Knicks Preparing 4yrs-100mill offer for Brunson

[Profound23]

Nothing like trading away picks to drop one horrible contract to sign someone else to another

[ILOVEIT]

That will be one of the biggest mistake in a long long history of mistakes by the Knicks. He's a solid number three option on a very good team. He's a really poor number one option.

Wow...as much as I dislike the Knicks....I'm actually hoping they become something again.

[SelfishPlayer]

That will be one of the biggest mistake in a long long history of mistakes by the Knicks. He's a solid number three option on a very good team. He's a really poor number one option.

Wow...as much as I dislike the Knicks....I'm actually hoping they become something again.

If he is a number three option, getting paid like a simple NBA starting PG, how is it a mistake? If we look at the average salary of third options on good teams then that will be substantially more than the average salary of starting PGs. If he is a third option on a good team, then the Knicks are getting a deal if they simply have to pay him like an "average" starting PG.

[Scalabrine]

everyone but barrett is miserable there

What are you even basing this off? lol

1) who in their right minds are happy to play for a treadmill sub 500 team with the worst owner in sports
2) barrett professed his love for nyk on draft day. he was practically waxing poetic about it



maybe the day will come when an FA actually chooses nyk, but until then,,,,,

so here's my observation - nyk has to buy love because no FA basketball player would "love" nyk. they dangle the brights lights and major market carrot of nyc........let's see where brunson goes. given the family ties, nyk is in a position of confidence and they rightfully should be. if brunson chooses the mavs nyk loses in the worse possible way

If Brunson chooses the Mavs, I wouldn't blame him. The Knicks would still have cap flexibility, a ton of picks, and a good stable of young players. They wouldn't be that screwed.

Maybe you meant to say that if Brunson chooses NYK then the Mavs lose in the worst possible way? That makes more sense.

[Drygon]

Kings and Knicks battle back & forth for who's the worst franchise since 2000.

Na, i think he is smart enough to know that he is not a Luka and cant carry a franchise like Luka or other superstars over an entire season. And that the Knicks fans will tear him apart first.

Just look at Grants reputation now...

this guy is 6’1. horrible move lol

I will never pay an undersized PG who is not really a playmaker for 175m. LOL. If Brunson leaves because he wants a bigger role even though Dallas offered him more money then go, but Nico should find a way still by not letting him walk for nothing. Or else, another failure for Mark Cuban like any attempts in the free agency since Dirk.

And Donnie Nelson really brought the team into sh*it hole and Nico is trying to clean his mess.

This is not really too bad for a high quality starter but is Brunson really a good fit next to RJ? In the end, he better take it to save the Knicks from making the same offer to Kyrie.

And in 2 years they will attach a frp to get ridb of him

$25m per year for a 6th man is a steep price to pay.

He was underrated as a guy making 1.8 million backing Luka. Now he will make 25 Mil expected to be Knicks star haha. Sorry if you dont see the difference, Brunson isnt changing any franchise, he is Randle of point guards.

Lol if someone pays $25M for this scrub. He’s not someone you want if you’re forking over money he’s more of a oh he’s good this year that’s great for us surprise guy. Can’t build anything with him as a major piece.

*extremely Knicks about to pay jalen Brunson $25 million a year voice*: there’s no way a team offers Jordan poole even $20 mil a year, that’s insane

What is the fascination with Brunson? I just don't see what the hype is all about.

That is nothing new, remember when Knicks gave Joakim Noah a 4 year 72 million contract? Knicks have not been good since Ewing retired due to stupid decisions like this

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

Cmon man.

I like Brunson but you're setting yourself up for major disappointment if you expect more than a third option AT BEST.

Again, I've been advocating for acquiring Brunson for some time but if you're going to go in expecting him to be a second scorer on a team you're going to end hating the guy. Which is precisely why I don't want him to sign here. The Knicks are going all in on this guy like he's prime Kobe and the fans will be let down.

The Knicks should focus on finding their own Brunson through the draft but they don't like to build their team the right way so they'll continue to overpay free agents and family miserably.

