TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding"

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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#161 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:06 pm

NY 567 wrote:The fact that, instead of going straight to the authorities in fear of her life, she went and sold it to TMZ shows you that she knew she wasn't in any danger whatsoever and was baiting him. She's a gold digging parasite, nothing more.


yea, people are kind of missing this part for some reason.

she recorded him, baited him, weaponized his own child against him, got him to threaten her and instead of going to the police (which she would have if she REALLY felt threatened) she sells it to TMZ for a quick buck.

and ya'll want Cousins banned for this? give me a **** break. he shouldn't have said it, that should go without saying obviously, but to de-contexualize the situation does no one any good here.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#162 » by AbeVigodaLive » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:06 pm

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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#163 » by NBAFan93 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:06 pm

TheNewEra wrote:Imagine if this turns into a court case and the league has to suspend him ? This really could be it for him


League needs to do something. I will be surprised if they don’t. Silver and his advisors probably sitting in a meeting right now talking about what they should do.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#164 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:08 pm

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TheNewEra wrote:Imagine if this turns into a court case and the league has to suspend him ? This really could be it for him


League needs to do something. I will be surprised if they don’t. Silver and his advisors probably sitting in a meeting right now talking about what they should do.


Why does the league need to do something? They don't need to do anything.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#165 » by XxIronChainzxX » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:08 pm

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seems to be vulnerable too with a conniving mom that is willing to use him for her own agenda.

and plenty of dads are **** towards their exes but are good with their kids, gtfo. it's a completely different dynamic.


I'll take a conniving mom over a dad that threatens to murder someone in explicit detail :lol: His anger issues aren't relegated strictly to this woman, though. Dynamics change but the constant is that he struggles to control his temper. It doesn't appear to me that he's currently getting treatment, and if he isn't then that's even more reason to be concerned for the child.


again, the way he treats his clearly psychopathic ex is not indicative how he treats/will treat his son. there are plenty of fathers who have terrible relationships with their exes who are perfectly fine fathers in their own right.

and if you are on a crusade to take away the kids of all fathers who have semblances of anger issues, good luck with that. i'm sure that will help them with their anger issues.


There is a difference between having a poor relationship with your ex and threatening violence. I expect that the research would show that there is a correlation between uttering threats of violence to others - including but not limited to an ex - and violence directed towards children. I don't see why this wouldn't be a reason - or a factor - to take into account when determining custody and visitation rights. In fact, I am certain that it is a taken into account.

It's interesting to me that you find the ex to be "psychopathic" and that as far as I can tell this is the first time you've used that word, despite the fact that were talking about Cousins literally threatening bloody murder.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#166 » by TheNewEra » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:08 pm

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TheNewEra wrote:Imagine if this turns into a court case and the league has to suspend him ? This really could be it for him


League needs to do something. I will be surprised if they don’t. Silver and his advisors probably sitting in a meeting right now talking about what they should do.


Lakers probably release him for the roster spot now. Lebron likely won’t care it might irk AD and Rondo
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#167 » by dlts20 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:09 pm

packforfreedom wrote:maybe some context:

there are apprx 400.000 homicides per year all over the world. at least 50.000 of those are women killed by a partner, ex partner or family member.

So you better take those kind of threats serious and if you guys don't have a better idea than insulting the mother or women in general, yeah it makes you a bad person and the world would be better off without you.

Foh with that weak sauce. Some of you have obviously never met some horrible women/mothers and most laws (and simps) support their ability to get away with it. I'm not going to crucify him for this without more detail.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#168 » by XxIronChainzxX » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:10 pm

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
NBAFan93 wrote:
TheNewEra wrote:Imagine if this turns into a court case and the league has to suspend him ? This really could be it for him


League needs to do something. I will be surprised if they don’t. Silver and his advisors probably sitting in a meeting right now talking about what they should do.


Why does the league need to do something? They don't need to do anything.


Putting aside the morality of it, like with Sterling, this is a potential PR nightmare.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#169 » by AbeVigodaLive » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:15 pm

XxIronChainzxX wrote:
Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
NBAFan93 wrote:
League needs to do something. I will be surprised if they don’t. Silver and his advisors probably sitting in a meeting right now talking about what they should do.


Why does the league need to do something? They don't need to do anything.


Putting aside the morality of it, like with Sterling, this is a potential PR nightmare.



Right now it is. It's sort of the perfect storm.

- Slow time. Everybody is searching for NBA stories during the offseason doldrums.
- 365/24/7 NBA news cycle.
- Me Too movement... women's empowerment
- Cousins is mostly on an island on the PR circuit. Granted, he's technically a Lakers player. But they have no allegiance to him, thus, have no real motivation to help protect him here. Furthermore, even his agent isn't much help. It's a new guy, right? And a guy no longer looking at massive commission. Heck, Cousins might even be dropped.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#170 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:18 pm

XxIronChainzxX wrote:
Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
NBAFan93 wrote:
League needs to do something. I will be surprised if they don’t. Silver and his advisors probably sitting in a meeting right now talking about what they should do.


