[Woj] Reddish traded to Knicks

[FreeThrowLine]

Steal for the Knicks, surprised that’s all it took

[CKB]

I didn't imply that either. I wouldn't say giving up a 1st round pick for him is practically nothing. That 1st round pick will convey, it won't be a lottery pick but it'll convey. Knicks' best players are already inconsistent, and they added another very inconsistent piece to the core.

I mean are we sure it will convey? The Hornets are only 1 game up from it not conveying this year. But lets say that it does convey. Would you rather take a shot on Cam or have a 1st round pick this year in the 20s? Id rather go with Cam.

You're getting a guy that is in his 3rd year who was a top 10 pick and who has shown flashes. And worst case scenario you give up a non lotto pick for him and a chance of 2 2nds. Id do that with no hesitation.

The pick is protected top 18 this year, top 16 next year, then top 14 protected for two years after that. Maybe it doesn't convey this year or next, but it'll convey in the two years after that unless you believe that Hornets won't be a playoffs team for at least 1 of the next 4 seasons (including this year). So yeah I'm sure it'll convey. Also from Hawks standpoint, this is also about not wanting to pay Cam what he'll ask for. That's the part of the trade that's overlooked. Hawks would rather move on and end up drafting another rookie on a cheap contract (if they keep the pick), than pay Cam Reddish.

If you read the Hawks blog, you know how many fans love Cam and are outraged that they traded him for a protected first. On the other side, Knicks fans are ecstatic to trade Knox + protected first for Cam. Protected 1st for 1.5 season of Cam is decent. Hawks get to be under the luxury tax cap and trade someone that they are not going to re-sign. It is good trade for both teams.

[alevirfe]

strange trade. Knicks gave up basically nothing to get a young, somewhat promising player

I'm guessing the Hawks didn't want to commit playing time to Reddish and knew his pay day was coming up

[RandlesCornrows]

Knicks are still loaded with picks and youth. No way there ain’t no other moves. I can see the Knicks trade for Brunson or a big time move now. Can’t keep all of

RJ Barrett
Cam Reddish
Obi Toppin
Mitchell Robinson
Quentin Grimes
Miles McBride
Jherico Sims

7 really damn **** exciting players

[Capn'O]

If the Hawks are trying to get better I don't understand why they traded Reddish for a worse player and a pick that might never convert.

IMO, it was a deal to get a pick and get under the tax for a player they weren't gonna pay. They may also need that pick for a follow up deal.

The Hawks were already under the Luxury Tax by $1.8 million. This trade gave them another $500K under and cleared a roster spot.
The deal is for the pick, Knox is salary filler.

Hoopshype had them at 137.3 mil with the tax at 136.6 mil prior to the trade

[Roddy B for 3]

Reddish sucks, can barley dribble. I like this trade for ATL, especially of Reddish was a problem in the locker room.

He can obviously do things and has hit or miss talent, but its overwhelmingly miss. So, you can't count on him.

[raleigh]

My not so bold prediction

Now that the need for cognitive dissonance / self illusion is gone lots of the Hawks fans who hyped Reddish as a steal / sure thing star / major building block will immediately act like he was nothing more than fools gold

FWIW, he's a major source of disagreement among Hawks fans. No middle ground.

[Duke4life831]

Hmmm. This smells of “let’s go all out for Zion”

In all honesty this move probably hurts their chance of getting Zion more than it does help it.

I dont think they needed to add Cam to try and convince Zion to come play in NY. RJ was the guy Zion was very close to while at Duke. If anything all this does is take away a possible 1st round pick to trade for Zion.

[matt6715]

So weird that the Hawks were so quick to get off a guy like Reddish. Only makes sense if they needed another FRP to swing for a bigger fish via trade

[MeloNY]

Nice trade for the Knicks who get to develop a young 3 and D wing who is starting to show promise. Don't be surprised when a healthy Zion's a Knick in a few years.

[blueNorange]

you know if you told me zion has zero motivation to get back on the court because of the team he's on, i'll believe you.

he always wanted new york

[Bologna Smasher]

Wouldn't be surprised to see the Hawks trade the pick closer to the deadline in a bigger trade.

[Ballerhogger]

Knox is gone !!

[GeorgeSears]

It's a good move for the Hawks. The way people talk about Barrett and Reddish it's as if they're on the cusp of being all-stars when the reality couldn't more different. 3 years into a player's career, you know who he's going to be. They've been in the league for 3 years, haven't made a dent. Barrett is a PF in a SG's body who can only give you 15 ppg on poor shooting splits and nothing else. Reddish avg. less points but is a better FT shooter.

More than likely, Reddish was going to demand the kind of price tag the Hawks weren't willing to commit to.

[Bulliever2020]

Knicks trying to recreate the big 3 Duke team that failed miserably in the NCAA Tourney is such a Knicks thing to do.

[Duke4life831]

Knicks trying to recreate the big 3 Duke team that failed miserably in the NCAA Tourney is such a Knicks thing to do.

Like I said earlier in this thread, the Knicks actually have a competent coach. The thing that killed that Duke team was having an incompetent coach.

[Im Coming Home]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Knox pan out with the Hawks, kid has the talent just not the brain or killer instinct, maybe this will be a wake up call for him.

[Bulliever2020]

Knicks trying to recreate the big 3 Duke team that failed miserably in the NCAA Tourney is such a Knicks thing to do.

Like I said earlier in this thread, the Knicks actually have a competent coach. The thing that killed that Duke team was having an incompetent coach.

Yeah, ok. I'm sure the results will be much different in the NBA.

[Duke4life831]

Knicks trying to recreate the big 3 Duke team that failed miserably in the NCAA Tourney is such a Knicks thing to do.

Like I said earlier in this thread, the Knicks actually have a competent coach. The thing that killed that Duke team was having an incompetent coach.

Yeah, ok. I'm sure the results will be much different in the NBA.

I didnt say that. Im saying that Duke team failed because of not having a competent coach. That trio (foursome because of Tre Jones) had a massive talent advantage against every other college team. A Zion/RJ/Cam trio would not have a massive talent advantage over NBA teams. All Im saying is that trio would be apart of a better coached team because they're being coached by Thibs instead of K.

[shtolky]

It's a good move for the Hawks. The way people talk about Barrett and Reddish it's as if they're on the cusp of being all-stars when the reality couldn't more different. 3 years into a player's career, you know who he's going to be. They've been in the league for 3 years, haven't made a dent. Barrett is a PF in a SG's body who can only give you 15 ppg on poor shooting splits and nothing else. Reddish avg. less points but is a better FT shooter.

More than likely, Reddish was going to demand the kind of price tag the Hawks weren't willing to commit to.

This is objectively false. There are plenty of players who took time, years, to become the player they ended up becoming. And they haven't been in the league for three years, this is their third year (I know what you're trying to say, but they've barely played over 100 NBA games). Two plus years, and RJ has shown growth every year. RJ is just 21. Reddish is 22. RJ has also been fantastic since returning from COVID, a much different player than he was before. He's probably going to finish the season as an above average three point shooter by percentage, just as he was last year. He's also a good defender (as we saw last night). Also, the Knicks aren't forced to pay Reddish. They gave up a middling pick and a player who never saw the court for a player who has shown flashes this year. It's clearly a good trade for the Knicks. The team also has an extra Dallas 2023 pick so it's not like they gave up a pick they couldn't afford.