Lakers are 9-10. Who's to blame?

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Who's to blame?

Poll ended at Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:46 pm

Anthony Davis
11
6%
Russell Westbrook
25
14%
LeBron James
61
35%
Frank Vogel
4
2%
Rob Pelinka
62
35%
Injuries
13
7%
 
Total votes: 176

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Re: Lakers are 9-10. Who's to blame? 

Post#161 » by ILOVEIT » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:57 pm

Hmmmm....one theory had this Laker team like the year they sign Carl Malone, Shawn Kemp and Steve Nash.
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Re: Lakers are 9-10. Who's to blame? 

Post#162 » by AdriLaker » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:35 pm

G35 wrote:
AdriLaker wrote:Trade Westbrick or make him our cheerNOTleader. LeBron will have the ball, shooters around and AD can display his full game being more protagonist...oh, and this will be better for our defense and limit the turnovers. **** his triple doubles, i don't care about that ****



Don't you know its how you play the game is how you should judge a player. If a player is productive then that is all that matters.....


You can be productive in a good way...or in a bad way...that's the difference. Kevin Love averaged 26 13 in Minnesota and they couldn't even classify for the playoffs. Some players produce more stats proportionally than what they should be due to his level of talent...that's we call stats padder...or empty stats because they don't really have a true impact in the game. Westbrook has played with a ton of great players and he still can't win.
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Re: Lakers are 9-10. Who's to blame? 

Post#163 » by QingJames » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:48 pm

Rainwater wrote:I get why people are blaming Lebron but if AD was playing like the top 75 player that the NBA is claiming he is the Lakers wouldn't be in the current position they are in.

Haha it still blows my mind that he made it on that list after one (1) elite playoff run in highly unusual and favourable (for AD and the Lakers) circumstances. I know it’s been beaten to death but damn, what a whiff. Dude never did anything before that run and he hasn’t done anything since.
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Re: Lakers are 9-10. Who's to blame? 

Post#164 » by Rainwater » Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:33 am

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Rainwater wrote:I get why people are blaming Lebron but if AD was playing like the top 75 player that the NBA is claiming he is the Lakers wouldn't be in the current position they are in.

Haha it still blows my mind that he made it on that list after one (1) elite playoff run in highly unusual and favourable (for AD and the Lakers) circumstances. I know it’s been beaten to death but damn, what a whiff. Dude never did anything before that run and he hasn’t done anything since.


It bothers me to death. It absolutely kills me, lol. Dude is in the prime of his career you would think he would think he would surpass an old LBJ for alpha.
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Re: Lakers are 9-10. Who's to blame? 

Post#165 » by art_tatum » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:41 am

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Post#166 » by Lalouie » Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:22 am

blame might go to "age"

what if i say LAST YEAR was lebron's last hurrah, or to be more precise,,,,2years ago.

father time hath come. lebron still putting up numbers is not the same as doing all the things he used to do to carry a team.

2years ago was a covid year. the nba is back to relative normalcy and with that old players like lebron/westbrook/howard/rondo/melo et al are getting older.

time is relative - the old players get old and time speeds up, the younger players mature and time is still the same
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Re: Lakers are 9-10. Who's to blame? 

Post#167 » by John Murdoch » Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:20 pm

art_tatum wrote:.500 baby
Back on the up and up


I can see us taking down like 7 straight..or losing 7 straight...no middle ground with this team. Ik ppl keep talking about getting Ariza back but i actually think Nunn is more valuable because he allows a more traditional spacing for Lebron at pg ala Boobie Gibson ..Mo Will..Chalmers...Kyrie..etc
Westbrook is actually better served as like an undersized SF but the fit will always be clunky...i wish Vogel had the nuts to bench him down the stretch but still start him so he doesnt get pissed
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Post#168 » by JN61 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:22 pm

Lalouie wrote:blame might go to "age"

what if i say LAST YEAR was lebron's last hurrah, or to be more precise,,,,2years ago.

father time hath come. lebron still putting up numbers is not the same as doing all the things he used to do to carry a team.

2years ago was a covid year. the nba is back to relative normalcy and with that old players like lebron/westbrook/howard/rondo/melo et al are getting older.

time is relative - the old players get old and time speeds up, the younger players mature and time is still the same

You are ultimately right. If they replaced lebrons salary with decent players they would be far better team. LeBron is playing few games and injured. Play few more games and injured. When he plays he has the worst impact since his rookie year.
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Re: Lakers are 9-10. Who's to blame? 

Post#169 » by Freighttrain » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:53 pm

JN61 wrote:
Lalouie wrote:blame might go to "age"

what if i say LAST YEAR was lebron's last hurrah, or to be more precise,,,,2years ago.

father time hath come. lebron still putting up numbers is not the same as doing all the things he used to do to carry a team.

2years ago was a covid year. the nba is back to relative normalcy and with that old players like lebron/westbrook/howard/rondo/melo et al are getting older.

time is relative - the old players get old and time speeds up, the younger players mature and time is still the same

You are ultimately right. If they replaced lebrons salary with decent players they would be far better team. LeBron is playing few games and injured. Play few more games and injured. When he plays he has the worst impact since his rookie year.


Yes, let's trade our best player for a couple of decent players. I'm sure that will turn out well.

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Post#170 » by Lalouie » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:02 pm

JN61 wrote:
Lalouie wrote:blame might go to "age"

what if i say LAST YEAR was lebron's last hurrah, or to be more precise,,,,2years ago.

father time hath come. lebron still putting up numbers is not the same as doing all the things he used to do to carry a team.

2years ago was a covid year. the nba is back to relative normalcy and with that old players like lebron/westbrook/howard/rondo/melo et al are getting older.

time is relative - the old players get old and time speeds up, the younger players mature and time is still the same

You are ultimately right. If they replaced lebrons salary with decent players they would be far better team. LeBron is playing few games and injured. Play few more games and injured. When he plays he has the worst impact since his rookie year.


ummm, lebron for two hacks seems difficult to swallow
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Post#171 » by JN61 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:50 pm

Lalouie wrote:
JN61 wrote:
Lalouie wrote:blame might go to "age"

what if i say LAST YEAR was lebron's last hurrah, or to be more precise,,,,2years ago.

father time hath come. lebron still putting up numbers is not the same as doing all the things he used to do to carry a team.

2years ago was a covid year. the nba is back to relative normalcy and with that old players like lebron/westbrook/howard/rondo/melo et al are getting older.

time is relative - the old players get old and time speeds up, the younger players mature and time is still the same

You are ultimately right. If they replaced lebrons salary with decent players they would be far better team. LeBron is playing few games and injured. Play few more games and injured. When he plays he has the worst impact since his rookie year.


ummm, lebron for two hacks seems difficult to swallow


I'm just pointing out how many games he has missed and ultimately Lakers would have better record now if they had proper players for same amount of money than Lebron sitting on the courtside. Going forward you obviously want Lebron over 2 solid players but the question was to overreact to Lakers slow start.
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Re: Lakers are 9-10. Who's to blame? 

Post#172 » by DwayneSchintzus » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:51 pm

to me its a combination of lebron's decline, AD not living up to expectations, Westbrook being Westbrook, and a lack of young legs on the roster.

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