Jason Tatum: I'm going to average over 20, make the All Star team, and the Celtics are going to the finals

[reload141]

Little by little with the Rozier nonsense and now this you can just see how ego driven Rozier, Brown, and Tatum were. Yet they decided to party in between back to back games in MIA. Yeah that's how you get better.

You’re right. No players in the league other than those guys have partied in between back to back games in MIA. None.

Young guys wanting to let off some steam every so often, give it a break.

[GeorgeMarcus]

I'm not even argueing who is the better player, i'm just pointing out his reasoning is terrible and more flawed than thinking the earth is flat.

You and I are in agreement. I believe you are misunderstanding -- my response is to Prokorov and his ridiculous assertion that Kemba Walker is a "loser" for not taking a G-League roster in Charlotte to the playoffs.

Oh , I know we are on the same page. I was just pointing out that's not even my arguement with the guy. He just posted in another thread the cavs could sneak in the playoffs ahead of the Celtics because of the huge drop off in Kanter/Walker from Horford/Kyrie.

Cavs won’t win 20 games

[Nazrmohamed]

3rd year is usually when players really establish themselves in the league Tatum might win most improved player next year. And I wouldn't write off Celtics getting to the finals, now that kyrie and scary terry is gone.

But Kanter

You mean the guy who started at Center for the WCF team averaging 30mpg in the playoffs?

Starting along defensive powerhouse Mo Harkless covering up for his bad defense i'm sure.

He has to be on your team to understand it. The Blazers didnt benefit from his presence so much as they didnt have many options. I love Kanter for what he can do, but what he cant do makes him a negative player and you'll just have to witness it for yourself.

I'll feel more comfortable betting on Tatum executing on all those deliverables than Kanter being a player you'll try to defend later on. Save this post. There only one thing Kanter will never fail at and that's never stfu.

[Triple7]

how about try and be humble and say you are just going to work hard and try to win as a team.

"I'm an actual genius when it comes to this game."

This! Talk about being humble!

[WuriderX]

real team player. Me and I.

[DusterBuster]

What else is he supposed to say, i'm going to average 10 points, the Celtics will not make the play offs and i'll have a 75 rating? Would that be the correct answer? Leave the kid alone, let him play the season and see what happens.

And yes of course the Celtics won't win the title this season, nobody with a brain would expect that. But a player has to say he wants to win it all otherwise people question his motor.

Fair points, but players always get in trouble when they predict actual numbers. He would have been better off being a bit more vague about how he thinks the year will play out personally and for his team. You know the whole "I expect big things from myself and our team next year" sorta stuff. It's more boring of an answer, but also opens you up to less criticism by fans (not that that matters in any way shape or form) than predicting specific numbers does.

He could be right about the Celtics making the finals, it wouldn't shock me to see them come out of the east - especially if Philly has the injury bug. But if Philly is healthy enough, I think they'd probably sweep the Celtics. As much as I love Kanter and his defense isn't quite as bad as his reputation would make you think, he's going to be a problem for the C's as their starting 5 man. His most effective role is really coming off the bench, not being a teams starter. You can get away with him being your starting C against some teams, but he will absolutely cost you games against teams that can exploit him.

[DusterBuster]

real team player. Me and I.

Yeah, I agree, this is probably what turns most fans off from Tatum. He seems to be pretty selfish - not much of a team leader. He's young, so there's plenty of time to grow into that, but as of right now he definitely seems to care more about his own stats than that of the team. I think Kemba will be a great mentor for him in that regard, hopefully.

[StojkoVrankovic]

real team player. Me and I.

He answered a direct question, try harder

[Prokorov]

Little by little with the Rozier nonsense and now this you can just see how ego driven Rozier, Brown, and Tatum were. Yet they decided to party in between back to back games in MIA. Yeah that's how you get better.

You’re right. No players in the league other than those guys have partied in between back to back games in MIA. None.

Young guys wanting to let off some steam every so often, give it a break.

Let off steam? is that what Brown committing a mortal sin vs. morris in training camp was?

[Darth Celtic]

Little by little with the Rozier nonsense and now this you can just see how ego driven Rozier, Brown, and Tatum were. Yet they decided to party in between back to back games in MIA. Yeah that's how you get better.

You’re right. No players in the league other than those guys have partied in between back to back games in MIA. None.

Young guys wanting to let off some steam every so often, give it a break.

Let off steam? is that what Brown committing a mortal sin vs. morris in training camp was?

sorry, what are you making up this time? I missed it.

[reload141]

Little by little with the Rozier nonsense and now this you can just see how ego driven Rozier, Brown, and Tatum were. Yet they decided to party in between back to back games in MIA. Yeah that's how you get better.

You’re right. No players in the league other than those guys have partied in between back to back games in MIA. None.

Young guys wanting to let off some steam every so often, give it a break.

Let off steam? is that what Brown committing a mortal sin vs. morris in training camp was?

I got enough stories about Kyrie and what he did in his last year with us to really show what kind of a person he was and how he conducted himself.

Being the veteran he is you'd think he would know better, Brown did some disappointing things which isn't right but he's a young guy working it out.

Ultimately Boston wasn't right for him, and he wasn't right for Boston. I think it will work out in Brooklyn though.

[apaark]

And they say Kyrie was the main problem...