Thats the going rate for an average starting point guard in the league though. Dinwiddie, Smart, Lonzo, Brogdon, Vanvleet, Conley, Rozier, Lowry, Russell, all make between 20-30 million dollars per season. Brunson belongs in the conversation with those guys.

Knicks need to stop getting mid tier players and just suck with young talent. RJ is nice but with everything else they are currently a black hole that can maybe make it past the first round if they sign some FAs. Unless they go young and bad they'll never rebuild.

He will get paid faster than first rounders in his draft class and good for him.

I don’t think he will be a lead guy or difference maker for the knicks but they are at least doing something to try and get out of their current rut.

I like Brunson.

Solid 3rd option on a championship team.

Problem is the Knicks don't have a 1st option, or a 2nd option.

He would be a solid addition but the Knicks would be better off giving Quickley the reigns at point guard in an experimental season and live with the results.

Only pg knicks got is rose and he is not that good anymore. Ofc brunson is gonna get them some extra wins and probably evolve the players. But 25m? I dont know, I kinda hesitates as mavs now wven we drafted hardy

And Brunson as a 2nd option is a recipe for disaster and mediocrity, unless you have a generational superstar in Luka Doncic....wtf do the Knicks have, nothing even close to that

WTF are the Knicks thinking. Brunson isn't taking them anywhere. They traded two lottery picks away future picks that may never materialize.

Nothing like trading away picks to drop one horrible contract to sign someone else to another

That will be one of the biggest mistake in a long long history of mistakes by the Knicks. He's a solid number three option on a very good team. He's a really poor number one option.

Classic knickz move.

Knicks preparing to make a mistake

Easy explanation for what the knicks do, they think their fans are dumb and will support them and get excited by just making the playoffs. No real shot or plan to contend, just make the playoffs and keep the profits coming in.

I could see this being in addition to trying to make a trade for someone.

They have a lot of middle of the road pieces and a nice haul of picks now that can be used.

Brunson + resigning Robinson + Upper Tier Trade

Good offseason for the Knicks

The Knicks doubling down on mediocrity. A core of Randle / Fournier / Brunson / Robinson is pretty bad.

What they need to do is build around Barrett and see what Toppin / Grimes / Quickley have to offer. The rest is expendable.

The Knicks have a long, established history of throwing huge contacts at mediocre or above average players then ultimately having to finding ways of getting out of those overpaid contracts. Brunson's a good player but he's being pursued by an organization that has a well deserved reputation of handing out horrifically bad contracts. I don't blame anyone, especially Knicks fans, for being critical of their choices or evaluation of what constitutes a good contact.

I put the odds of this being the case and knicks become contenders as a results at near 0%.

Brunson is cool but I’m also looking at Simons from Portland and Sexton from Cleveland.

I’m trying to get a job at CAA. I think the Knicks will pay me next.

Lol Knicks. What else needs to be said

The knicks don’t deserve cap space. They just do stupid stuff like this.

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

I am a fan of Brunson but no way in hell if I was any team would I pay him $25M plus per years.He's and above average starter but not and all star level talent and on a true championship level team is ideally your 3rd or 4th option much like how Andrew Wiggins turned out for the Warriors.

Obviously Knicks would have to make other moves because have your top three being Barrett/Randle/Brunson isn't going to get you anywhere in the EAST and ceiling is a bottom end 7th or 8th seed in the EAST.

Knicks badly needa #1 option and true superstar which they don't have on their current roster or if they bring in Brunson.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing regarding Brunson

[Onlytimewilltel]

Kings and Knicks battle back & forth for who's the worst franchise since 2000.

Na, i think he is smart enough to know that he is not a Luka and cant carry a franchise like Luka or other superstars over an entire season. And that the Knicks fans will tear him apart first.

