Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career

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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#161 » by JN61 » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:33 pm

SpreeS wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:What do Warriors fans think? Is he playing injured? Father time? change of role/teammates affecting him etc? Or does everything seem otherwise fine and he's going to come out and have a 30 game flaming hot run at any moment?


Wtf who knows what is on his mind. Parents divorce? How to explane this:

3P

def - very tight 0.545
def - tight 0.432
def - open 0.335
def - wide open 0.423

open 3p shot is 30.4% of all Curry FGA. He misses open shots and makes tights shots.


You misuse (intentionally or not) these statistics. His very tightly defended 3 point shots are just at 1.3% frequency only 0.3 per game so that is pure statistical anomality which can jump to any direction in matter of few games. Tight defended isn't big volume either, just 13.9% and 2.8 attempts per game, wide open is at 17.7% which accuracy is also bellow his typical %s.

Open one is the regular shot which he shoots the most and misses the most so this is actual the most representing of his normal 3 point shot, almost 50% of his 3 point shots are that.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#162 » by CM17 » Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:32 pm

I have a feeling the whole record-chasing messed him up. Right now he's still on record for the most consecutive games with a 3PM.

This and/or something else seems to be on his mind.

And I think the whole team is not doing so well anymore, so that doesn't help much either.

Let's see how he is doing after the All-Star break.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#163 » by nfmos » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:54 pm

SpreeS wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:What do Warriors fans think? Is he playing injured? Father time? change of role/teammates affecting him etc? Or does everything seem otherwise fine and he's going to come out and have a 30 game flaming hot run at any moment?


Wtf who knows what is on his mind. Parents divorce? How to explane this:

3P

def - very tight 0.545
def - tight 0.432
def - open 0.335
def - wide open 0.423

open 3p shot is 30.4% of all Curry FGA. He misses open shots and makes tights shots.


Do you have these stats for previous years? One of the things i always thought interesting with Steph is that he always has seemed to lose focus sometimes and play really loose, and its almost like he doesnt really dial it in until something happens to get him more into the game, like he gets mad, or the crowd gets into it or something.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#164 » by Biff » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:18 pm

So far his only good month was November. His scoring average for December was good but his splits were 40/38/89, which are way below his career average. January he has been absolutely horrendous with splits of 36/30/88. Is this a trend that will continue? Who knows, but a two month shooting slump has to be concerning.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#165 » by ILOVEIT » Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:02 pm

nfmos wrote:
SpreeS wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:What do Warriors fans think? Is he playing injured? Father time? change of role/teammates affecting him etc? Or does everything seem otherwise fine and he's going to come out and have a 30 game flaming hot run at any moment?


Wtf who knows what is on his mind. Parents divorce? How to explane this:

3P

def - very tight 0.545
def - tight 0.432
def - open 0.335
def - wide open 0.423

open 3p shot is 30.4% of all Curry FGA. He misses open shots and makes tights shots.


Do you have these stats for previous years? One of the things i always thought interesting with Steph is that he always has seemed to lose focus sometimes and play really loose, and its almost like he doesnt really dial it in until something happens to get him more into the game, like he gets mad, or the crowd gets into it or something.


Two possible reasons for lower shooting percentages for open shots.
1 - He is a big time rhythm shooter....which means on tough shots he's in motion usually.
2 - He performs worse with expectations. I think this is closer to it: Crazy while off balance shots hotly contested are amazing miracles when they go in. Missing a stand still wide open shot is more pressure for him. I think he's a below average clutch performer and this stat lends support to it. He's AMAZING in come backs (all gravy, no pressure)...he's below average in final shots with the game on the line.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#166 » by GregOden » Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:28 pm

The question is if Curry is declining why is it manifesting in his shooting yet Lebron is having one of his best shooting years lmao.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#167 » by D.Brasco » Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:03 pm

GregOden wrote:The question is if Curry is declining why is it manifesting in his shooting yet Lebron is having one of his best shooting years lmao.


It's almost like they are two different players or something?
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#168 » by DroseReturnChi » Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:30 pm

GregOden wrote:The question is if Curry is declining why is it manifesting in his shooting yet Lebron is having one of his best shooting years lmao.



curry always has been a horrible shooter. its just that he has no hope this yr with multiple slumps his 3% might be back to 25% he belonged to 2yrs ago.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#169 » by DroseReturnChi » Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:36 pm

Biff wrote:So far his only good month was November. His scoring average for December was good but his splits were 40/38/89, which are way below his career average. January he has been absolutely horrendous with splits of 36/30/88. Is this a trend that will continue? Who knows, but a two month shooting slump has to be concerning.


you need to analyze his career lows 2 yrs ago and this yr. its not a coincidence gs has looked the most vulnerable without kd and klay. 50/40 split was basically a mirage he averaged those numbers while playing with the most stacked team in history. not only he is declining with age, it proves he cant do it by himself and he chokes with no help. currys is closer to a career 45/38 type shooter in reality if he was drafted by the wolves. even a nobody like buddy hield would look like all nba if an entire system was built for him.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#170 » by Ayt » Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:00 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:
GregOden wrote:The question is if Curry is declining why is it manifesting in his shooting yet Lebron is having one of his best shooting years lmao.



curry always has been a horrible shooter. its just that he has no hope this yr with multiple slumps his 3% might be back to 25% he belonged to 2yrs ago.