Why does the league need to do something? They don't need to do anything.


Putting aside the morality of it, like with Sterling, this is a potential PR nightmare.


This is nothing compared to the Sterling situation. If the NBA did nothing, almost no one would care.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#171 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:18 pm

XxIronChainzxX wrote:
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I'll take a conniving mom over a dad that threatens to murder someone in explicit detail :lol: His anger issues aren't relegated strictly to this woman, though. Dynamics change but the constant is that he struggles to control his temper. It doesn't appear to me that he's currently getting treatment, and if he isn't then that's even more reason to be concerned for the child.


again, the way he treats his clearly psychopathic ex is not indicative how he treats/will treat his son. there are plenty of fathers who have terrible relationships with their exes who are perfectly fine fathers in their own right.

and if you are on a crusade to take away the kids of all fathers who have semblances of anger issues, good luck with that. i'm sure that will help them with their anger issues.


There is a difference between having a poor relationship with your ex and threatening violence. I expect that the research would show that there is a correlation between uttering threats of violence to others - including but not limited to an ex - and violence directed towards children. I don't see why this wouldn't be a reason - or a factor - to take into account when determining custody and visitation rights. In fact, I am certain that it is a taken into account.

It's interesting to me that you find the ex to be "psychopathic" and that as far as I can tell this is the first time you've used that word, despite the fact that were talking about Cousins literally threatening bloody murder.


Because recording someone while you're talking about withholding his child from him so you can sell the tape to TMZ is psychotic. do you disagree?

and Cousins has a lot of anger issues he needs to resolve, this has been talked about on here and everywhere else ad nauseam, and he obviously shouldn't have taken it that far. not sure what else should be said about that. what do I need to say to prove my condemnation to you? should I call for the NBA to completely ban him? can I sit at the cool kids table then?
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#172 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:18 pm

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
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TheNewEra wrote:Imagine if this turns into a court case and the league has to suspend him ? This really could be it for him


League needs to do something. I will be surprised if they don’t. Silver and his advisors probably sitting in a meeting right now talking about what they should do.


Why does the league need to do something? They don't need to do anything.


One of their players threatened to shoot a woman in her head. they absolutely need to do something
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#173 » by NBAFan93 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:19 pm

XxIronChainzxX wrote:
Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
NBAFan93 wrote:
League needs to do something. I will be surprised if they don’t. Silver and his advisors probably sitting in a meeting right now talking about what they should do.


Why does the league need to do something? They don't need to do anything.


Putting aside the morality of it, like with Sterling, this is a potential PR nightmare.


The gun angle makes it even worse. It’s a horrible look for the league.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#174 » by TheNewEra » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:19 pm

Cousins is wrong for this no doubt shouldn’t have gone that far. God damn though that has to be some severe hate in your heart as the baby mother with all he’s going through with his career and health to record an emotional situation for one of the most important days of his life!


Then you sold the damn tape to TMZ instead of just filing a report to the police if you truly felt threaten? That kid is definitely hearing “daddy ain’t ****” at home I can sense it from personal interactions
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#175 » by XxIronChainzxX » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:21 pm

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NY 567 wrote:The fact that, instead of going straight to the authorities in fear of her life, she went and sold it to TMZ shows you that she knew she wasn't in any danger whatsoever and was baiting him. She's a gold digging parasite, nothing more.


yea, people are kind of missing this part for some reason.

she recorded him, baited him, weaponized his own child against him, got him to threaten her and instead of going to the police (which she would have if she REALLY felt threatened) she sells it to TMZ for a quick buck.

and ya'll want Cousins banned for this? give me a **** break. he shouldn't have said it, that should go without saying obviously, but to de-contexualize the situation does no one any good here.


No one is missing that part. Cousins didn't know he was being recorded, and the tape wasn't sold to TMZ yet as he was threatening to shoot the mother of his child in the head. None of this is relevant to Cousins' culpability or his blameworthiness.

But what is interesting - again - is that you focus on whether she "REALLY felt threatened". Are you saying it's okay to threaten to violently murder someone if they don't think you're being serious?
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Post#176 » by Swish1906 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:21 pm

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NY 567 wrote:The fact that, instead of going straight to the authorities in fear of her life, she went and sold it to TMZ shows you that she knew she wasn't in any danger whatsoever and was baiting him. She's a gold digging parasite, nothing more.


yea, people are kind of missing this part for some reason.

she recorded him, baited him, weaponized his own child against him, got him to threaten her and instead of going to the police (which she would have if she REALLY felt threatened) she sells it to TMZ for a quick buck.

and ya'll want Cousins banned for this? give me a **** break. he shouldn't have said it, that should go without saying obviously, but to de-contexualize the situation does no one any good here.