Just look at Grants reputation now...

this guy is 6’1. horrible move lol

I will never pay an undersized PG who is not really a playmaker for 175m. LOL. If Brunson leaves because he wants a bigger role even though Dallas offered him more money then go, but Nico should find a way still by not letting him walk for nothing. Or else, another failure for Mark Cuban like any attempts in the free agency since Dirk.

And Donnie Nelson really brought the team into sh*it hole and Nico is trying to clean his mess.

This is not really too bad for a high quality starter but is Brunson really a good fit next to RJ? In the end, he better take it to save the Knicks from making the same offer to Kyrie.

And in 2 years they will attach a frp to get ridb of him

$25m per year for a 6th man is a steep price to pay.

He was underrated as a guy making 1.8 million backing Luka. Now he will make 25 Mil expected to be Knicks star haha. Sorry if you dont see the difference, Brunson isnt changing any franchise, he is Randle of point guards.

Lol if someone pays $25M for this scrub. He’s not someone you want if you’re forking over money he’s more of a oh he’s good this year that’s great for us surprise guy. Can’t build anything with him as a major piece.

*extremely Knicks about to pay jalen Brunson $25 million a year voice*: there’s no way a team offers Jordan poole even $20 mil a year, that’s insane

What is the fascination with Brunson? I just don't see what the hype is all about.

That is nothing new, remember when Knicks gave Joakim Noah a 4 year 72 million contract? Knicks have not been good since Ewing retired due to stupid decisions like this

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

Cmon man.

I like Brunson but you're setting yourself up for major disappointment if you expect more than a third option AT BEST.

Again, I've been advocating for acquiring Brunson for some time but if you're going to go in expecting him to be a second scorer on a team you're going to end hating the guy. Which is precisely why I don't want him to sign here. The Knicks are going all in on this guy like he's prime Kobe and the fans will be let down.

The Knicks should focus on finding their own Brunson through the draft but they don't like to build their team the right way so they'll continue to overpay free agents and family miserably.

Thats the going rate for an average starting point guard in the league though. Dinwiddie, Smart, Lonzo, Brogdon, Vanvleet, Conley, Rozier, Lowry, Russell, all make between 20-30 million dollars per season. Brunson belongs in the conversation with those guys.

Knicks need to stop getting mid tier players and just suck with young talent. RJ is nice but with everything else they are currently a black hole that can maybe make it past the first round if they sign some FAs. Unless they go young and bad they'll never rebuild.

He will get paid faster than first rounders in his draft class and good for him.

I don’t think he will be a lead guy or difference maker for the knicks but they are at least doing something to try and get out of their current rut.

I like Brunson.

Solid 3rd option on a championship team.

Problem is the Knicks don't have a 1st option, or a 2nd option.

He would be a solid addition but the Knicks would be better off giving Quickley the reigns at point guard in an experimental season and live with the results.

Only pg knicks got is rose and he is not that good anymore. Ofc brunson is gonna get them some extra wins and probably evolve the players. But 25m? I dont know, I kinda hesitates as mavs now wven we drafted hardy

And Brunson as a 2nd option is a recipe for disaster and mediocrity, unless you have a generational superstar in Luka Doncic....wtf do the Knicks have, nothing even close to that

WTF are the Knicks thinking. Brunson isn't taking them anywhere. They traded two lottery picks away future picks that may never materialize.

Nothing like trading away picks to drop one horrible contract to sign someone else to another

That will be one of the biggest mistake in a long long history of mistakes by the Knicks. He's a solid number three option on a very good team. He's a really poor number one option.

Classic knickz move.

Knicks preparing to make a mistake

Easy explanation for what the knicks do, they think their fans are dumb and will support them and get excited by just making the playoffs. No real shot or plan to contend, just make the playoffs and keep the profits coming in.

I could see this being in addition to trying to make a trade for someone.

They have a lot of middle of the road pieces and a nice haul of picks now that can be used.

Brunson + resigning Robinson + Upper Tier Trade

Good offseason for the Knicks

The Knicks doubling down on mediocrity. A core of Randle / Fournier / Brunson / Robinson is pretty bad.

