Jokic 49/14/10 as DEN beats LAC

[Hussien Fatal]

Jokic 23-16 59%
Embiid 23-10 70% Joel over the last month has averaged 32, 10 and 5 all while being way more athletic than Jokic too. Joel scored 50 in 27 mins played 1 minute in the 4th while Jokic needed overtime to beat the clippers G league team.

[CobraCommander]

You guys are hilarious. Embiid did this in 27 minutes. The fastest 50 points of all time. Jokic was spectacular but he needed overtime to do it.



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It’s not taking anything away from Embiid to simply say Jokic is the best. Embiid a monster and worthy of consideration but jokics the best doing it right now regardless

[The Rebel]

Jokic played FORTY ONE MINUTES

Embiid played TWENTY SEVEN MINUTES.

Again, Embiid got 50 and 12 (and 3 blocks) in TWENTY SEVEN MINUTES.

Hell, If Embiid played 41 minutes last night he would have probably put up 70 and 20 the way he was rolling...and that is NOT hyperbole.

Jokic did something only 2 other centers in history have ever done, many more have put up 50 point games.

Last night, Embiid had the eighth most productive game (points scored per minute played) IN NBA HISTORY.

Not of "all centers". OF ALL PLAYERS.

And of course, this elite scoring is not thing new, as Embiid is the most productive per-36 minutes scorer OF ANY PLAYER IN NBA HISTORY.

Embiid - 0.81 ppm per 36

MICHAEL JORDAN - 0.79 ppm per 36

Seriously. Embiid would have scored SEVENTY points last night if they didn't take him out because the game was in hand.

And please stop with the "at least the Nuggets played a playoff team" ish. You know people can read a box score...right?

You say "Bamba got 32". I say "Zubac got 32". And who the f was playing for the Clippers? Reggie Jackson? What has he ever done? The team that the Nuggets had to go to OT AT HOME to beat will be lucky to be a play-in team. But you know that.

While I know I participate in these "Embiid vs Jokic" threads, I would be THRILLED if the mods BANNED any future threads on the GB about these two guys. it is SO F'K'N TIRING to deal with.

Jokic literally has the fastest triple double in history, he did that against a playoff team. What he did last night 1 of only 4 guys in history of the NBA, while Embiid scored well against the worst team in the NBA without their starting C, come back when he actually puts up great numbers against teams with starting quality Centers.

[GeorgeSears]

That assist that Jokic made is up there as one of the greatest of all time. It's there with Peja Stojakovic's behind the back full court pass, Kyle Lowry's inbound pass, Jason Williams' full court bounce pass.

[The Rebel]

It's is astounding that Jokic hasn't received more criticism for his terrible temper.

Markieff Morris still hasn't played a game since his cowardly push in the back has he? More punishment was warranted for such unsportsmanlike and boorish behavior.

His reputation should be more tarnished than it is.

"terrible temper" ....such an overreaction
He reacted to a provocation. It ended right there. Also, nobody cares anymore because it's been a long time and it has nothing to do with the triple double.

it's not just that incident- totally unjustifiable to shove a guy in the back by the way.
He also frequently blows up at the refs and should get more techs. In fact, he should have been kicked out of last night's game. He got one tech and then immediately started yelling in the ref's face. What a disgrace.

For example, I totally condemned Beverley for his horrendous shove of CP3. All Nuggets fans should also condemn Jokic for what he did to Markieff- and the consequences were worse physically for Markieff than CP3.

LMAO Morris hit him back with a cheap shot, he has no right to cry about retaliation, and the fact that you are still pushing that angle says more about you than Jokic. As for Jokic's temper, most Nuggets fans wish it were half as bad as you are making it out to be, maybe then the refs would treat him fairly.

[Cubbies2120]

The clippers are not a good team.

But they 2x better than the magic … literally by record

Embiid had the quickest 50 points of all time. Against any team thats incredibly impressive. Jokic also had an insane game, but it took him more than 1 more quarter to do it. For people to use this as a "hold my beer" moment, is funny given how much longer it took him to earn his stats.

Quickest 50 points of all time? That's cap.

Klay dropped 60 in 29 minutes. Are we really going to look at EXACTLY 50 points as the cutoff? Are you intentionally misleading people?

[Ugly0598]

he literally carried the team They need another defender other than aaron gordon who is useless on that end.

Carried them on offense. His defense is far from being MVP level. Just like what they say about Rudy I don’t trust his defense if he want to call him #1.

You do realize that Jokic switches on the pick and roll and that just about all the points Zubac scored is the responsibility of the forwards don't you? If you are going to criticize someone's defense, you should learn about how the defense he plays on works or you just look and sound ignorant.

