TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest

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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#161 » by DreamTeam09 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:28 am

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Wolveswin wrote:So you lack reading comprehension? You don’t see the word NOT in front of everyone of those examples? Of course you don’t, it doesn’t fit your narrative. It doesn’t fit you reading someone pointing out how your beliefs expressed here are based on stereotypes. Maybe not the exact ones I used as examples, but fair for me to use those analogies when your view on cops presented here is a stereotypical misbelief. So continue trying to spin it so you can feel comfortable in your own skin — you do you and I will stand by unwavering what I said.

Here you go for another attempt at reading comprehension:



Lmao okay racist azz, you do you buddy. Most cops are corrupt pigs and wannabe tough guys with a badge and gun, sorry to say!

Thanks for proving my point. Carry on, you two faced hypocrite who enjoys the safety and civility they provide day and night while you bitch and complain how they do it — while using your false narrative and wrongful acquisition to stand on your straw man pulpit hoping someone will actually think what you say is factual or right. Which it isn’t.


The police are an institution, and a whole institution can end up corrupt even if a small minority of ppl are the corrupt ones in said institution...

A capful of bleach or a gallon of bleach, either way the water is now compromised. A corrupt Sargent/Chief is going to have great influence throughout his precent. I'm sure you yourself have seen plenty of police coverups, wrongdoings, even crimes that cops have committed where the police themselves stood beside their fellow man because cops stick together.

I totally disagree with you that it's a small minority of bad cops, it's probably closer to the other end of the spectrum that only a minority of cops are the "good guys" especially when it comes to enforcing themselves.

The term thin blue line that the police coin themselves proves they see it as us against them
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#162 » by lakerz12 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:39 am

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Lmao okay racist azz, you do you buddy. Most cops are corrupt pigs and wannabe tough guys with a badge and gun, sorry to say!

Thanks for proving my point. Carry on, you two faced hypocrite who enjoys the safety and civility they provide day and night while you bitch and complain how they do it — while using your false narrative and wrongful acquisition to stand on your straw man pulpit hoping someone will actually think what you say is factual or right. Which it isn’t.


The police are an institution, and a whole institution can end up corrupt even if a small minority of ppl are the corrupt ones in said institution...

A capful of bleach or a gallon of bleach, either way the water is now compromised. A corrupt Sargent/Chief is going to have great influence throughout his precent. I'm sure you yourself have seen plenty of police coverups, wrongdoings, even crimes that cops have committed where the police themselves stood beside their fellow man because cops stick together.

I totally disagree with you that it's a small minority of bad cops, it's probably closer to the other end of the spectrum that only a minority of cops are the "good guys" especially when it comes to enforcing themselves.

The term thin blue line that the police coin themselves proves they see it as us against them


Just not accurate...

“The "thin blue line" is a term that typically refers to the concept of the police as the line which keeps society from descending into violent chaos.[1]”

[1] Wall, Tyler (2019). "The police invention of humanity: Notes on the "thin blue line"". Crime Media Culture. 16 (3): 319–336.
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#163 » by dribble1614 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:57 am

good job by the cops. most of these criminal thugs deserve what happens to them as they are being confrontational, violent, resisting arrest, etc. blah blah blah from the woke sjw folk.
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#164 » by FreeSpiritNY » Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:05 am

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Wolveswin wrote:
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Lmao okay racist azz, you do you buddy. Most cops are corrupt pigs and wannabe tough guys with a badge and gun, sorry to say!

Thanks for proving my point. Carry on, you two faced hypocrite who enjoys the safety and civility they provide day and night while you bitch and complain how they do it — while using your false narrative and wrongful acquisition to stand on your straw man pulpit hoping someone will actually think what you say is factual or right. Which it isn’t.


The police are an institution, and a whole institution can end up corrupt even if a small minority of ppl are the corrupt ones in said institution...