What they need to do is build around Barrett and see what Toppin / Grimes / Quickley have to offer. The rest is expendable.

The Knicks have a long, established history of throwing huge contacts at mediocre or above average players then ultimately having to finding ways of getting out of those overpaid contracts. Brunson's a good player but he's being pursued by an organization that has a well deserved reputation of handing out horrifically bad contracts. I don't blame anyone, especially Knicks fans, for being critical of their choices or evaluation of what constitutes a good contact.

I put the odds of this being the case and knicks become contenders as a results at near 0%.

Brunson is cool but I’m also looking at Simons from Portland and Sexton from Cleveland.

I’m trying to get a job at CAA. I think the Knicks will pay me next.

Lol Knicks. What else needs to be said

The knicks don’t deserve cap space. They just do stupid stuff like this.

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

I am a fan of Brunson but no way in hell if I was any team would I pay him $25M plus per years.He's and above average starter but not and all star level talent and on a true championship level team is ideally your 3rd or 4th option much like how Andrew Wiggins turned out for the Warriors.

Obviously Knicks would have to make other moves because have your top three being Barrett/Randle/Brunson isn't going to get you anywhere in the EAST and ceiling is a bottom end 7th or 8th seed in the EAST.

Knicks badly needa #1 option and true superstar which they don't have on their current roster or if they bring in Brunson.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing regarding Brunson

[canada_dry]

Kings and Knicks battle back & forth for who's the worst franchise since 2000.

Na, i think he is smart enough to know that he is not a Luka and cant carry a franchise like Luka or other superstars over an entire season. And that the Knicks fans will tear him apart first.

Just look at Grants reputation now...

this guy is 6’1. horrible move lol

I will never pay an undersized PG who is not really a playmaker for 175m. LOL. If Brunson leaves because he wants a bigger role even though Dallas offered him more money then go, but Nico should find a way still by not letting him walk for nothing. Or else, another failure for Mark Cuban like any attempts in the free agency since Dirk.

And Donnie Nelson really brought the team into sh*it hole and Nico is trying to clean his mess.

This is not really too bad for a high quality starter but is Brunson really a good fit next to RJ? In the end, he better take it to save the Knicks from making the same offer to Kyrie.

And in 2 years they will attach a frp to get ridb of him

$25m per year for a 6th man is a steep price to pay.

He was underrated as a guy making 1.8 million backing Luka. Now he will make 25 Mil expected to be Knicks star haha. Sorry if you dont see the difference, Brunson isnt changing any franchise, he is Randle of point guards.

Lol if someone pays $25M for this scrub. He’s not someone you want if you’re forking over money he’s more of a oh he’s good this year that’s great for us surprise guy. Can’t build anything with him as a major piece.

*extremely Knicks about to pay jalen Brunson $25 million a year voice*: there’s no way a team offers Jordan poole even $20 mil a year, that’s insane

What is the fascination with Brunson? I just don't see what the hype is all about.

That is nothing new, remember when Knicks gave Joakim Noah a 4 year 72 million contract? Knicks have not been good since Ewing retired due to stupid decisions like this

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

Cmon man.

I like Brunson but you're setting yourself up for major disappointment if you expect more than a third option AT BEST.

Again, I've been advocating for acquiring Brunson for some time but if you're going to go in expecting him to be a second scorer on a team you're going to end hating the guy. Which is precisely why I don't want him to sign here. The Knicks are going all in on this guy like he's prime Kobe and the fans will be let down.

The Knicks should focus on finding their own Brunson through the draft but they don't like to build their team the right way so they'll continue to overpay free agents and family miserably.

Thats the going rate for an average starting point guard in the league though. Dinwiddie, Smart, Lonzo, Brogdon, Vanvleet, Conley, Rozier, Lowry, Russell, all make between 20-30 million dollars per season. Brunson belongs in the conversation with those guys.

Knicks need to stop getting mid tier players and just suck with young talent. RJ is nice but with everything else they are currently a black hole that can maybe make it past the first round if they sign some FAs. Unless they go young and bad they'll never rebuild.

