks like Stevens was already content with just giving them that one and not double teaming

Well nobody can stop Simmons from scoring 18 points (and 7 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals, 1 block) in his worst game of the playoffs, so that's an obvious mismatch.
Not really. The Celtics have multiple guys to throw onto Simmons and none of them have physical mismatch woes like JJ or Bellineli do.

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Simmons is a mismatch for any team. I wouldn't let one game skew your opinion too much.
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Post#162 » by ballup » Wed May 2, 2018 4:04 pm

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commentatorer wrote:Well nobody can stop Simmons from scoring 18 points (and 7 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals, 1 block) in his worst game of the playoffs, so that's an obvious mismatch.
Not really. The Celtics have multiple guys to throw onto Simmons and none of them have physical mismatch woes like JJ or Bellineli do.

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Simmons is a mismatch for any team. I wouldn't let one game skew your opinion too much.
You realize the Celtics are loaded in the forward spot? These are the guys guarding Simmons: Tatum, Ojeleye, Morris, Horford, Smart, and maybe Brown if he comes back. None of them are defensive slouches on the perimeter. Where is the mismatch there lol?

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Post#163 » by titlebound1 » Wed May 2, 2018 4:05 pm

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There's mismatches on both sides of the ball. I suspect we'll take better advantage of ours Game 2.


I mean you guys have Embiid. That's about it though for mismatches. And it looks like Stevens was already content with just giving them that one and not double teaming


Embiid is the biggest mismatch on the court, literally and figuratively. Say what you will about Smart's defense, but Simmons absolutely qualifies as a mismatch as well. Don't let the subpar Game 1 performance fool you.


Is he? The Celtics have multiple wings who can physically match up with him.
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Post#164 » by titlebound1 » Wed May 2, 2018 4:09 pm

SuperDario wrote:
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commentatorer wrote:Well nobody can stop Simmons from scoring 18 points (and 7 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals, 1 block) in his worst game of the playoffs, so that's an obvious mismatch.
Not really. The Celtics have multiple guys to throw onto Simmons and none of them have physical mismatch woes like JJ or Bellineli do.

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Simmons is a mismatch for any team. I wouldn't let one game skew your opinion too much.


It's not just one game. He's a one dimensional player. A lot like rondo was for us for all those years. He's not a physical mismatch like Embiid is. That one is obvious. But Horford, Tatum and Rozier will case a lot more match up problems than Simmons will.
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Post#165 » by GeorgeMarcus » Wed May 2, 2018 4:09 pm

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ballup wrote:Not really. The Celtics have multiple guys to throw onto Simmons and none of them have physical mismatch woes like JJ or Bellineli do.

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Simmons is a mismatch for any team. I wouldn't let one game skew your opinion too much.
You realize the Celtics are loaded in the forward spot? These are the guys guarding Simmons: Tatum, Ojeleye, Morris, Horford, Smart, and maybe Brown if he comes back. None of them are defensive slouches on the perimeter. Where is the mismatch there lol?

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The Heat have an array of defensive forwards too like Winslow, Johnson, and Richardson. How'd that work out for them? Smart is probably best suited for the job but Simmons still has 6 inches on him.
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Post#166 » by GeorgeMarcus » Wed May 2, 2018 4:12 pm

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ballup wrote:Not really. The Celtics have multiple guys to throw onto Simmons and none of them have physical mismatch woes like JJ or Bellineli do.

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Simmons is a mismatch for any team. I wouldn't let one game skew your opinion too much.


It's not just one game. He's a one dimensional player. A lot like rondo was for us for all those years. He's not a physical mismatch like Embiid is. That one is obvious. But Horford, Tatum and Rozier will case a lot more match up problems than Simmons will.


Simmons is NOT a one-dimensional player... He's a 3pt shot away from being one of the most complete players the game has ever seen.
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Post#167 » by kuclas » Wed May 2, 2018 4:13 pm

It really comes down to Embiid. He's the franchise. He can foil any defensive or offensive game plan. Issue is Embiid has maybe 30 minutes max sustainability in him each game. He can't go 40 plus minutes like Lebron.