A capful of bleach or a gallon of bleach, either way the water is now compromised. A corrupt Sargent/Chief is going to have great influence throughout his precent. I'm sure you yourself have seen plenty of police coverups, wrongdoings, even crimes that cops have committed where the police themselves stood beside their fellow man because cops stick together.

I totally disagree with you that it's a small minority of bad cops, it's probably closer to the other end of the spectrum that only a minority of cops are the "good guys" especially when it comes to enforcing themselves.

The term thin blue line that the police coin themselves proves they see it as us against them



So a cop supposedly breaking the law “ we don’t have the full story” now means it’s ok to attack a cop? They pleaded and begged him to calm down and stop.


I have had sheet like that happens me I just didn’t know enough to video and sue later on. But I didn’t put my hands on a cop.I also let them conduct there search and then told them they were violating my rights. It was the nigh if the super bowl and they found large steak knives in my car and guess what both cops loss there jobs. They had 0 right to conduct a search.


The problem here is how you handle a situation you have to be smarter then the person next to you who ever that is. Life is like chess you always have to be one move ahead of the person making there move.


I hope in this video people also realize that the full story isn’t here. How do you know his gf or wife didn’t call them and say Hayes is drunk acting wild and she said she didn’t feel safe that kid is 7ft talk. Please think before you call someone racist and realize the whole story isn’t here I’m not siding with anyone just pointing out facts that people like to forget.
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#165 » by DreamTeam09 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:06 am

lakerz12 wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:Thanks for proving my point. Carry on, you two faced hypocrite who enjoys the safety and civility they provide day and night while you bitch and complain how they do it — while using your false narrative and wrongful acquisition to stand on your straw man pulpit hoping someone will actually think what you say is factual or right. Which it isn’t.


The police are an institution, and a whole institution can end up corrupt even if a small minority of ppl are the corrupt ones in said institution...

A capful of bleach or a gallon of bleach, either way the water is now compromised. A corrupt Sargent/Chief is going to have great influence throughout his precent. I'm sure you yourself have seen plenty of police coverups, wrongdoings, even crimes that cops have committed where the police themselves stood beside their fellow man because cops stick together.

I totally disagree with you that it's a small minority of bad cops, it's probably closer to the other end of the spectrum that only a minority of cops are the "good guys" especially when it comes to enforcing themselves.

The term thin blue line that the police coin themselves proves they see it as us against them


Just not accurate...

“The "thin blue line" is a term that typically refers to the concept of the police as the line which keeps society from descending into violent chaos.[1]”

[1] Wall, Tyler (2019). "The police invention of humanity: Notes on the "thin blue line"". Crime Media Culture. 16 (3): 319–336.


"Critics argue that the "thin blue line" represents an "us versus them" mindset that heightens tensions between officers and citizens and negatively influences police-community interactions by setting police apart from society at large"
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#166 » by DoctorX » Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:06 am

This may have been the first time in Haye's life that he got his ass whooped. It just seemed to me this guy with his attitude and **** talking in that clip along with the audacity to shove the cop must have never been in a losing fight before in his life. You can't be that arrogant and delusional without having lived a privilege life.
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#167 » by DreamTeam09 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:09 am

FreeSpiritNY wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:Thanks for proving my point. Carry on, you two faced hypocrite who enjoys the safety and civility they provide day and night while you bitch and complain how they do it — while using your false narrative and wrongful acquisition to stand on your straw man pulpit hoping someone will actually think what you say is factual or right. Which it isn’t.


The police are an institution, and a whole institution can end up corrupt even if a small minority of ppl are the corrupt ones in said institution...

A capful of bleach or a gallon of bleach, either way the water is now compromised. A corrupt Sargent/Chief is going to have great influence throughout his precent. I'm sure you yourself have seen plenty of police coverups, wrongdoings, even crimes that cops have committed where the police themselves stood beside their fellow man because cops stick together.

I totally disagree with you that it's a small minority of bad cops, it's probably closer to the other end of the spectrum that only a minority of cops are the "good guys" especially when it comes to enforcing themselves.