I mean, looks like a start in a country with a insane gun and violence epidemic to draw a strong line at threats to shoot someone. And i couldnt care less what the woman (or anyone else) did or said etc.

And if Cousins wants to be an NBA player (and a public figure VIA the NBA) then its his damn JOB to hold certain standards. If he cant do it, then bye bye.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#177 » by AbeVigodaLive » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:23 pm

TheNewEra wrote:Cousins is wrong for this no doubt shouldn’t have gone that far. God damn though that has to be some severe hate in your heart as the baby mother with all he’s going through with his career and health to record an emotional situation for one of the most important days of his life!


Then you sold the damn tape to TMZ instead of just filing a report to the police if you truly felt threaten? That kid is definitely hearing “daddy ain’t ****” at home I can sense it from personal interactions



Wait though.

Is a police report against such a threat going anywhere? Especially when a guy with approximately $100M can fight it?

But that brings up an interesting point... this threat would probably be largely dismissed by our criminal justice system... but it's suddenly a flashpoint for the NBA. Again, back to the words > actions thing I mentioned earlier and how guys like Jason Kidd come into play.

That one played out through the courts and Kidd plead guilty to an actual crime. Is what Cousins said an actual crime? I guess a threat is... but if every one was chased down... it's pretty unrealistic right?
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Post#178 » by theFireBlanket » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:26 pm

LeMasta wrote:its not looking good for cousins... especially if she's even ready to record him. He's probably been making similar threats in the past

He's choked her. This is definitely ongoing.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#179 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:28 pm

XxIronChainzxX wrote:
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NY 567 wrote:The fact that, instead of going straight to the authorities in fear of her life, she went and sold it to TMZ shows you that she knew she wasn't in any danger whatsoever and was baiting him. She's a gold digging parasite, nothing more.


yea, people are kind of missing this part for some reason.

she recorded him, baited him, weaponized his own child against him, got him to threaten her and instead of going to the police (which she would have if she REALLY felt threatened) she sells it to TMZ for a quick buck.

and ya'll want Cousins banned for this? give me a **** break. he shouldn't have said it, that should go without saying obviously, but to de-contexualize the situation does no one any good here.


No one is missing that part. Cousins didn't know he was being recorded, and the tape wasn't sold to TMZ yet as he was threatening to shoot the mother of his child in the head. None of this is relevant to Cousins' culpability or his blameworthiness.

But what is interesting - again - is that you focus on whether she "REALLY felt threatened". Are you saying it's okay to threaten to violently murder someone if they don't think you're being serious?


and, for the 16th time, no one is absolving Cousins of blame. should we try for 20th time for you to understand?

and no that's not what I am saying, i'm saying it speaks to her intentions. thought that was obvious but apparently I need to hold your hand through that as well.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#180 » by XxIronChainzxX » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:29 pm

clyde21 wrote:
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again, the way he treats his clearly psychopathic ex is not indicative how he treats/will treat his son. there are plenty of fathers who have terrible relationships with their exes who are perfectly fine fathers in their own right.

and if you are on a crusade to take away the kids of all fathers who have semblances of anger issues, good luck with that. i'm sure that will help them with their anger issues.


There is a difference between having a poor relationship with your ex and threatening violence. I expect that the research would show that there is a correlation between uttering threats of violence to others - including but not limited to an ex - and violence directed towards children. I don't see why this wouldn't be a reason - or a factor - to take into account when determining custody and visitation rights. In fact, I am certain that it is a taken into account.

It's interesting to me that you find the ex to be "psychopathic" and that as far as I can tell this is the first time you've used that word, despite the fact that were talking about Cousins literally threatening bloody murder.


Because recording someone while you're talking about withholding his child from him so you can sell the tape to TMZ is psychotic. do you disagree?

and Cousins has a lot of anger issues he needs to resolve, this has been talked about on here and everywhere else ad nauseam, and he obviously shouldn't have taken it that far. not sure what else should be said about that. what do I need to say to prove my condemnation to you? should I call for the NBA to completely ban him? can I sit at the cool kids table then?


On the second point first: why don't we settle on you calling a man who threatened to murder the mother of his child by shooting her in the head psychopathic?

On the first point, I'm wondering why you say that she sold the tape to TMZ. According to what I have been able to find online she reported the issue to police.

TMZ reports that the source is a public court document:
"TMZ Sports has obtained court docs and a police report filed by DC's ex-girlfriend, Christy West -- claiming the NBA star threatened her on August 23, just one day before Cousins was set to marry his new girlfriend, Morgan Lang, in Atlanta."

The link is below:

https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/27/demarcus-cousins-accused-threatening-shoot-baby-mama-before-wedding/

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