He will get paid faster than first rounders in his draft class and good for him.

I don’t think he will be a lead guy or difference maker for the knicks but they are at least doing something to try and get out of their current rut.

I like Brunson.

Solid 3rd option on a championship team.

Problem is the Knicks don't have a 1st option, or a 2nd option.

He would be a solid addition but the Knicks would be better off giving Quickley the reigns at point guard in an experimental season and live with the results.

Only pg knicks got is rose and he is not that good anymore. Ofc brunson is gonna get them some extra wins and probably evolve the players. But 25m? I dont know, I kinda hesitates as mavs now wven we drafted hardy

And Brunson as a 2nd option is a recipe for disaster and mediocrity, unless you have a generational superstar in Luka Doncic....wtf do the Knicks have, nothing even close to that

WTF are the Knicks thinking. Brunson isn't taking them anywhere. They traded two lottery picks away future picks that may never materialize.

Nothing like trading away picks to drop one horrible contract to sign someone else to another

That will be one of the biggest mistake in a long long history of mistakes by the Knicks. He's a solid number three option on a very good team. He's a really poor number one option.

Classic knickz move.

Knicks preparing to make a mistake

Easy explanation for what the knicks do, they think their fans are dumb and will support them and get excited by just making the playoffs. No real shot or plan to contend, just make the playoffs and keep the profits coming in.

I could see this being in addition to trying to make a trade for someone.

They have a lot of middle of the road pieces and a nice haul of picks now that can be used.

Brunson + resigning Robinson + Upper Tier Trade

Good offseason for the Knicks

The Knicks doubling down on mediocrity. A core of Randle / Fournier / Brunson / Robinson is pretty bad.

What they need to do is build around Barrett and see what Toppin / Grimes / Quickley have to offer. The rest is expendable.

The Knicks have a long, established history of throwing huge contacts at mediocre or above average players then ultimately having to finding ways of getting out of those overpaid contracts. Brunson's a good player but he's being pursued by an organization that has a well deserved reputation of handing out horrifically bad contracts. I don't blame anyone, especially Knicks fans, for being critical of their choices or evaluation of what constitutes a good contact.

I put the odds of this being the case and knicks become contenders as a results at near 0%.

Brunson is cool but I’m also looking at Simons from Portland and Sexton from Cleveland.

I’m trying to get a job at CAA. I think the Knicks will pay me next.

Lol Knicks. What else needs to be said

The knicks don’t deserve cap space. They just do stupid stuff like this.

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

I am a fan of Brunson but no way in hell if I was any team would I pay him $25M plus per years.He's and above average starter but not and all star level talent and on a true championship level team is ideally your 3rd or 4th option much like how Andrew Wiggins turned out for the Warriors.

Obviously Knicks would have to make other moves because have your top three being Barrett/Randle/Brunson isn't going to get you anywhere in the EAST and ceiling is a bottom end 7th or 8th seed in the EAST.

Knicks badly needa #1 option and true superstar which they don't have on their current roster or if they bring in Brunson.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing regarding Brunson

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In fairness the Knicks had been making bad moves for so long I get why people just knee jerked assumed this move would be a failure. But even the Brunson believers in the front office have to be pleasantly surprised with how well it has worked for the Knicks.

I wasn't in this thread. I found roughly what I wrote at the time. I was furiously posting against a Spida trade:

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2221594&p=101030335#p101030335

He doesn't suck ass. I don't think anyone says he sucks ass. He's a player in the 15-30 range and I would trade for him if he we had real superstars. But he is also someone that:

1. the selling team is demanding a top 5 haul for.
2. is completely incompatible with our recent, and very good signing, Brunson.
3. will be pushing 30 when we are actually able to contend, if everything goes right.
4. played on team's with very good supporting casts that could never make it out of the 2nd round. The biggest reason was their perimeter D imploded in large part due to him. In NY, he'll be paired with another tiny guard and without an elite big man on D to help him. Why should we expect a different result here? Is the Knicks supporting cast better than Utah's? No. Will his defense be less exploitable in the playoffs paired with Brunson? No

Given how Cle has played I'm kind of not sure I was right about Mitchell skepticism though I need to re-read how much Ainge wanted to bleed us for.

