JJ Redick speaks the Truth - 80/90s NBA vs Today

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Re: JJ Redick speaks the Truth - 80/90s NBA vs Today 

Post#161 » by Backcountry » Thu Jun 9, 2022 7:55 pm

That video was harder to watch than anything I've seen lately. Sounded like 3 drunk guys at the bar, getting louder and louder and constantly changing the point of their arguments as they lost their focus. "Yelling makes me right!"

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Re: JJ Redick speaks the Truth - 80/90s NBA vs Today 

Post#162 » by Blame Rasho » Thu Jun 9, 2022 7:58 pm

jerok wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:Tyson Fury would get killed in the 80s or 90s. Jeez. Boxing is one sport where the skills needed to excel esp at the heavyweight division has regressed significantly.


Tyson Fury has great pure boxing skills with und underrated power man.
Very agile with fast hands at over 2m tall, 6"9.
I'm sure he'll do fine in the 80s or 90s.


Pure boxing skills? Hahaha. He hugs constantly like Ruiz did. His best win over his career was over a guy who came late to boxing and was good just because he had heavy hands.

Right now it is the absolute dead point in heavyweight boxing and in any other era would have never gotten one of the abc belts much less the actual ring belt.
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Re: JJ Redick speaks the Truth - 80/90s NBA vs Today 

Post#163 » by OdomFan » Thu Jun 9, 2022 10:16 pm

jerok wrote:
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jerok wrote:
Except when we compare Greatness of today vs 80/90s right? All of a sudden modern greats aren't so great anymore.

I think you missed the entire point of the topic.

I didn't miss the point of anything. I'm pointing out that past generations from any era can play well in any modern age because we've already seen many veterans continue to play well past their prime. So if they could do that then, they'd be able to be even more effective right there in a modern era if they were in their primes.

80s still played well in the 2000s, 90s guys still played well in the 2010s.


Still missing the point kind sir.

You have no point.
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Re: JJ Redick speaks the Truth - 80/90s NBA vs Today 

Post#164 » by NO-KG-AI » Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:23 am

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Is Lebron a better athlete than David Robinson?
Something to think about :roll:


There is literally 1 LeBron, it's not evidence that the human race is evolving. Just like there not being anything to parallel Shaq proves nothing about evolution.

Besides 2003 LeBron was way more athletic than this current version of LeBron and wasn't nearly the player. And the two best offensive players in the league are fat, slow, and white. :lol:



So there is this one of a kind player name LeBron right?
But compared to 80 and 90s players he is just average, Therefore, he won't be successful in that era, correct?

And these Slow, Fat and White dudes, would probably be waterboys in the 80s and 90s?


LeBron would be a top 2-3 player of all time in any era he played in. I don't know how you took the leap you did from what I said.
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Re: JJ Redick speaks the Truth - 80/90s NBA vs Today 

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Re: JJ Redick speaks the Truth - 80/90s NBA vs Today 

Post#166 » by SichtingLives » Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:33 am

MemphisX wrote:
Eric Bieniemy wrote:Players today are definitely better at dribbling and shooting threes, but, overall, guys of 35 years ago were less spoiled/more humble and were collectively better in the post and midrange.

On defense, team defense is much more complex today, but defenders were allowed to touch offensive players much more in days of yesteryear.

Who was better? The nineties was an ugly brand of basketball, fellas. Today's brand is just vanilla. The eighties was the most exciting.

The sheer volume of skilled (dribbling and shooting) guys has never been higher than today, but these same guys are often clueless with their backs to the basket and in the midrange.

This is a nuanced argument, and anyone painting with a broad brush is just sensationalizing.



When people say this, what they really mean is the Lakers vs Celtics NBA Finals was exciting because you were not watching Cleveland vs Denver on a Tuesday during the regular season. So they are comparing the NBA Finals from the 80s, to the 100s of games they consume right now.


And yet the current NBA commissioner is trying to prop up the corpse of the modern NBA regular season by abandoning it for some freakshow tournament. That's how much those Cleveland vs. Denver on a Tuesday games suck now.
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Re: JJ Redick speaks the Truth - 80/90s NBA vs Today 

Post#167 » by MemphisX » Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:07 am

SichtingLives wrote:
MemphisX wrote:
Eric Bieniemy wrote:Players today are definitely better at dribbling and shooting threes, but, overall, guys of 35 years ago were less spoiled/more humble and were collectively better in the post and midrange.

On defense, team defense is much more complex today, but defenders were allowed to touch offensive players much more in days of yesteryear.

Who was better? The nineties was an ugly brand of basketball, fellas. Today's brand is just vanilla. The eighties was the most exciting.

The sheer volume of skilled (dribbling and shooting) guys has never been higher than today, but these same guys are often clueless with their backs to the basket and in the midrange.

This is a nuanced argument, and anyone painting with a broad brush is just sensationalizing.



When people say this, what they really mean is the Lakers vs Celtics NBA Finals was exciting because you were not watching Cleveland vs Denver on a Tuesday during the regular season. So they are comparing the NBA Finals from the 80s, to the 100s of games they consume right now.


And yet the current NBA commissioner is trying to prop up the corpse of the modern NBA regular season by abandoning it for some freakshow tournament. That's how much those Cleveland vs. Denver on a Tuesday games suck now.



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