OT: Tested positive for Covid 19 yesterday.Has anyone on here experienced covid before?

[ItsDanger]

I wish everyone would get vaccinated so we can get pass this pandemic. I don't really understand why people are against it.

I really don't understand this logic to be honest. Can someone explain it to me? Tell me where I'm wrong.

If I don't get the vaccine here is what can happen. A) I get covid and live B) I get Covid and die

Those are the 2 options. Now if Ninjamilk23 gets the vaccine and I don't here is what can happen.

A) I get covid and live B) I get covid and die.

There are no options in either of those where ninjamilk23 gets covid and dies if I don't get the vaccine. So why in the hell does it matter if I'm willing to risk my own life? Why does ninjamilk23 care so much if I get covid? Someone help me understand this better.

It matters to you, and it matters beyond you.

In order to get back to "normal," we need to limit community spread to the point that it's no longer in danger of creating another wave if we end all restrictions. If you and millions of others won't get vaccinated, that's millions of opportunities for COVID to spread and create yet another wave. Maybe you don't think you have much to worry about from COVID, but if you are part of the chain that sustains the spread, then you are helping COVID spread and preventing all of us, including you, from getting back to normal.

Another aspect of that is that if you are part of the chain perpetuating spread, you are putting others at risk. The vast majority of young, healthy adults won't get a severe case of COVID, but a small percentage will get a severe case, and a severe case of COVID is far worse than a severe case of the flu or other respiratory illness. Even in this thread, there are stories of healthy individuals who got really sick and had to be hospitalized or even died.

There are those who cannot take the vaccine for a variety of reasons, are immunocompromised, or are otherwise vulnerable. Even a percentage of those who are vaccinated can get COVID anyway. You and others allowing COVID to continue spreading means putting those people at much greater risk.

Another aspect is that there are more outcomes than recovery or death. There is a thing called COVID long-haulers, people who suffer significant health impacts for a long time after supposedly recovering from the acute phase. In some ways, COVID is more of a vascular disease than a respiratory one, potentially causing blood clots throughout the body that impact organ function and overall health. There appears to be a neurological component.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, COVID can also be asymptomatic. If you're not vaccinated, you can have it without knowing it and unknowingly spread it wherever you go.

Also, getting COVID isn't a guarantee that you won't get it again. Research shows that the protection you get from antibodies after having COVID doesn't last more than a few months and that the vaccines provide much longer protection.

Then there's variants. As COVID is allowed to spread longer and through a greater number of people, it mutates and creates variants, and those variants can have more dangerous effects or be resistant to the current vaccines.

Getting vaccinated means doing your part to control the spread. From a selfish standpoint, getting vaccinated is the quickest way to get back to normal. Gathering in bars, going to movies, attending games and concerts, playing pickup games and rec league games indoors, working out at the gym, and doing it all without masks -- you want to do all that as soon as possible? Then get vaccinated and encourage other vaccine-hesitant people in your circle to do the same.

If I experience serious side effects (which is normal risk for most commercial pharmaceuticals), will you compensate me? I don't care if its remote chance.

[Outside]

I really don't understand this logic to be honest. Can someone explain it to me? Tell me where I'm wrong.

If I don't get the vaccine here is what can happen. A) I get covid and live B) I get Covid and die

Those are the 2 options. Now if Ninjamilk23 gets the vaccine and I don't here is what can happen.

A) I get covid and live B) I get covid and die.

There are no options in either of those where ninjamilk23 gets covid and dies if I don't get the vaccine. So why in the hell does it matter if I'm willing to risk my own life? Why does ninjamilk23 care so much if I get covid? Someone help me understand this better.

It matters to you, and it matters beyond you.

In order to get back to "normal," we need to limit community spread to the point that it's no longer in danger of creating another wave if we end all restrictions. If you and millions of others won't get vaccinated, that's millions of opportunities for COVID to spread and create yet another wave. Maybe you don't think you have much to worry about from COVID, but if you are part of the chain that sustains the spread, then you are helping COVID spread and preventing all of us, including you, from getting back to normal.

Another aspect of that is that if you are part of the chain perpetuating spread, you are putting others at risk. The vast majority of young, healthy adults won't get a severe case of COVID, but a small percentage will get a severe case, and a severe case of COVID is far worse than a severe case of the flu or other respiratory illness. Even in this thread, there are stories of healthy individuals who got really sick and had to be hospitalized or even died.

There are those who cannot take the vaccine for a variety of reasons, are immunocompromised, or are otherwise vulnerable. Even a percentage of those who are vaccinated can get COVID anyway. You and others allowing COVID to continue spreading means putting those people at much greater risk.