Say what you want about Horford and how great he is playing. Stevens does not want Horford guarding Embiid full time on the defensive end and is counting on Baynes to physically matchup and save Horford's energy. We will see if Baynes gets two quick fouls whether Stevens brings Horford to guard Embiid full time. That's not ideal for Boston.

Embiid on the defensive end has to just stay within reach of Horford and not cheat to cover the interior. Let boston get their 2 points. Baynes....just leave him open all game for the 3 point shot. If he hits it, so be it. But if guarding Horford who's shooting 42% from 3 point range, don't let him have wide 3 point open shots. I'd also settle for horford hitting wide open 2 point shots. Just the name of the game these days where 3 points is worth more than 2 points. So give them the 2 points.
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Post#168 » by estendius » Wed May 2, 2018 4:19 pm

The C’s plays very good in their home court this postseason. Hope they can protect it in game 2.
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Post#169 » by ballup » Wed May 2, 2018 4:21 pm

SuperDario wrote:
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SuperDario wrote:
Simmons is a mismatch for any team. I wouldn't let one game skew your opinion too much.
You realize the Celtics are loaded in the forward spot? These are the guys guarding Simmons: Tatum, Ojeleye, Morris, Horford, Smart, and maybe Brown if he comes back. None of them are defensive slouches on the perimeter. Where is the mismatch there lol?

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The Heat have an array of defensive forwards too like Winslow, Johnson, and Richardson. How'd that work out for them? Smart is probably best suited for the job but Simmons still has 6 inches on him.


It‘s not a mismatch if you can‘t explain what advantage Simmons has over his matchup.

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Post#170 » by commentatorer » Wed May 2, 2018 4:26 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Yep. Three more games like that from Simmons you guys will be watching the Celtics in the ECF. By the way, don't forget Simmons 7 turnovers.


Boston scored a total of 7 points off the 7 turnovers by Ben Simmons.
and 3 of those points were in the final 2 minutes of the already decided game.
and 2 of those points were after Celtics missed shot and offensive rebound.

1stQ 7:11 = Ben Simmons out of bounds bad pass turnover
1stQ 6:53 = Jayson Tatum lost ball turnover (Robert Covington steals)

1stQ 5:01 = Ben Simmons lost ball turnover (Terry Rozier steals)
1stQ 4:59 = Marco Belinelli shooting foul
1stQ 4:59 = Jayson Tatum makes free throw 1 of 2
1stQ 4:59 = Jayson Tatum makes free throw 2 of 2

1stQ 4:47 = Ben Simmons offensive charge
1stQ 4:26 = Terry Rozier misses 16-foot pullup jump shot
1stQ 4:23 = Ersan Ilyasova defensive rebound

2ndQ 1:07 = Ben Simmons traveling
2ndQ 0:45 = Terry Rozier misses 23-foot step back jumpshot
2ndQ 0:43 = 76ers defensive team rebound

3rdQ 1:09 = Ben Simmons bad pass
3rdQ 0:59 = Ben Simmons blocks Shane Larkin 's 3-foot driving layup
3rdQ 0:55 = Joel Embiid defensive rebound

3rdQ 0:53 = Ben Simmons offensive foul
3rdQ 0:44 = Marcus Morris misses 19-foot pullup jump shot
3rdQ 0:40 = Marcus Smart offensive rebound
3rdQ 0:40 = Marcus Smart makes two point shot

4thQ 2:16 = Ben Simmons traveling
4thQ 1:54 = Terry Rozier makes 27-foot three point jumper (Marcus Smart assists)
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Post#171 » by PierceFan4ever » Wed May 2, 2018 4:26 pm

SuperDario wrote:
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SuperDario wrote:
Simmons is a mismatch for any team. I wouldn't let one game skew your opinion too much.


It's not just one game. He's a one dimensional player. A lot like rondo was for us for all those years. He's not a physical mismatch like Embiid is. That one is obvious. But Horford, Tatum and Rozier will case a lot more match up problems than Simmons will.


Simmons is NOT a one-dimensional player... He's a 3pt shot away from being one of the most complete players the game has ever seen.


