Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam?

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Re: Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam? 

Post#161 » by BostonCouchGM » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:15 am

it's not just that they have two top 5 players, it's also that they have the refs on their side. So in combination, it's a superteam
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Re: Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam? 

Post#162 » by Marrrcuss » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:33 am

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Marrrcuss wrote:The spurs with Duncan, Ginobli, Parker, Kawhi, and a deep azz bench were NOT one?

The bulls with adding the perennial best defender and rebounding champ to Scottie and Mike were NOT?

Then its just about LeBron. Just admit it

The rules of the NBA do allow a LeBron team to be beaten by a better team. If he has chosen prior to the Lakers to stack up elite players regardless of fit that is his problem.

My definition is pretty close to Les Grossman's, and with "the Worm" more or less returning to what he had previously been when he joined the Bulls they perhaps could be called as a superteam, but he was pretty much regarded as a spent force and definitely not a top 5 or 10 player when he joined.

And yes it does seem to be pretty much all about Lebron from your side of things as well, in a thread actually started to argue about whether Lebron's current team is a superteam. If the Lakers aren't then the 2014 Spurs and 2016 Warriors fairly definitely aren't either.


Thats stupid as hell. Of course they lose to better teams. I mean duh.

Bruh, yall cant shout to the rafters that im a lebron fan as if some sort of high school like peer pressure would make me back off, lol.

I dont read you alls names or care who you like. Im just in here to chat. No damn grudge based of who you like, lolol. Silly azz shyt, that is
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Re: Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam? 

Post#163 » by Ito » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:56 am

Ballerhogger wrote:Thank you. We weren’t last year either .

Probably not a “super” team but it was a really really good team.. if rondo and Howard were in their primes they would have clearly been a super team
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Re: Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam? 

Post#164 » by HEKTOR » Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:01 am

They won last year and won quite easily - how is that not a superteam? Lebron is the best player in the world when it matters and AD next to him is arguably top-5, otherwise definitely top-10. Then you have depth and experience and they are as much a super-team as there is in the league right now. Nets have 3 legit stars but they haven't all played together for long, nor do they have much else.
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Re: Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam? 

Post#165 » by donaldtrump_00 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:12 am

lebron's lakers team is a superteam. you have lebron the best player in the leaugue. then anthony davis who is clearly the best big man on boths sidesnying off the ball mostly due to lebron taking that responsibility. nobody is asking bron to go out and prove he's a point guard and try to get mvp which he wants to win almost as bad as a championship. harrell is the last years 6 man of the year winner. averaged 18ppg and i dont know how many rebounds but he's a handful to handle. and his minuites are limited this year which he's been playing center behind marc gasol. despite marc not being the player he used to be he's still a great defensive player and he can get his ass on the block and score when he feels like it. its very tough to beat a team ran by lebron james with all those players who can score 30 points on any given night. now you have to worry about kcp also who's known for showing up big for lebron off his assists and alex corouso. wesley matthews also. all provide spacing for lebron to attack when the playoffs com. makes it imposible to guard him. how in the hell do you not see a super team? there team is short handed for the reason for there lately losing. they were tied up with the jazz before davis went down.
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Re: Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam? 

Post#166 » by blackstar » Fri Jun 4, 2021 5:19 am

SAKURABA216 wrote:How is a team with Lebron and AD not a superteam? Not to mention they added guys like Schroeder, Montrez (reigning 6th man of the year), and Marc Gasol without really giving up anything. They also have the best young superstar, who is bound to be signed to a 20 million dollar contract next year, in THT.

This isn't a superteam? Lebron was voted as the #1 best player in the NBA and AD #2 by ESPN. Even if you are dismissive of ESPN's rankings they are both undisputed top 5 players. Just because the Nets have 3 superstars does not mean that you can't have a superteam with only 2 and a bunch of better than average players. If any 2 of KD/Kawhi/Giannis linked up and had a stacked supporting cast they would also be considered a superteam.

You need to reset what your definition of a superteam is. It isn't the team with the most superstars, but also takes into account the quality and fit of the superstars joining together. Lebron and AD definitely are a superteam.


Yes, very superteam-like. Take out one guy and 8th seed 1st round fodder. Guess Gasol, Schroeder, THT, Montrez didn't pull through with their superteam responsibilities.
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Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam? 

Post#167 » by SAKURABA216 » Fri Jun 4, 2021 5:56 am

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SAKURABA216 wrote:How is a team with Lebron and AD not a superteam? Not to mention they added guys like Schroeder, Montrez (reigning 6th man of the year), and Marc Gasol without really giving up anything. They also have the best young superstar, who is bound to be signed to a 20 million dollar contract next year, in THT.