Another aspect is that there are more outcomes than recovery or death. There is a thing called COVID long-haulers, people who suffer significant health impacts for a long time after supposedly recovering from the acute phase. In some ways, COVID is more of a vascular disease than a respiratory one, potentially causing blood clots throughout the body that impact organ function and overall health. There appears to be a neurological component.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, COVID can also be asymptomatic. If you're not vaccinated, you can have it without knowing it and unknowingly spread it wherever you go.

Also, getting COVID isn't a guarantee that you won't get it again. Research shows that the protection you get from antibodies after having COVID doesn't last more than a few months and that the vaccines provide much longer protection.

Then there's variants. As COVID is allowed to spread longer and through a greater number of people, it mutates and creates variants, and those variants can have more dangerous effects or be resistant to the current vaccines.

Getting vaccinated means doing your part to control the spread. From a selfish standpoint, getting vaccinated is the quickest way to get back to normal. Gathering in bars, going to movies, attending games and concerts, playing pickup games and rec league games indoors, working out at the gym, and doing it all without masks -- you want to do all that as soon as possible? Then get vaccinated and encourage other vaccine-hesitant people in your circle to do the same.

If I experience serious side effects (which is normal risk for most commercial pharmaceuticals), will you compensate me? I don't care if its remote chance.

That's all you've got? That's your argument for not taking the vaccine? So will you compensate me for lost income and quality of life due to continued restrictions because you and your brethren refuse to get vaccinated?

There is no reaching a certain number of people like you and Goose Egg. For those who were anti-vax to begin with, oppose COVID vaccination for political or ideological reasons, or whatever, no amount of information or logic will sway you. That's really unfortunate, but you are a lost cause.

But there are many out there who are hesitant as opposed to being dead-set against the vaccine. There are reasonable questions to ask, and they deserve reasonable answers. I'll do what I can to help those people arrive at an informed decision, because that increases the odds of a better outcome for everyone.

[tleikheen]

My wife is a Hospitalist (Internal Medicine Dr) on the Navajo Rez who for a year was swamped with Covid infected patients. She wore a full facemask and had a microphone to talk (like an astronaught).She saved alot of lives but signed death certificates too.She could tell who would more than likely make it and those that were in danger from unhealthy living (obesity,smokers and drinkers,and pre existing conditions) but in the end it was the roll of the dice for many. We were apart for months at a time because Im 60 plus (though Im Alaska healthy),she worried for me just because of all that she saw .It was a war zone against an invisible enemy. I know quite a few frontline Drs who took extreme measures as my wife did daily to come through without contracting the virus themselves .
It's no joke this virus and even with getting vaccinated we can still become carriers to those unvaccinated . It's the anti vaxxers that are going to spread these variants and they are nasty ****.Another wave is coming and even though all my family is vaccinated we remain vigilant as it looks like we will need another booster shot to protect ourselves . I'm not rolling the dice with my life.

[dribble1614]

You are a very smart man, Outside. Excellent post outlining the benefits of mass vaccination. Despite all the hesitancy and sometimes (unfortunately) politics surrounding this apolitical, purely medical/scientific/public health/safety issue, I have to say I am pleasantly surprised overall at the US’s vaccination rates. There’s a reason it’s not an absolute catastrophe right now like it is in India (vaccination rate ~ 2% compared US vaccination rate > 40%). Pretty much all purely due to vaccines.

It’s also annoying when celebrities who are very uneducated about medicine start spouting off about vaccines.

[RaptorPride]

It matters to you, and it matters beyond you.

In order to get back to "normal," we need to limit community spread to the point that it's no longer in danger of creating another wave if we end all restrictions. If you and millions of others won't get vaccinated, that's millions of opportunities for COVID to spread and create yet another wave. Maybe you don't think you have much to worry about from COVID, but if you are part of the chain that sustains the spread, then you are helping COVID spread and preventing all of us, including you, from getting back to normal.

Another aspect of that is that if you are part of the chain perpetuating spread, you are putting others at risk. The vast majority of young, healthy adults won't get a severe case of COVID, but a small percentage will get a severe case, and a severe case of COVID is far worse than a severe case of the flu or other respiratory illness. Even in this thread, there are stories of healthy individuals who got really sick and had to be hospitalized or even died.

There are those who cannot take the vaccine for a variety of reasons, are immunocompromised, or are otherwise vulnerable. Even a percentage of those who are vaccinated can get COVID anyway. You and others allowing COVID to continue spreading means putting those people at much greater risk.

