2018/19 ROY/Rookie Discussion Thread (III)
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Mikal Bridges with an underrated 20/4/2/3 on 7/10 and 5/7 shooting with elite D.
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Young gun 6 wrote:Mikal Bridges with an underrated 20/4/2/3 on 7/10 and 5/7 shooting with elite D.
You should start watching Hawks games my friend. As you seen, Trae locks in, he is a solid defender. Ask Ayton when he did the post spin into a miss, Book when he tried to take him off the dribble and Okobo in the 4th. I think you owe Trae an apology.
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Pretty clear that Doncic is the star of this draft and a generational talent, but Trae has been showing a pulse this last month as well. It's early but Ayton at number 1 isn't going to age well I don't think.
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NY 567 wrote:Pretty clear that Doncic is the star of this draft and a generational talent, but Trae has been showing a pulse this last month as well. It's early but Ayton at number 1 isn't going to age well I don't think.
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So looks like Kurucs might've hit a rookie wall.
In last 4 games, in three of them he shot bellow 20%! from the field.
Still is hustling on D, and getting rebounds. But now there is probably already an scouting report on him, so he doesn't catch guys of guard by how quick he is. So dude just got blocked a ton in those last game, and just overall has been finishing terribly.
His three has also been falling of the cliff. Dude has no legs it seems (thats also could be an issue with his drives), and basically every shot hes firing is well short.
I mean, it was expected at some point. He was super raw out of Spains 2nd league. In Play-off hes gonna be a good spark of the bench for 10-15 minutes, but now they have to ride with him.
In last 4 games, in three of them he shot bellow 20%! from the field.
Still is hustling on D, and getting rebounds. But now there is probably already an scouting report on him, so he doesn't catch guys of guard by how quick he is. So dude just got blocked a ton in those last game, and just overall has been finishing terribly.
His three has also been falling of the cliff. Dude has no legs it seems (thats also could be an issue with his drives), and basically every shot hes firing is well short.
I mean, it was expected at some point. He was super raw out of Spains 2nd league. In Play-off hes gonna be a good spark of the bench for 10-15 minutes, but now they have to ride with him.
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NY 567 wrote:Pretty clear that Doncic is the star of this draft and a generational talent, but Trae has been showing a pulse this last month as well. It's early but Ayton at number 1 isn't going to age well I don't think.
Trae had a rough November.
December, January and start of Feb have been on the upswing.
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Good aggressive scoring game from Luka, it's only a matter of time until he has his first 40-point game, which I guess must be pretty rare for a rookie. The three is still a little inconsistent even within games, but you can see that he is going to be a great shooter in his prime/peak.
Lots of clean makes, from all over the place, and if you take out the heaves, I believe his season percentage is much higher. I like the fact that he takes those though, not many players in featured roles do it in this league. He also continues to be an excellent, borderline elite rebounder at his position, which was of course his most translatable skill, so that was never really in doubt.
One on one defense needs some work, but it's not bad, he uses his fouls well, and even if gets beaten, funnels his man into the defender well, he will be a plus defender very soon, may be as soon as next year, especially if KP is healthy and he is our shotblocker in the middle. What a rookie campaign overall, and to think I would have been satisfied with a 13/5/5 year, or something like that.
Lots of clean makes, from all over the place, and if you take out the heaves, I believe his season percentage is much higher. I like the fact that he takes those though, not many players in featured roles do it in this league. He also continues to be an excellent, borderline elite rebounder at his position, which was of course his most translatable skill, so that was never really in doubt.
One on one defense needs some work, but it's not bad, he uses his fouls well, and even if gets beaten, funnels his man into the defender well, he will be a plus defender very soon, may be as soon as next year, especially if KP is healthy and he is our shotblocker in the middle. What a rookie campaign overall, and to think I would have been satisfied with a 13/5/5 year, or something like that.
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NY 567 wrote:Pretty clear that Doncic is the star of this draft and a generational talent, but Trae has been showing a pulse this last month as well. It's early but Ayton at number 1 isn't going to age well I don't think.
Ayton's been coming off an injury and somewhat hit the rookie wall before, but he is still a tremendous talent. If he can develop his motor and a killer instinct that Luka and Young seems to already possess, he will be a perennial All-Star. I'm not saying I wouldn't have thoughts about not drafting Luka if I were a Suns fan, but at the same time I would still be optimistic about his chances of eventually becoming the best player of the class. He has the raw talent and skills to do it, or at least to become a great player on his own.
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jayu70 wrote:NY 567 wrote:Pretty clear that Doncic is the star of this draft and a generational talent, but Trae has been showing a pulse this last month as well. It's early but Ayton at number 1 isn't going to age well I don't think.
Trae had a rough November. December, January and start of Feb have been on the upswing.
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Johnny Firpo wrote:NY 567 wrote:Pretty clear that Doncic is the star of this draft and a generational talent, but Trae has been showing a pulse this last month as well. It's early but Ayton at number 1 isn't going to age well I don't think.
Ayton's been coming off an injury and somewhat hit the rookie wall before, but he is still a tremendous talent. If he can develop his motor and a killer instinct that Luka and Young seems to already possess, he will be a perennial All-Star. I'm not saying I wouldn't have thoughts about not drafting Luka if I were a Suns fan, but at the same time I would still be optimistic about his chances of eventually becoming the best player of the class. He has the raw talent and skills to do it, or at least to become a great player on his own.
Nah Luka is and will remain the best player of his class. He's the best rookie in a long time.
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PhilBlackson wrote:Nah Luka is and will remain the best player of his class. He's the best rookie in a long time.
I do think he is the best talent by a significant margin, but he will need to continue to work on his body.
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Frank Jackson with 25. He's slowly gaining confidence to look to use his athleticism to score. Now he just needs to re-find his shot and start putting dribble moves together.

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Trae by month
October: 19/3/6 on 43/34/76
November: 14/3/8 on 35/20/86
December: 15/3/7 on 43/34/64
January: 19/4/7 on 49/34/86
So slowly getting better although his 3 ball is still a work in progress and defense is very poor.
If you take out that poor November he has been pretty decent especially of late!
October: 19/3/6 on 43/34/76
November: 14/3/8 on 35/20/86
December: 15/3/7 on 43/34/64
January: 19/4/7 on 49/34/86
So slowly getting better although his 3 ball is still a work in progress and defense is very poor.
If you take out that poor November he has been pretty decent especially of late!
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Young gun 6 wrote:Trae by month
October: 19/3/6 on 43/34/76
November: 14/3/8 on 35/20/86
December: 15/3/7 on 43/34/64
January: 19/4/7 on 49/34/86
So slowly getting better although his 3 ball is still a work in progress and defense is very poor.
If you take out that poor November he has been pretty decent especially of late!
As of late he's been the best he has been over the last 10 games he is around this line
23/9/5 on 46%/33%/78%
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Duke4life831 wrote:The Bagley being a bust talk from before the season isnt looking to good right now.
Same is true for the talk about Trae Young.
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The-Power wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:The Bagley being a bust talk from before the season isnt looking to good right now.
Same is true for the talk about Trae Young.
my Bagley bust talk was before pre season, proving me wrong.





