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DaSixers wrote:as a sixers fan.. jrue holiday and NAW for simmons cant happen soon enough
jrue plays all the D simmons does, and is 10x the player in the halfcourt that simmons is. NAW gives us a good young player moving forward
I'd do this deal in a **** second.. too bad it cant be done until next year
I'm sick of simmons and his passive, refuse to improve play style
papajoe wrote:Simmons for D'Lo,1st Round Pick and Paschall
D'Lo
Richardson
Tobias
Horford
Embiid
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
They are 12-2 in their last 14 in large part because Harris has found his shot and is scoring more efficiently. The reason why people are talking about Simmons and Embiid not being able to play together is because you rarely see them play off one another, or have big statistical nights in the same game. In that 14 game stretch Simmons is now down to 13.4ppg, that is unacceptable for a former number 1 pick and soon to be max player. The defense is nice, but they didn't draft him to be Draymond Green, and realistically if they're playing a series and he has games like last night the Sixers will be in trouble. If the goal is to win a title, he has to be more assertive and aggressive on offense, the coach challenged him and since then he's actually gotten more passive.
If he turns into a Draymond Green...who's athletic and will have a longer career. Hell that's well worth a max contract and WELL worth a number 1 pick, even if of course you don't dream of a Draymond Green with a first pick...but if you get "stuck" with a long career draymond green...you'd gladly take that.
A GM would lose his job if he drafted Draymond number 1, he's a great player but nobody in their right mind wants that with the first pick. Right now the only reason why the media doesn't make a bigger fuss about Simmons is because he still has "potential" attached to him because of his age and the hope that he becomes more of an offensive threat.
If Simmons lays another egg in the playoffs nobody is going to point to his defense and applaud it, they will focus on why the number 1 pick isn't getting you more scoring.
ConSarnit wrote:Hey Sixers fans, stop bringing up “losing to the champs on a last second shot”. Jimmy Butler, the guy you gave the ball to every 4th quarter of that series is gone. When the games get tight in the playoffs who on you’re team do you trust in the last 5 minutes? I’ve seen games this year where you’ve had Josh Richardson trying to close things out. If you think you can win a title in that way then good luck, I guess.
Sixers fans need to admit they have a real issue that is likely to rear it’s head significantly come playoff time.
nate33 wrote:The easiest trade is Simmons for Beal.
dhsilv2 wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:
If he turns into a Draymond Green...who's athletic and will have a longer career. Hell that's well worth a max contract and WELL worth a number 1 pick, even if of course you don't dream of a Draymond Green with a first pick...but if you get "stuck" with a long career draymond green...you'd gladly take that.
A GM would lose his job if he drafted Draymond number 1, he's a great player but nobody in their right mind wants that with the first pick. Right now the only reason why the media doesn't make a bigger fuss about Simmons is because he still has "potential" attached to him because of his age and the hope that he becomes more of an offensive threat.
If Simmons lays another egg in the playoffs nobody is going to point to his defense and applaud it, they will focus on why the number 1 pick isn't getting you more scoring.
If that is how teams and the media look at first picks, it might explain why there are so many busts and why the talking heads are laughed at today vs respected. Because a draymond green peak for multiple years would be better than most first overall picks.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
Black Mage wrote:papajoe wrote:Simmons for D'Lo,1st Round Pick and Paschall
D'Lo
Richardson
Tobias
Horford
Embiid
An intriguing package. Depends on 1st rnd protections.
Black Jack wrote:Black Mage wrote:papajoe wrote:Simmons for D'Lo,1st Round Pick and Paschall
D'Lo
Richardson
Tobias
Horford
Embiid
An intriguing package. Depends on 1st rnd protections.
As a dubs fan I'm ok with this but it would hurt if the pick turned out to be #1. Maybe top 2 protected?
tcheco wrote:They were 1 shot away from beating the champions, with a 22 year old Simmons and a 25 year old embiid with a team built during the regular season last year, BUT THEY CAN'T WORK TOGETHER.
Norm2953 wrote:Whoever takes Simmons would have to fit that $170/5 extension with 15% trade kicker. As much as I would
love to trade CJ for him, there is no way Portland could take on Simmons and Dame at the same time.
Jamaaliver wrote:Clay Davis wrote:At this point Simmons is basically Draymond Green. Any team could use Draymond Green.
Simmons is like a hybrid of Draymond in the half court and Giannis in the open floor. Getting him at PF is going to open things up for him so much if he's flanked by 4 shooters.
Giannis might be the only guy out East who can defend Simmons in the post and on a dribble drive from the perimeter.
Steelo Green wrote:Even though you know somehow we all gotta go, as long as we believin' thievin' we'll be leavin' with some kind of dough.
76ersForLife wrote:fbalmeida wrote:I've got a question about Simmons that I once tossed on the Raptors board and went unanswered. It may sound rhetorical but it's actually a perfectly honest question about his past development.
Who was it exactly that first looked at Simmons' size, athleticism, and skill-set, and suggested he should be a point guard?
His court vision is off the charts and his ability to push it up the court made it an easy decision. Keep in mind it was Magic Johnson that said Ben reminded him of himself and he even offered to work out with Ben.
CoreyGallagher wrote:I hope the Cavs don't take Embiid because then we'll take Embiid.
Filthadelphia wrote:The saddest part about this thread is you have actual Sixer fans in here drinking the Kool-Aid every other team is selling.
Every FO in the league would be ecstatic if the Sixers willingly broke up Embiid/Simmons.
a 25 and 23 year old havent reached the NBA Finals yet in their careers? What a disppointment!!
DaPessimist wrote:Simmons + Scott for VanVleet + Anunoby and the 76ers make the NBA Finals.
fbalmeida wrote:DaPessimist wrote:Simmons + Scott for VanVleet + Anunoby and the 76ers make the NBA Finals.
I would fire Masai and Bobby Webster for that.
Anunoby is the Raptors most valuable long term asset.