Another aspect is that there are more outcomes than recovery or death. There is a thing called COVID long-haulers, people who suffer significant health impacts for a long time after supposedly recovering from the acute phase. In some ways, COVID is more of a vascular disease than a respiratory one, potentially causing blood clots throughout the body that impact organ function and overall health. There appears to be a neurological component.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, COVID can also be asymptomatic. If you're not vaccinated, you can have it without knowing it and unknowingly spread it wherever you go.

Also, getting COVID isn't a guarantee that you won't get it again. Research shows that the protection you get from antibodies after having COVID doesn't last more than a few months and that the vaccines provide much longer protection.

Then there's variants. As COVID is allowed to spread longer and through a greater number of people, it mutates and creates variants, and those variants can have more dangerous effects or be resistant to the current vaccines.

Getting vaccinated means doing your part to control the spread. From a selfish standpoint, getting vaccinated is the quickest way to get back to normal. Gathering in bars, going to movies, attending games and concerts, playing pickup games and rec league games indoors, working out at the gym, and doing it all without masks -- you want to do all that as soon as possible? Then get vaccinated and encourage other vaccine-hesitant people in your circle to do the same.

If I experience serious side effects (which is normal risk for most commercial pharmaceuticals), will you compensate me? I don't care if its remote chance.

That's all you've got? That's your argument for not taking the vaccine? So will you compensate me for lost income and quality of life due to continued restrictions because you and your brethren refuse to get vaccinated?

There is no reaching a certain number of people like you and Goose Egg. For those who were anti-vax to begin with, oppose COVID vaccination for political or ideological reasons, or whatever, no amount of information or logic will sway you. That's really unfortunate, but you are a lost cause.

But there are many out there who are hesitant as opposed to being dead-set against the vaccine. There are reasonable questions to ask, and they deserve reasonable answers. I'll do what I can to help those people arrive at an informed decision, because that increases the odds of a better outcome for everyone.

I think he is asking about the long term side effects of the vaccine which was produced very fast pretty much in a year. Since legally you can sue or hold them responsible for anything.

[DutchManDanFan]

Vaccinations has ended many terrible diseases. Some diseases like polio still linger on because there are people refusing vaccination.
The more people refuse a covid vaccin the longer the disease will linger on. So everybody has a responsibility.

It’s the same with voting. If you don’t vote it doesn’t make a difference in the result. But if many people do the same you might get a result you don’t want. For your neighbourhood, your city, your state, your country, for the world. You are part of it. Don’t do it for your self. Do it for everybody around you.

I’m guessing you aren’t from North America.

No I'm not. But does it matter? It"s the same everywhere.

[Outside]

If I experience serious side effects (which is normal risk for most commercial pharmaceuticals), will you compensate me? I don't care if its remote chance.

That's all you've got? That's your argument for not taking the vaccine? So will you compensate me for lost income and quality of life due to continued restrictions because you and your brethren refuse to get vaccinated?

There is no reaching a certain number of people like you and Goose Egg. For those who were anti-vax to begin with, oppose COVID vaccination for political or ideological reasons, or whatever, no amount of information or logic will sway you. That's really unfortunate, but you are a lost cause.

But there are many out there who are hesitant as opposed to being dead-set against the vaccine. There are reasonable questions to ask, and they deserve reasonable answers. I'll do what I can to help those people arrive at an informed decision, because that increases the odds of a better outcome for everyone.

I think he is asking about the long term side effects of the vaccine which was produced very fast pretty much in a year. Since legally you can sue or hold them responsible for anything.

That's what some people are asking. I don't think that's what ItsDanger was asking, but maybe I'm wrong.

There are two main aspects to the question you ask.

One is risk. The implication is that the risk of the vaccine is too great. There is risk, but it is really really small. And compared to the risk associated with COVID, it is vanishingly small. I suppose there is something that has zero risk, but most things in life carry risk, and to expect zero risk or that you deserve guarantees of compensation before assuming any risk makes no sense to me. It seems to be a cover for opposing vaccination for other reasons.

The other aspect is the argument that the vaccines weren't tested or were rushed, but that isn't true. Multiple phases that normally happen one after the other but aren't dependent on one another were performed at the same time. The testing is extensive and was simplified by the fact that COVID was running rampant.

[Zenzibar]

Was exposed Thursday because a family member came over not knowing he had it even though he had cold symptoms. Got tested yesterday and was positive. Main symptom is chills, I feel real cold. I also have off and on coughing. Off and on headaches too. I have asthma and woke up this morning and could barely breathe. My asthma pump helped though. My parents didn’t catch it from my nephew because they have the vaccine. I’m in my 30’s. I know this is non basketball related but just wanted to share this with the realgm family because I feel horrible. Feel tired.


Has anyone on here had covid before? If so how was it, what symptoms did you have?

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