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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#171 » by Biff » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:41 pm

DroseReturnChi wrote:
Biff wrote:So far his only good month was November. His scoring average for December was good but his splits were 40/38/89, which are way below his career average. January he has been absolutely horrendous with splits of 36/30/88. Is this a trend that will continue? Who knows, but a two month shooting slump has to be concerning.


you need to analyze his career lows 2 yrs ago and this yr. its not a coincidence gs has looked the most vulnerable without kd and klay. 50/40 split was basically a mirage he averaged those numbers while playing with the most stacked team in history. not only he is declining with age, it proves he cant do it by himself and he chokes with no help. currys is closer to a career 45/38 type shooter in reality if he was drafted by the wolves. even a nobody like buddy hield would look like all nba if an entire system was built for him.



Curry played 5 games 2 years ago, so that isn't a sample size you can reasonably use. And you're so wrong about Curry it's hilarious. Dude would have been an insanely good shooter with any team he was on. His first 4 years in the league, when the Warriors weren't very good, his lowest percentage was 43.7%. 38%? Too funny.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#172 » by TwoStarz » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:45 pm

Biff wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
Biff wrote:So far his only good month was November. His scoring average for December was good but his splits were 40/38/89, which are way below his career average. January he has been absolutely horrendous with splits of 36/30/88. Is this a trend that will continue? Who knows, but a two month shooting slump has to be concerning.


you need to analyze his career lows 2 yrs ago and this yr. its not a coincidence gs has looked the most vulnerable without kd and klay. 50/40 split was basically a mirage he averaged those numbers while playing with the most stacked team in history. not only he is declining with age, it proves he cant do it by himself and he chokes with no help. currys is closer to a career 45/38 type shooter in reality if he was drafted by the wolves. even a nobody like buddy hield would look like all nba if an entire system was built for him.



Curry played 5 games 2 years ago, so that isn't a sample size you can reasonably use. And you're so wrong about Curry it's hilarious. Dude would have been an insanely good shooter with any team he was on. His first 4 years in the league, when the Warriors weren't very good, his lowest percentage was 43.7%. 38%? Too funny.

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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#173 » by Kingdibs19 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:58 pm

GregOden wrote:The question is if Curry is declining why is it manifesting in his shooting yet Lebron is having one of his best shooting years lmao.


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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#174 » by SF_Warriors » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:59 pm

DroseReturnChi wrote:
GregOden wrote:The question is if Curry is declining why is it manifesting in his shooting yet Lebron is having one of his best shooting years lmao.



curry always has been a horrible shooter. its just that he has no hope this yr with multiple slumps his 3% might be back to 25% he belonged to 2yrs ago.


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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#175 » by OfficialRef » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:09 pm

Warriors are still stacked enough to win it all even with his bad shooting, klay coming back and draymond out for many games.

Once the big 3 gets hot, nobody will beat this ridiculous Warriors team.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#176 » by Biff » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:30 pm

TwoStarz wrote:
Biff wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
you need to analyze his career lows 2 yrs ago and this yr. its not a coincidence gs has looked the most vulnerable without kd and klay. 50/40 split was basically a mirage he averaged those numbers while playing with the most stacked team in history. not only he is declining with age, it proves he cant do it by himself and he chokes with no help. currys is closer to a career 45/38 type shooter in reality if he was drafted by the wolves. even a nobody like buddy hield would look like all nba if an entire system was built for him.



Curry played 5 games 2 years ago, so that isn't a sample size you can reasonably use. And you're so wrong about Curry it's hilarious. Dude would have been an insanely good shooter with any team he was on. His first 4 years in the league, when the Warriors weren't very good, his lowest percentage was 43.7%. 38%? Too funny.

Surprised people still give this troll the time of their days. Amazing


Guess I haven't come across him enough to know better.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#177 » by DonaldSanders » Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:04 pm

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Guess I haven't come across him enough to know better.



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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#178 » by TacoLord » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:58 pm

I think the problem is that Steph learned too much from the WNBA...
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#179 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:50 pm

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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#180 » by ty 4191 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:46 pm

Is 45 games/1561 MP/902 FGA a significant sample size, statistically?

Any professional statisticians want to give this a stab?

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