[G_K_F]

Kings and Knicks battle back & forth for who's the worst franchise since 2000.

Na, i think he is smart enough to know that he is not a Luka and cant carry a franchise like Luka or other superstars over an entire season. And that the Knicks fans will tear him apart first.

Just look at Grants reputation now...

this guy is 6’1. horrible move lol

I will never pay an undersized PG who is not really a playmaker for 175m. LOL. If Brunson leaves because he wants a bigger role even though Dallas offered him more money then go, but Nico should find a way still by not letting him walk for nothing. Or else, another failure for Mark Cuban like any attempts in the free agency since Dirk.

And Donnie Nelson really brought the team into sh*it hole and Nico is trying to clean his mess.

This is not really too bad for a high quality starter but is Brunson really a good fit next to RJ? In the end, he better take it to save the Knicks from making the same offer to Kyrie.

And in 2 years they will attach a frp to get ridb of him

$25m per year for a 6th man is a steep price to pay.

He was underrated as a guy making 1.8 million backing Luka. Now he will make 25 Mil expected to be Knicks star haha. Sorry if you dont see the difference, Brunson isnt changing any franchise, he is Randle of point guards.

Lol if someone pays $25M for this scrub. He’s not someone you want if you’re forking over money he’s more of a oh he’s good this year that’s great for us surprise guy. Can’t build anything with him as a major piece.

*extremely Knicks about to pay jalen Brunson $25 million a year voice*: there’s no way a team offers Jordan poole even $20 mil a year, that’s insane

What is the fascination with Brunson? I just don't see what the hype is all about.

That is nothing new, remember when Knicks gave Joakim Noah a 4 year 72 million contract? Knicks have not been good since Ewing retired due to stupid decisions like this

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

Cmon man.

I like Brunson but you're setting yourself up for major disappointment if you expect more than a third option AT BEST.

Again, I've been advocating for acquiring Brunson for some time but if you're going to go in expecting him to be a second scorer on a team you're going to end hating the guy. Which is precisely why I don't want him to sign here. The Knicks are going all in on this guy like he's prime Kobe and the fans will be let down.

The Knicks should focus on finding their own Brunson through the draft but they don't like to build their team the right way so they'll continue to overpay free agents and family miserably.

Thats the going rate for an average starting point guard in the league though. Dinwiddie, Smart, Lonzo, Brogdon, Vanvleet, Conley, Rozier, Lowry, Russell, all make between 20-30 million dollars per season. Brunson belongs in the conversation with those guys.

Knicks need to stop getting mid tier players and just suck with young talent. RJ is nice but with everything else they are currently a black hole that can maybe make it past the first round if they sign some FAs. Unless they go young and bad they'll never rebuild.

He will get paid faster than first rounders in his draft class and good for him.

I don’t think he will be a lead guy or difference maker for the knicks but they are at least doing something to try and get out of their current rut.

I like Brunson.

Solid 3rd option on a championship team.

Problem is the Knicks don't have a 1st option, or a 2nd option.

He would be a solid addition but the Knicks would be better off giving Quickley the reigns at point guard in an experimental season and live with the results.

Only pg knicks got is rose and he is not that good anymore. Ofc brunson is gonna get them some extra wins and probably evolve the players. But 25m? I dont know, I kinda hesitates as mavs now wven we drafted hardy

And Brunson as a 2nd option is a recipe for disaster and mediocrity, unless you have a generational superstar in Luka Doncic....wtf do the Knicks have, nothing even close to that

WTF are the Knicks thinking. Brunson isn't taking them anywhere. They traded two lottery picks away future picks that may never materialize.