Kyrie wasn't a good leader, but even if he was, I doubt it would have changed anything. There was juts too many egos there, too many immature players, and there was a coach who couldn't handle it at all, and only contrubuted to it by accomodating Hayward too much. Kyrie was the most obvious problem, but he wasn't the main one.

Accomodating Hayward, i hate this narrative. The rest of your statement is fine.

Yes Stevens tried to force Hayward back into the starting role, but that was for exactly 16 games at the start of the season. Thats roughly one fifth of the season, afterwards he was relegated to the bench. If the other players (and some voiced this publicly) felt Hayward hasn't earned the starting spot, they were correct. But they should have gotten their own mindset in order once Stevens pulled the plug on Hayward starting. What happend the rest of the season, the other 70 games? Yes Stevens made the mistake by giving Hayward to much time early on, but he corrected it and the chemestry was still dogs**t for the rest of the season.

The one to blame for most Bostons failure last season is Ainge. He built the roster and knew that 4 of the top 8 rotation players were in contract years. Why would go into the season with so much money on the line. And why didnt't he traded someone at the deadline when the chemestry was obivously (for everyone) horrible. All four are gone now.

What also isn't talked about is how both the Lakers and Celtics under-performed. All that talk about trading all those young players for AD killed team chemistry and encouraged ME ball. GMs need to take a tough stance and tell trading partners that if you leak the proposed deal, the leak will be denied and the deal won't happen.

[Optms]

Not going to get there shooting Kobe jumpers.

Kobe taking Kobe jumpers led him to 7 finals but I see we are ignoring facts so whatever.

[L3GEND4RY]

Little by little with the Rozier nonsense and now this you can just see how ego driven Rozier, Brown, and Tatum were. Yet they decided to party in between back to back games in MIA. Yeah that's how you get better.

All three of the young guys were, and are the problem. The narrative that Kyrie was even a little at fault is incorrect. Feel better? FFS.

[StojkoVrankovic]

careful guys, board insider coming through

[GeorgeMarcus]

careful guys, board insider coming through

Thanks for the introduction but I don't have anything for you at this time

[MrBigShot]

I love his confidence.

lol @ anyone telling him to be humble. This is not the same as Kyrie who thinks he is genius off and on the court and says who cares when he has a horrendous shooting night, this is a young player striving to be great and publicly putting pressure on himself to live up to his expectations.

[Green89]

Yes, we did see how it ended... it ended better then any season that Kemba walker has ever had.

Same amount of games AD has played in the playoffs in one season. Does that make Kyrie as good as AD?

Kyrie's playoff stats last year.
9 games (which you focus on) 21pts a game

Kemba's last playoffs
7 games (again your focus) 22.7 ppg

How many playoff games you have played in and how far is not an indication of how good you are.

Lebron didn't play a game in the playoffs last year, does that make 16 teams of 5 all better than him?

You keep using crap like this to make your off the wall posts and I'll just keep slamming them back down into the trash like the trash arguments they are. It's embarrassing man. I'm actually embarrassed for you. I'm embarrassed for all the Nets fans that you are making look bad.

Be better.

again kyries worst playoffs on par with kemba's best.

only in celtics nation does being a career loser make you more of a winner then a guy with a ring and a great playoff resume.

how far you lead your team in the playoffs isnt an indicaiton of how good you are? lol thats that absurd.

is losing the goal are winning

Kyrie has better stats on better shooting with better efficiency and better playmaking while leading teams to better regular season records and more playoff success

yet somehow kemba is the better player despite statistically being worse and the better leader/winner despite losing season after losing season and never getting out of the first round

Kemba is a really good player, a fringe all-star/reserve all-star. be he isnt some great leader/winner/game changer. he is a volume scorer. he is westbrook without the playmaking, rebounding, defense, or game changing pace. He is the carmello of point gaurds... actually he isnt cause carmello actually had some regular season and playoff success

the excuse for kemba is "he didnt have good teammates". like that somehow means he is a winner? he sitll needs to prove it

You seem to be of the incorrect impression that during the playoff run that Kyrie got his ring, he was both the leader of that team in the playoffs, and the sole reason they won a ring. Keep feeling that way and you'll be in for a shocker when he doesn't lead your Nets to the title this year, and certainly not to a better record than the Celtics.

You'll also be quite sad when Tatum scores more this season than Kyrie.

[Blaze4G]

Little by little with the Rozier nonsense and now this you can just see how ego driven Rozier, Brown, and Tatum were. Yet they decided to party in between back to back games in MIA. Yeah that's how you get better.

You’re right. No players in the league other than those guys have partied in between back to back games in MIA. None.

Young guys wanting to let off some steam every so often, give it a break.

Let off steam? is that what Brown committing a mortal sin vs. morris in training camp was?

Darth Celtic and I are still waiting to hear your thoughts on taking Kyrie over AD since by your logic AD is a career loser and Kyrie isn't.

You're just going to continue pretending you didnt see his post or...?

[spacemonkey]

Not going to get there shooting Kobe jumpers.

Kobe taking Kobe jumpers led him to 7 finals but I see we are ignoring facts so whatever.

Hmm, yes, what could possibly be the difference between Jayson Tatum and Kobe Bryant taking Kobe jumpers.

Honestly drawing a blank, but way to get over-defensive and completely miss the point.