The term thin blue line that the police coin themselves proves they see it as us against them



So a cop supposedly breaking the law “ we don’t have the full story” now means it’s ok to attack a cop? They pleaded and begged him to calm down and stop.


I have had sheet like that happens me I just didn’t know enough to video and sue later on. But I didn’t put my hands on a cop.I also let them conduct there search and then told them they were violating my rights. It was the nigh if the super bowl and they found large steak knives in my car and guess what both cops loss there jobs. They had 0 right to conduct a search.


The problem here is how you handle a situation you have to be smarter then the person next to you who ever that is. Life is like chess you always have to be one move ahead of the person making there move.


I hope in this video people also realize that the full story isn’t here. How do you know his gf or wife didn’t call them and say Hayes is drunk acting wild and she said she didn’t feel safe that kid is 7ft talk. Please think before you call someone racist and realize the whole story isn’t here I’m not siding with anyone just pointing out facts that people like to forget.


I never once commented on the video or what happened in it. Was just replying to that particular comment
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#168 » by Monky15 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:13 am

xAIRNESSx wrote:
Monky15 wrote:Should of listened to his buddy.


That's a good friend. He was doing what he could to keep Hayes out of trouble.


Peeps always go on about how athletes should have associates around to handle their mess, but if the athlete won't listen there isn't much they can do.
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#169 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:19 am

This dude is a complete jackass
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#170 » by Wolveswin » Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:33 am

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Wolveswin wrote:
RapsFan2000 wrote:
Lmao okay racist azz, you do you buddy. Most cops are corrupt pigs and wannabe tough guys with a badge and gun, sorry to say!

Thanks for proving my point. Carry on, you two faced hypocrite who enjoys the safety and civility they provide day and night while you bitch and complain how they do it — while using your false narrative and wrongful acquisition to stand on your straw man pulpit hoping someone will actually think what you say is factual or right. Which it isn’t.


The police are an institution, and a whole institution can end up corrupt even if a small minority of ppl are the corrupt ones in said institution...

A capful of bleach or a gallon of bleach, either way the water is now compromised. A corrupt Sargent/Chief is going to have great influence throughout his precent. I'm sure you yourself have seen plenty of police coverups, wrongdoings, even crimes that cops have committed where the police themselves stood beside their fellow man because cops stick together.

I totally disagree with you that it's a small minority of bad cops, it's probably closer to the other end of the spectrum that only a minority of cops are the "good guys" especially when it comes to enforcing themselves.

The term thin blue line that the police coin themselves proves they see it as us against them

I see you are good at consuming what the media feeds you — I hope you enjoyed the hook, line and sinker.

You do understand the majority of police agencies are small. In fact their are almost 18,000 across the US, not including federal agencies which makes that number jump.

Every profession has its level of corruption amongst a small cast of evil outliers. You watch too many movies and other misguided representations, that do in fact portray the very small minority of the profession as a whole. I get it though, watching a agenda driven corruption movie about accountants just doesn’t sell tickets or play to a base or tug the heart strings of the very very few who think such a molehill is really a mountain of corrupt accountants in evel accounting firms.

Let me be clear again, since I am sure you won’t go back and read my previous posts on this subject. The police need to be better.

No one is naive enough not to understand cops — like every profession — have bad eggs in the bunch. That is why more funding. More training. Better hiring and retention practices to find and secure top end employees. More oversight (internal and 3rd party) is needed. As with every publicly funded entity, it should be scrutinized for its output within the communities it serves. Just be better — but that is a two way street.

Citizens need to be better. Interactions with authority, all types of agencies in all communities needs to be more respectful, and in turn a higher level of professionalism and respect should be rewarded back to each citizen. As cops come better at what they do, so should the citizens they police and govern.
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#171 » by Wolveswin » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:09 am

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DreamTeam09 wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:Thanks for proving my point. Carry on, you two faced hypocrite who enjoys the safety and civility they provide day and night while you bitch and complain how they do it — while using your false narrative and wrongful acquisition to stand on your straw man pulpit hoping someone will actually think what you say is factual or right. Which it isn’t.