Nothing like trading away picks to drop one horrible contract to sign someone else to another

That will be one of the biggest mistake in a long long history of mistakes by the Knicks. He's a solid number three option on a very good team. He's a really poor number one option.

Classic knickz move.

Knicks preparing to make a mistake

Easy explanation for what the knicks do, they think their fans are dumb and will support them and get excited by just making the playoffs. No real shot or plan to contend, just make the playoffs and keep the profits coming in.

I could see this being in addition to trying to make a trade for someone.

They have a lot of middle of the road pieces and a nice haul of picks now that can be used.

Brunson + resigning Robinson + Upper Tier Trade

Good offseason for the Knicks

The Knicks doubling down on mediocrity. A core of Randle / Fournier / Brunson / Robinson is pretty bad.

What they need to do is build around Barrett and see what Toppin / Grimes / Quickley have to offer. The rest is expendable.

The Knicks have a long, established history of throwing huge contacts at mediocre or above average players then ultimately having to finding ways of getting out of those overpaid contracts. Brunson's a good player but he's being pursued by an organization that has a well deserved reputation of handing out horrifically bad contracts. I don't blame anyone, especially Knicks fans, for being critical of their choices or evaluation of what constitutes a good contact.

I put the odds of this being the case and knicks become contenders as a results at near 0%.

Brunson is cool but I’m also looking at Simons from Portland and Sexton from Cleveland.

I’m trying to get a job at CAA. I think the Knicks will pay me next.

Lol Knicks. What else needs to be said

The knicks don’t deserve cap space. They just do stupid stuff like this.

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

I am a fan of Brunson but no way in hell if I was any team would I pay him $25M plus per years.He's and above average starter but not and all star level talent and on a true championship level team is ideally your 3rd or 4th option much like how Andrew Wiggins turned out for the Warriors.

Obviously Knicks would have to make other moves because have your top three being Barrett/Randle/Brunson isn't going to get you anywhere in the EAST and ceiling is a bottom end 7th or 8th seed in the EAST.

Knicks badly needa #1 option and true superstar which they don't have on their current roster or if they bring in Brunson.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing regarding Brunson

Hey, you’re quoting the wrong guy.

I was talking about and hyping Brunson way before he was even on the radar.

All I said was Brunson was not a superstar and, if you’re going to be honest (because you won’t be), there is absolutely nobody in God’s green Earth that thought that Brunson would be a franchise legend as he is now.

I’ll find you my Brunson receipts so you can kindly quit down.

[G_K_F]

Kings and Knicks battle back & forth for who's the worst franchise since 2000.

Na, i think he is smart enough to know that he is not a Luka and cant carry a franchise like Luka or other superstars over an entire season. And that the Knicks fans will tear him apart first.

Just look at Grants reputation now...

this guy is 6’1. horrible move lol

I will never pay an undersized PG who is not really a playmaker for 175m. LOL. If Brunson leaves because he wants a bigger role even though Dallas offered him more money then go, but Nico should find a way still by not letting him walk for nothing. Or else, another failure for Mark Cuban like any attempts in the free agency since Dirk.

And Donnie Nelson really brought the team into sh*it hole and Nico is trying to clean his mess.

This is not really too bad for a high quality starter but is Brunson really a good fit next to RJ? In the end, he better take it to save the Knicks from making the same offer to Kyrie.

And in 2 years they will attach a frp to get ridb of him

$25m per year for a 6th man is a steep price to pay.

He was underrated as a guy making 1.8 million backing Luka. Now he will make 25 Mil expected to be Knicks star haha. Sorry if you dont see the difference, Brunson isnt changing any franchise, he is Randle of point guards.

Lol if someone pays $25M for this scrub. He’s not someone you want if you’re forking over money he’s more of a oh he’s good this year that’s great for us surprise guy. Can’t build anything with him as a major piece.

*extremely Knicks about to pay jalen Brunson $25 million a year voice*: there’s no way a team offers Jordan poole even $20 mil a year, that’s insane

What is the fascination with Brunson? I just don't see what the hype is all about.