This isn't a superteam? Lebron was voted as the #1 best player in the NBA and AD #2 by ESPN. Even if you are dismissive of ESPN's rankings they are both undisputed top 5 players. Just because the Nets have 3 superstars does not mean that you can't have a superteam with only 2 and a bunch of better than average players. If any 2 of KD/Kawhi/Giannis linked up and had a stacked supporting cast they would also be considered a superteam.

You need to reset what your definition of a superteam is. It isn't the team with the most superstars, but also takes into account the quality and fit of the superstars joining together. Lebron and AD definitely are a superteam.


Yes, very superteam-like. Take out one guy and 8th seed 1st round fodder. Guess Gasol, Schroeder, THT, Montrez didn't pull through with their superteam responsibilities.

Before the series a lot of analysts were calling this Lakers team the greatest 7th seed ever and a nightmare matchup for the Suns. Just because they lost to a less talented team overall doesn’t mean they weren’t a super team.

The Lakers were dealing with injuries all year and even without AD they had a pretty decent team. Curry would have traded his left nut for guys like Schroeder, KCP, THT, Gasol, Drummond, Montrez, Kuzma, Morris, etc. All he had to play with was someone’s uncle from the YMCA and a bunch of G-leaguers. In fact, if you gave Dame this supporting cast he might have even beaten the Nuggets.

Lakers were still pretty stacked even without AD, but were outplayed by an injured CP3, Cyrax the journeyman, and Booker doing his best Kobe impression. Were the Warriors in 2019 a super team even though KD was out most of the playoffs, Klay blew out his knee in the finals, and the Raptors were playing Box and 1 on Curry? Same goes for the Lakers.


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Re: Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam? 

Post#168 » by TheNG » Fri Jun 4, 2021 6:25 am

The fact that they lost doesn't make them less a super-team.
It's just makes LeBron a little more loser.
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Re: Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam? 

Post#169 » by Jables » Fri Jun 4, 2021 6:35 am

You just can't win with 2 of the top 5 players in the NBA, it's too hard, it's unfair in todays superteam centric environment. They tried to fill the holes, but only 27 year old 2x All-Star Andre Drummond was even willing to join them. That's right, despite needing a big man they couldn't even get a Jokic, or an Embiid. It's really important that they aren't technically a superteam.
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Re: Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam? 

Post#170 » by WICKED17 » Fri Jun 4, 2021 7:27 am

blackstar wrote:
SAKURABA216 wrote:How is a team with Lebron and AD not a superteam? Not to mention they added guys like Schroeder, Montrez (reigning 6th man of the year), and Marc Gasol without really giving up anything. They also have the best young superstar, who is bound to be signed to a 20 million dollar contract next year, in THT.

This isn't a superteam? Lebron was voted as the #1 best player in the NBA and AD #2 by ESPN. Even if you are dismissive of ESPN's rankings they are both undisputed top 5 players. Just because the Nets have 3 superstars does not mean that you can't have a superteam with only 2 and a bunch of better than average players. If any 2 of KD/Kawhi/Giannis linked up and had a stacked supporting cast they would also be considered a superteam.

You need to reset what your definition of a superteam is. It isn't the team with the most superstars, but also takes into account the quality and fit of the superstars joining together. Lebron and AD definitely are a superteam.


Yes, very superteam-like. Take out one guy and 8th seed 1st round fodder. Guess Gasol, Schroeder, THT, Montrez didn't pull through with their superteam responsibilities.


Not sure about guys you mentioned.
But one thing is undeniable... LeBron James sure as f’k didn’t !
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Re: Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam? 

Post#171 » by SpreeS » Fri Jun 4, 2021 9:17 am

Maybe its not the superteam if we compare with all time, but it was the most stacked team this year in NBA.

Drummond
Harrell
Gasol

Davis
Morris

Lebron
Kuzma

Schroder
Pope
Caruso
THT

ESPN ranked Lebron and Davis as 1st and 2nd best players in NBA before season :)
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Re: Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam? 

Post#172 » by NO-KG-AI » Fri Jun 4, 2021 9:43 am

Superteams are teams that are so good that they can afford to lose a star and still be a contender, and they usually have someone being way underutilized because they are so over talented that they can’t get everyone touches.

The Lakers were probably the best combo of a powerful 1-2 that were perfect compliments and cover all your bases on both ends, and just need roleplayers... in a league with 0 other superteams last year.


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Re: Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam? 

Post#173 » by art_tatum » Fri Jun 4, 2021 9:56 am

Superteams can lose too especially if you lose the 1.b player.
The heatles superteam lost their 1st and last year with a full squad
Warriors superteam lost 2019 after KD went down then klay
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Re: Can we stop with the narrative that Lebron's Lakers are a superteam? 

Post#174 » by a8bil » Fri Jun 4, 2021 5:49 pm

I'm okay with not calling the Laker's a "superteam" as long as we start the narrative that Lebron has been "exposed."

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