Didn’t have time to watch the whole game. Still had to watch LA/IND, UTA/HOU, CHA/BOS. Jokic is a top 5 player in the league. Barton/Morris are honestly decent & Gordon is OK. I’d probably watch more if Nuggets fans would lighten up.

[The Rebel]

Carried them on offense. His defense is far from being MVP level. Just like what they say about Rudy I don’t trust his defense if he want to call him #1.

You do realize that Jokic switches on the pick and roll and that just about all the points Zubac scored is the responsibility of the forwards don't you? If you are going to criticize someone's defense, you should learn about how the defense he plays on works or you just look and sound ignorant.

Didn’t have time to watch the whole game. Still had to watch LA/IND, UTA/HOU, CHA/BOS. Jokic is a top 5 player in the league. Barton/Morris are honestly decent & Gordon is OK. I’d probably watch more if Nuggets fans would lighten up.

So you admit that you don't watch the Nuggets but want to make comments about Jokic's defense? Why prove your ignorance?

[Cubbies2120]

Jokic 23-16 59%
Embiid 23-10 70% Joel over the last month has averaged 32, 10 and 5 all while being way more athletic than Jokic too. Joel scored 50 in 27 mins played 1 minute in the 4th while Jokic needed overtime to beat the clippers G league team.

Could be worse, he could have lost to the Atlanta Hawks high school team.

I'm absolutely loving the fact that Jokic's game, on national TV, overshadowed Embiid's game that pass is one of the greatest assists we'll see, and that's what's being played on the highlights today.

The tears are delicious

[dygaction]

But they 2x better than the magic … literally by record

Embiid had the quickest 50 points of all time. Against any team thats incredibly impressive. Jokic also had an insane game, but it took him more than 1 more quarter to do it. For people to use this as a "hold my beer" moment, is funny given how much longer it took him to earn his stats.

Quickest 50 points of all time? That's cap.

Klay dropped 60 in 29 minutes. Are we really going to look at EXACTLY 50 points as the cutoff? Are you intentionally misleading people?

Lol, so true. By that standard, TMac's 35s/13p can be converted to 1069p/48min.

[ty 4191]

David Robinson led the league in PER multiple years but got owned by Hakeem in the Playoffs. That's why even though Robinson had better stats, it's universally agreed that Hakeem was the better player.

One single series does not a career make. Robinson's teams were 32-14 overall against Hakeem's teams. That's hardly Hakeem "owning" Robinson.

I wouldn't say it's "universally agreed". As we continue to progress with advanced impact metrics, David Robinson continues to look underrated and undervalued by the general sporting fan, and among sportswriters.

Robinson was quite arguably a more valuable/effective player (than Hakeem) before he broke his foot, which decimated his production forever, in December 1996.

[ty 4191]

Can someone tell me how people think Steph Curry is better than this guy?

Hype.

[Ugly0598]

You do realize that Jokic switches on the pick and roll and that just about all the points Zubac scored is the responsibility of the forwards don't you? If you are going to criticize someone's defense, you should learn about how the defense he plays on works or you just look and sound ignorant.

Didn’t have time to watch the whole game. Still had to watch LA/IND, UTA/HOU, CHA/BOS. Jokic is a top 5 player in the league. Barton/Morris are honestly decent & Gordon is OK. I’d probably watch more if Nuggets fans would lighten up.

So you admit that you don't watch the Nuggets but want to make comments about Jokic's defense? Why prove your ignorance?

No I watch the Nuggets casually and go to some games. Not sure why you keep going on and on about it. Why do you care about my opinion?

[Roscoe Sheed]

"terrible temper" ....such an overreaction
He reacted to a provocation. It ended right there. Also, nobody cares anymore because it's been a long time and it has nothing to do with the triple double.

it's not just that incident- totally unjustifiable to shove a guy in the back by the way.
He also frequently blows up at the refs and should get more techs. In fact, he should have been kicked out of last night's game. He got one tech and then immediately started yelling in the ref's face. What a disgrace.

For example, I totally condemned Beverley for his horrendous shove of CP3. All Nuggets fans should also condemn Jokic for what he did to Markieff- and the consequences were worse physically for Markieff than CP3.

LMAO Morris hit him back with a cheap shot, he has no right to cry about retaliation, and the fact that you are still pushing that angle says more about you than Jokic. As for Jokic's temper, most Nuggets fans wish it were half as bad as you are making it out to be, maybe then the refs would treat him fairly.