The police are an institution, and a whole institution can end up corrupt even if a small minority of ppl are the corrupt ones in said institution...

A capful of bleach or a gallon of bleach, either way the water is now compromised. A corrupt Sargent/Chief is going to have great influence throughout his precent. I'm sure you yourself have seen plenty of police coverups, wrongdoings, even crimes that cops have committed where the police themselves stood beside their fellow man because cops stick together.

I totally disagree with you that it's a small minority of bad cops, it's probably closer to the other end of the spectrum that only a minority of cops are the "good guys" especially when it comes to enforcing themselves.

The term thin blue line that the police coin themselves proves they see it as us against them

I see you are good at consuming what the media feeds you — I hope you enjoyed the hook, line and sinker.

You do understand the majority of police agencies are small. In fact their are almost 18,000 across the US, not including federal agencies which makes that number jump.

Every profession has its level of corruption amongst a small cast of evil outliers. You watch too many movies and other misguided representations, that do in fact portray the very small minority of the profession as a whole. I get it though, watching a agenda driven corruption movie about accountants just doesn’t sell tickets or play to a base or tug the heart strings of the very very few who think such a molehill is really a mountain of corrupt accountants in evel accounting firms.

Let me be clear again, since I am sure you won’t go back and read my previous posts on this subject. The police need to be better.

No one is naive enough not to understand cops — like every profession — have bad eggs in the bunch. That is why more funding. More training. Better hiring and retention practices to find and secure top end employees. More oversight (internal and 3rd party) is needed. As with every publicly funded entity, it should be scrutinized for its output within the communities it serves. Just be better — but that is a two way street.

Citizens need to be better. Interactions with authority, all types of agencies in all communities needs to be more respectful, and in turn a higher level of professionalism and respect should be rewarded back to each citizen. As cops come better at what they do, so should the citizens they police and govern.

Here is some quick one hitters for you:

There are about 18,000 state and local police agencies in the US. These generally fall into the following categories: state police, county police, county sheriffs, municipal police, and special district police.

Over 1 million people work as public safety officers in the United States. There are 906,037 full-time law enforcement employees and 94,275 part-time employees.

On average, the United States spends $340 per person per year for public policing, for a total of $193 billion in spending in 2017. Police spending accounts for 9.2% of all local government spending.

Local police departments spend 68% of all government funds allocated for policing. They receive funding from a variety of revenue streams, including local public funds, federal grants, fines and fees, forfeitures, and private donations.

There are 137 police oversight entities for city and county police departments, covering 124 jurisdictions. Some jurisdictions have more than one oversight body. This means 1% of local police departments are subject to community oversight.
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#172 » by Johnny Firpo » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:10 am

GobertReport wrote:Dude is going to jail, he was drunk and assaulted a cop. Hope it was worth it and you can get another contract in China or Europe.


He has a base salary of 5 million per year. He is not going to jail, lol.
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Post#173 » by Dominator83 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:57 am

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GSWFan1994 wrote:Not looking good for Jaxson Hayes.

Even if he gets out of this situation without legal problems long term, I don't think any NBA team will offer him a good contract after his rookie one is over.

Maybe some type of 1 year, "prove it" deals, but still, more talented players were left out due to way less troubled situations in the past.


I doubt that. That would be a bad look for the NBA, especially given everything we have learned over the past year regarding police brutality.

To this point, he's an OK player that doesn't have it between the ears. If he stays the same and doesn't progress, then no, nobody's gonna give him a good payday because "it's a bad look" when the only thing bad looking is his game and work ethic.

