contestedlayups wrote:Slim Tubby wrote:contestedlayups wrote:
Um, yes? Just off of simple ppg, Rose - 18, Taj - 10, Saric - 10, Tyus - 6. That's 44 ppg a game right there. All 7 of those players combined won't average close to that. Good luck!
Gibson is 34 years old, past his prime and apparently the NYK wanted to scoop up every mediocre PF free agent they could get their hands on this offseason. Rose is 30 years old and his knees are 84. Saric has lost his shooting touch, will be seeking a large contract after this year and he was used to acquire Culver. MEM signed Tyus to a $9M/year contract for a perennial back-up PG. It’s not clear to me why you are commenting on a Wolves team and Rosas when it’s blatantly obvious that you know nothing about this team, the players they let walk and the young players they acquired.
When you factor in contracts, player age and potential to grow, there isn’t a GM in the league that would criticize what Rosas has been able to do taking over the roster and cap mess that Thibs put us in. Good luck is right...of you coming back down to Earth.
When a franchise lets veterans who were productive on a team leave in exchange for young players, especially ones who have perennially underachieved throughout their careers (Vonleh, Bell), it has never yielded good results in the history of the NBA. Please name me one time where a franchise did what Minnesota did (replacing productive veterans with young players/unproductive veterans) and their win total improved the next season.
It's blatantly obvious that I do know particularly a lot about Rose, Gibson, and Vonleh, as those are three players that came through the Chicago Bulls organization, a team I've been a fan of my whole life. However, I'm not being biased towards those players in the least. I completely agree with you that Gibson is past his prime, although he was still serviceable off of the bench last year, and that Rose has knees that won't allow him to play more than 60 games, although he did have the most efficient year of his career last year.
Saying that Saric "lost his shooting touch" when the guy is 24 years old shows me that you don't know what you're talking about! I like Jarrett Culver, I actually was hoping the Wolves would pass on him so that he could fall to the Bulls. However, Culver will not replace Saric's scoring output this year.
Yes, Rosas did well in terms of shedding contracts that will allow Minnesota to operate below the luxury tax, since Wiggins and KAT make so much a year. Long-term, it was clearly the right move to let Rose and Gibson go. However, like my original point states, they will not win as many games as last year. Rose, Gibson and Saric made up so much of their bench scoring, and could fill in admirably in spot starts, that asking players like Shabazz Napier, Noah Vonleh, and Jordan Bell to replicate those roles is too great of a task. Anyone expecting Minnesota to make some sort of leap is
Please feel free to let me know of any reasonable Wolves fan predicting these moves will propel us to the WC Finals in 2019/20. Rome wasn't built in a day and the moves Rosas is making are designed to have the roster and cap situation in a better place come the 2020/21 season when Teague is off the books and we can stretch Dieng. Vonleh and Bell combined will easily surpass what Gibson would provide. Rose is perpetually injured, Layman could replace Saric's scoring and we weren't going to sign a back-up PG in Tyus for $9M/year when Napier, on a minimum deal, averaged 3 points more per game last season. RoCo and Teague were injured and weren't rushed back when it became obvious we weren't making the playoffs. Culver was the #6 pick in the draft and hopefully provides great help on both sides of the ball.
Personally, I'd rather see what the younger guys bring to the table this season than having to watch retreads like Gibson and Rose for another year. My best guess for 2019/20 would be 38-40 wins for the Wolves.