3 point shot? Dude needs to work on starting to drill midrange shots at a consistent rate before talking about the 3 ball. Simmons is already a good player without it but if he really wants to take the next step he needs to work his ass off shooting much like Lebron did although Lebron was never this bad shooting. He also needs to occasionally attempt 3’s or shoot midrange shots just to get a feel for it in game. Celtics defense on him is pretty simple since they know Ben will never shoot. His shooting is a big problem if he ever wants to catch that super high ceiling imo. And right now he has a lot of work to do because it’s not even close to being average. He should have taken a step or two on shooting the ball since he left LSU but right now he’s the same guy but obviously better at everything he does well already from the start.
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Post#172 » by Blaze4G » Wed May 2, 2018 4:34 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:Yep. Three more games like that from Simmons you guys will be watching the Celtics in the ECF. By the way, don't forget Simmons 7 turnovers.


Boston scored a total of 7 points off the 7 turnovers by Ben Simmons.
and 3 of those points were in the final 2 minutes of the already decided game.
and 2 of those points were after Celtics missed shot and offensive rebound.

1stQ 7:11 = Ben Simmons out of bounds bad pass turnover
1stQ 6:53 = Jayson Tatum lost ball turnover (Robert Covington steals)

1stQ 5:01 = Ben Simmons lost ball turnover (Terry Rozier steals)
1stQ 4:59 = Marco Belinelli shooting foul
1stQ 4:59 = Jayson Tatum makes free throw 1 of 2
1stQ 4:59 = Jayson Tatum makes free throw 2 of 2

1stQ 4:47 = Ben Simmons offensive charge
1stQ 4:26 = Terry Rozier misses 16-foot pullup jump shot
1stQ 4:23 = Ersan Ilyasova defensive rebound

2ndQ 1:07 = Ben Simmons traveling
2ndQ 0:45 = Terry Rozier misses 23-foot step back jumpshot
2ndQ 0:43 = 76ers defensive team rebound

3rdQ 1:09 = Ben Simmons bad pass
3rdQ 0:59 = Ben Simmons blocks Shane Larkin 's 3-foot driving layup
3rdQ 0:55 = Joel Embiid defensive rebound

3rdQ 0:53 = Ben Simmons offensive foul
3rdQ 0:44 = Marcus Morris misses 19-foot pullup jump shot
3rdQ 0:40 = Marcus Smart offensive rebound
3rdQ 0:40 = Marcus Smart makes two point shot

4thQ 2:16 = Ben Simmons traveling
4thQ 1:54 = Terry Rozier makes 27-foot three point jumper (Marcus Smart assists)

What's your point? Is this suppose to be an excuse for saying his turnovers were fine since Celtics only for 7 points from 7 turnovers?

You do realize 7 turnovers = possible 21 point swing in favor of Philly right?

So yes, Celtics scored 7 points off 7 turnovers in addition to Philly losing a possible 21 points.
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Post#173 » by kuclas » Wed May 2, 2018 4:42 pm

I’ve always wonder with Simmons broken foot. He still had use of his upper body even during rehab.

Embiid worked on his jump shot during his injury seasons.

But Simmons doesn’t work on his jump shot while out all of last year. Will he work on the jump shot this summer? Or is he just depending on his natural ability? Or does Simmons end up like a 6 foot 10 Version of Rondo? Who was damn pretty good for 5-6 year but never made the big jump to elite status.
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Post#174 » by Tai » Wed May 2, 2018 4:42 pm

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dukes_wild wrote:Still think Philly wins this series.


I don't know, has a team ever won a series after being down 1-0? This one might be over.

Not trying to make some crazy hot take by that comment, just saying people are really overreacting. Rozier/Tatum/Horford all had what could end up being their best games of the series, while Philly couldn't play any worse tbh

Philly is not shooting 19% from 3 again this series that's for sure.


Well the real hot take was thinking the Celtics would lose in the 1st round (and I know you made this with Kyrie healthy don't play), but anyway. :lol:
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Post#175 » by commentatorer » Wed May 2, 2018 4:43 pm

Blaze4G wrote:
commentatorer wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Yep. Three more games like that from Simmons you guys will be watching the Celtics in the ECF. By the way, don't forget Simmons 7 turnovers.