Of course, if between now and the next two years he decides to grow up and it shows on the court, then yes he'll get more. If he doesn't, then yes I still think teams will take a chance on him but it will be of the low risk, high reward variety (short term deals for cheap pay)
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#174 » by PlatinumState » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:21 am

Power tripping cop was provoking as they usually do, used excessive force cause theyre scared as they usually are. Just look at their eyes.
Dont go into the police force if youre gonna be scared in every situation just because you like the pay and benefits as most do.
I guess in the US you have to bow down to cops, shouldnt be like that
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Post#175 » by Ray Donovan » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:48 am

So Mr Hayes owns the house & the gf Lives there ? Seems Like that makes things more complicated :banghead:
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Post#176 » by rand » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:09 am

Cops should have professionally explained what gave them the right to search the house without a warrant (the 911 call) and before any action happened they should have advised Hayes that he was welcome to file a complaint after or consult an attorney but they were going to search the house now and if he obstructs them in any way they will have to place him under arrest. There's a decent chance if the cops do that then none of the subsequent nonsense happens.

After they decide to arrest Hayes and he resists, the momentum of the event carries itself up to the point where after taking Hayes to the ground they let him sit up a bit, he angrily demands their badge number and is instantly tasered. That's torture as retaliation for a threat to file a complaint. It's wrong, the officer who used the taser should be charged with felony assault, and Hayes should sue the department for violating his civil rights. Police officers shouldn't be allowed to taser people who threaten to report them. The magnitude of that crime dwarfs anything Hayes did here.

Worst part is TMZ fabricates a sequence of events leading up to the tasering to clean up for the police. According to TMZ, Hayes was tasered by police "after repeatedly ordering Hayes to comply". In reality Hayes refused to comply for quite a while and the police did not taser him. They even let him sit up a little after he gasped "I can't breathe" a few times. Then he mouthed off and was immediately punished. Not that I necessarily think the TMZ writer purposefully fabricated the sequence. Acceptance of the brutality and corruption of our police -- of their privilege to inflict pain on someone who says something they don't like -- is so widespread that hardly anyone is calling out the tasering for what it was: not an attempt to bring a physically resisting person to submission but punishment for saying something the cops didn't like.
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Post#177 » by PlatinumState » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:29 am

^
Thats my point. As soon as they dont like what youre saying they bring out the guns or taser in this case. He wasnt armed or brandishing a gun and yet they were beyond scared of him
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#178 » by CobraCommander » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:33 am

Jaxson Hayes cousin starts the video saying something about ‘let them talk to your girl she will tell them everything is ok and it will be aight’.....

Jaxsons drunk I guess...he is trying to prove he is right...

The cops are aggressive and trying to prove they are right...

And neither cops or Jaxson accomplished what they said initially with their wrestling.

The other cops should have been working to find the woman in distress, while the other cops were talking to Jaxson. We know this didn’t happen because Jaxson’s girl comes out to stop the altercation....but they were too caught up wrestling to care about that....at this point they gotta arrest Jaxson cause he back talked and is drunk at his house.

I was waiting for the video and now all I see are men being idiots. I don’t think either handled this right. If it’s not jaxsons house why didn’t the get permission from someone else to enter.

The cop that tased his chest was so bad it’s crazy.

But the real thing I wonder is this. Was Jaxson Hayes girlfriend hurt or in danger? If not, I would blame her for putting everyone in this situation. The best way to stay out of a fight Or a murder is to stay away from people that fight or murder....
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#179 » by CobraCommander » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:37 am

Ray Donovan wrote:So Mr Hayes owns the house & the gf Lives there ? Seems Like that makes things more complicated :banghead:

His ex doesnt live there anymore I hope....


If a woman calls the cop on you it’s over...with good cause.

She can’t trust you with her life and now you can’t trust her with yours.(barring mental illness)

And I’m saying a woman should call if she feels in danger...but she should move on if she feels she is living with a threat
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Re: TMZ: Bodycam footage released from Jaxon Hayes arrest 

Post#180 » by CobraCommander » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:53 am

Ok....went to YouTube watch the whole thing




Jaxson Hayes....keeping it real...
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