What Jokic did was far worse than what Morris did. He is still injured. Jokic better watch himself the next time he plays Miami or Markieff. I would not be surprised at all if there was retaliation. You never shove a guy that hard in the back- you’re mad- fine, go up to his face and fight him from the front

[Infinite Llamas]

it's not just that incident- totally unjustifiable to shove a guy in the back by the way.
He also frequently blows up at the refs and should get more techs. In fact, he should have been kicked out of last night's game. He got one tech and then immediately started yelling in the ref's face. What a disgrace.

For example, I totally condemned Beverley for his horrendous shove of CP3. All Nuggets fans should also condemn Jokic for what he did to Markieff- and the consequences were worse physically for Markieff than CP3.

LMAO Morris hit him back with a cheap shot, he has no right to cry about retaliation, and the fact that you are still pushing that angle says more about you than Jokic. As for Jokic's temper, most Nuggets fans wish it were half as bad as you are making it out to be, maybe then the refs would treat him fairly.

What Jokic did was far worse than what Morris did. He is still injured. Jokic better watch himself the next time he plays Miami or Markieff. I would not be surprised at all if there was retaliation. You never shove a guy that hard in the back- you’re mad- fine, go up to his face and fight him from the front

Retaliation as in pose in front of a security guard with forced menacing-hold-me-back looks on their faces?

Yeah, Jokic is trembling I’m sure.

And the Heat are playing just fine. I’m sure they often forget that Markieff is even on their team. They ain’t going to go to bat for some useless, clout chasing role player.

[Roscoe Sheed]

LMAO Morris hit him back with a cheap shot, he has no right to cry about retaliation, and the fact that you are still pushing that angle says more about you than Jokic. As for Jokic's temper, most Nuggets fans wish it were half as bad as you are making it out to be, maybe then the refs would treat him fairly.

What Jokic did was far worse than what Morris did. He is still injured. Jokic better watch himself the next time he plays Miami or Markieff. I would not be surprised at all if there was retaliation. You never shove a guy that hard in the back- you’re mad- fine, go up to his face and fight him from the front

Retaliation as in pose in front of a security guard with forced menacing-hold-me-back looks on their faces?

Yeah, Jokic is trembling I’m sure.

And the Heat are playing just fine. I’m sure they often forget that Markieff is even on their team. They ain’t going to go to bat for some useless, clout chasing role player.

to be clear- markieff was totally wrong to commit such a foul, but shoving a guy so hard with his back turned is very dangerous as we saw as he is still injured

[eyeatoma]

But they 2x better than the magic … literally by record

Embiid had the quickest 50 points of all time. Against any team thats incredibly impressive. Jokic also had an insane game, but it took him more than 1 more quarter to do it. For people to use this as a "hold my beer" moment, is funny given how much longer it took him to earn his stats.

Quickest 50 points of all time? That's cap.

Klay dropped 60 in 29 minutes. Are we really going to look at EXACTLY 50 points as the cutoff? Are you intentionally misleading people?

Quickest 50 point double double.

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[DroseReturnChi]

They're essentially a .50 team with a ok cast.
Can't be best player without ever making real noise in the playoffs.
Game also went into overtime for those raw stats. Great game tho.
Dude got swept by the suns and gave the Lakers as much competition as a severely injured heat team in 2020.
Top 5 maybe 3 player but definitely not clear cut best player.

You keep trolling on every Jokic's thread with the same stupid arguments. I wont even bother list contra argument again, you are just the troll .

im a jokic fanboy but it is weird a mvp cant put a team above 500. i agree jokic has to at least put team to 2nd round even with injuries. otherwise, curry stans are going to argue he is mvp and get away with warriors first round exits. i do not want a double standard just bc i dislike curry.

[Dupp]

So he obviously saw embiids 50 and just wanted to let everyone he’s still the man.

[Cubbies2120]

They're essentially a .50 team with a ok cast.
Can't be best player without ever making real noise in the playoffs.
Game also went into overtime for those raw stats. Great game tho.
Dude got swept by the suns and gave the Lakers as much competition as a severely injured heat team in 2020.
Top 5 maybe 3 player but definitely not clear cut best player.

You keep trolling on every Jokic's thread with the same stupid arguments. I wont even bother list contra argument again, you are just the troll .

im a jokic fanboy but it is weird a mvp cant put a team above 500. i agree jokic has to at least put team to 2nd round even with injuries. otherwise, curry stans are going to argue he is mvp and get away with warriors first round exits. i do not want a double standard just bc i dislike curry.

They've won 58% of games that he's played in, but they're 1-4 without him. They're above .500 now anyways, and wanna hear the best part? They've had the 6th toughest schedule so far, and they're going to have, literally, the easiest schedule remaining of any team in the NBA. I expect them to be significantly above .500 assuming he doesn't lose a THIRD starter, and Jokic stays healthy

Source: http://powerrankingsguru.com/nba/strength-of-schedule.php