Boston scored a total of 7 points off the 7 turnovers by Ben Simmons.
and 3 of those points were in the final 2 minutes of the already decided game.
and 2 of those points were after Celtics missed shot and offensive rebound.

1stQ 7:11 = Ben Simmons out of bounds bad pass turnover
1stQ 6:53 = Jayson Tatum lost ball turnover (Robert Covington steals)

1stQ 5:01 = Ben Simmons lost ball turnover (Terry Rozier steals)
1stQ 4:59 = Marco Belinelli shooting foul
1stQ 4:59 = Jayson Tatum makes free throw 1 of 2
1stQ 4:59 = Jayson Tatum makes free throw 2 of 2

1stQ 4:47 = Ben Simmons offensive charge
1stQ 4:26 = Terry Rozier misses 16-foot pullup jump shot
1stQ 4:23 = Ersan Ilyasova defensive rebound

2ndQ 1:07 = Ben Simmons traveling
2ndQ 0:45 = Terry Rozier misses 23-foot step back jumpshot
2ndQ 0:43 = 76ers defensive team rebound

3rdQ 1:09 = Ben Simmons bad pass
3rdQ 0:59 = Ben Simmons blocks Shane Larkin 's 3-foot driving layup
3rdQ 0:55 = Joel Embiid defensive rebound

3rdQ 0:53 = Ben Simmons offensive foul
3rdQ 0:44 = Marcus Morris misses 19-foot pullup jump shot
3rdQ 0:40 = Marcus Smart offensive rebound
3rdQ 0:40 = Marcus Smart makes two point shot

4thQ 2:16 = Ben Simmons traveling
4thQ 1:54 = Terry Rozier makes 27-foot three point jumper (Marcus Smart assists)

What's your point? Is this suppose to be an excuse for saying his turnovers were fine since Celtics only for 7 points from 7 turnovers?

You do realize 7 turnovers = possible 21 point swing in favor of Philly right?

So yes, Celtics scored 7 points off 7 turnovers in addition to Philly losing a possible 21 points.

3 of those points were in the final 2 minutes of the game, when the game was WELL OVER.
So all you are talking about is Boston scoring FOUR points off Simmons turnovers while the game was still undecided.
And do you really think Philly would have made 7 treys on those 7 lost possessions? Philly made only 5 of 26 trey attempts :lol:
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Post#176 » by PierceFan4ever » Wed May 2, 2018 4:50 pm

commentatorer wrote:
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commentatorer wrote:
Boston scored a total of 7 points off the 7 turnovers by Ben Simmons.
and 3 of those points were in the final 2 minutes of the already decided game.
and 2 of those points were after Celtics missed shot and offensive rebound.

1stQ 7:11 = Ben Simmons out of bounds bad pass turnover
1stQ 6:53 = Jayson Tatum lost ball turnover (Robert Covington steals)

1stQ 5:01 = Ben Simmons lost ball turnover (Terry Rozier steals)
1stQ 4:59 = Marco Belinelli shooting foul
1stQ 4:59 = Jayson Tatum makes free throw 1 of 2
1stQ 4:59 = Jayson Tatum makes free throw 2 of 2

1stQ 4:47 = Ben Simmons offensive charge
1stQ 4:26 = Terry Rozier misses 16-foot pullup jump shot
1stQ 4:23 = Ersan Ilyasova defensive rebound

2ndQ 1:07 = Ben Simmons traveling
2ndQ 0:45 = Terry Rozier misses 23-foot step back jumpshot
2ndQ 0:43 = 76ers defensive team rebound

3rdQ 1:09 = Ben Simmons bad pass
3rdQ 0:59 = Ben Simmons blocks Shane Larkin 's 3-foot driving layup
3rdQ 0:55 = Joel Embiid defensive rebound

3rdQ 0:53 = Ben Simmons offensive foul
3rdQ 0:44 = Marcus Morris misses 19-foot pullup jump shot
3rdQ 0:40 = Marcus Smart offensive rebound
3rdQ 0:40 = Marcus Smart makes two point shot

4thQ 2:16 = Ben Simmons traveling
4thQ 1:54 = Terry Rozier makes 27-foot three point jumper (Marcus Smart assists)

What's your point? Is this suppose to be an excuse for saying his turnovers were fine since Celtics only for 7 points from 7 turnovers?

You do realize 7 turnovers = possible 21 point swing in favor of Philly right?

So yes, Celtics scored 7 points off 7 turnovers in addition to Philly losing a possible 21 points.

3 of those points were in the final 2 minutes of the game, when the game was WELL OVER.
So all you are talking about is Boston scoring FOUR points off Simmons turnovers while the game was still undecided.
And do you really think Philly would have made 7 treys on those 7 lost possessions? Philly made only 5 of 26 trey attempts :lol:


Who cares? Turnovers are bad in general and you don’t want one of your best players committing 7 of them. You also need to realize those 7 turnovers eliminated Philly’s chances of scoring on offense which was why they didn’t score as high they normally do. So turnovers factors on both ends. Crowd gets more into the game after every turnovers, the opposing team gains more confidence, etc.
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Post#177 » by GeorgeMarcus » Wed May 2, 2018 5:01 pm

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ballup wrote:You realize the Celtics are loaded in the forward spot? These are the guys guarding Simmons: Tatum, Ojeleye, Morris, Horford, Smart, and maybe Brown if he comes back. None of them are defensive slouches on the perimeter. Where is the mismatch there lol?

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The Heat have an array of defensive forwards too like Winslow, Johnson, and Richardson. How'd that work out for them? Smart is probably best suited for the job but Simmons still has 6 inches on him.


It‘s not a mismatch if you can‘t explain what advantage Simmons has over his matchup.

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He's bigger and more athletic than every player you listed. I didn't think I needed to spell that out.
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Post#178 » by commentatorer » Wed May 2, 2018 5:02 pm

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Blaze4G wrote:What's your point? Is this suppose to be an excuse for saying his turnovers were fine since Celtics only for 7 points from 7 turnovers?

You do realize 7 turnovers = possible 21 point swing in favor of Philly right?

So yes, Celtics scored 7 points off 7 turnovers in addition to Philly losing a possible 21 points.

3 of those points were in the final 2 minutes of the game, when the game was WELL OVER.
So all you are talking about is Boston scoring FOUR points off Simmons turnovers while the game was still undecided.
And do you really think Philly would have made 7 treys on those 7 lost possessions? Philly made only 5 of 26 trey attempts :lol:


Who cares? Turnovers are bad in general and you don’t want one of your best players committing 7 of them. You also need to realize those 7 turnovers eliminated Philly’s chances of scoring on offense which was why they didn’t score as high they normally do. So turnovers factors on both ends. Crowd gets more into the game after every turnovers, the opposing team gains more confidence, etc.

Of course turnovers are considered BAD, but let's not pretend Simmons was the reason why Philly lost, it was clearly the rusty trey-shooters.
Simmons got the ball to those guys, and they missed, including several wide open.
I don't think Boston will be happy in Game 2 if Philly get those same looks.
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Post#179 » by Darth Celtic » Wed May 2, 2018 5:04 pm

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Simmons is a mismatch for any team. I wouldn't let one game skew your opinion too much.


It's not just one game. He's a one dimensional player. A lot like rondo was for us for all those years. He's not a physical mismatch like Embiid is. That one is obvious. But Horford, Tatum and Rozier will case a lot more match up problems than Simmons will.


Simmons is NOT a one-dimensional player... He's a 3pt shot away from being one of the most complete players the game has ever seen.

3 pt shot, jesus dude, let him get a 5ft shot first and work from there.
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Post#180 » by Darth Celtic » Wed May 2, 2018 5:06 pm

SuperDario wrote:
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The Heat have an array of defensive forwards too like Winslow, Johnson, and Richardson. How'd that work out for them? Smart is probably best suited for the job but Simmons still has 6 inches on him.


It‘s not a mismatch if you can‘t explain what advantage Simmons has over his matchup.

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He's bigger and more athletic than every player you listed. I didn't think I needed to spell that out.


Bigger and more athletic, he's bigger and more athletic than Curry too, but I think I might take Curry in that matchup because he can shoot outside 5 feet.

We get it, in 5 years Simmons might be top 3 in the league, but to do that, he has to have at least the ability to make 30% of his jump shots. He's not Shaq.
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