That is nothing new, remember when Knicks gave Joakim Noah a 4 year 72 million contract? Knicks have not been good since Ewing retired due to stupid decisions like this

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

Cmon man.

I like Brunson but you're setting yourself up for major disappointment if you expect more than a third option AT BEST.

Again, I've been advocating for acquiring Brunson for some time but if you're going to go in expecting him to be a second scorer on a team you're going to end hating the guy. Which is precisely why I don't want him to sign here. The Knicks are going all in on this guy like he's prime Kobe and the fans will be let down.

The Knicks should focus on finding their own Brunson through the draft but they don't like to build their team the right way so they'll continue to overpay free agents and family miserably.

Thats the going rate for an average starting point guard in the league though. Dinwiddie, Smart, Lonzo, Brogdon, Vanvleet, Conley, Rozier, Lowry, Russell, all make between 20-30 million dollars per season. Brunson belongs in the conversation with those guys.

Knicks need to stop getting mid tier players and just suck with young talent. RJ is nice but with everything else they are currently a black hole that can maybe make it past the first round if they sign some FAs. Unless they go young and bad they'll never rebuild.

He will get paid faster than first rounders in his draft class and good for him.

I don’t think he will be a lead guy or difference maker for the knicks but they are at least doing something to try and get out of their current rut.

I like Brunson.

Solid 3rd option on a championship team.

Problem is the Knicks don't have a 1st option, or a 2nd option.

He would be a solid addition but the Knicks would be better off giving Quickley the reigns at point guard in an experimental season and live with the results.

Only pg knicks got is rose and he is not that good anymore. Ofc brunson is gonna get them some extra wins and probably evolve the players. But 25m? I dont know, I kinda hesitates as mavs now wven we drafted hardy

And Brunson as a 2nd option is a recipe for disaster and mediocrity, unless you have a generational superstar in Luka Doncic....wtf do the Knicks have, nothing even close to that

WTF are the Knicks thinking. Brunson isn't taking them anywhere. They traded two lottery picks away future picks that may never materialize.

Nothing like trading away picks to drop one horrible contract to sign someone else to another

That will be one of the biggest mistake in a long long history of mistakes by the Knicks. He's a solid number three option on a very good team. He's a really poor number one option.

Classic knickz move.

Knicks preparing to make a mistake

Easy explanation for what the knicks do, they think their fans are dumb and will support them and get excited by just making the playoffs. No real shot or plan to contend, just make the playoffs and keep the profits coming in.

I could see this being in addition to trying to make a trade for someone.

They have a lot of middle of the road pieces and a nice haul of picks now that can be used.

Brunson + resigning Robinson + Upper Tier Trade

Good offseason for the Knicks

The Knicks doubling down on mediocrity. A core of Randle / Fournier / Brunson / Robinson is pretty bad.

What they need to do is build around Barrett and see what Toppin / Grimes / Quickley have to offer. The rest is expendable.

The Knicks have a long, established history of throwing huge contacts at mediocre or above average players then ultimately having to finding ways of getting out of those overpaid contracts. Brunson's a good player but he's being pursued by an organization that has a well deserved reputation of handing out horrifically bad contracts. I don't blame anyone, especially Knicks fans, for being critical of their choices or evaluation of what constitutes a good contact.

I put the odds of this being the case and knicks become contenders as a results at near 0%.

Brunson is cool but I’m also looking at Simons from Portland and Sexton from Cleveland.

I’m trying to get a job at CAA. I think the Knicks will pay me next.

Lol Knicks. What else needs to be said

The knicks don’t deserve cap space. They just do stupid stuff like this.

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

I am a fan of Brunson but no way in hell if I was any team would I pay him $25M plus per years.He's and above average starter but not and all star level talent and on a true championship level team is ideally your 3rd or 4th option much like how Andrew Wiggins turned out for the Warriors.

Obviously Knicks would have to make other moves because have your top three being Barrett/Randle/Brunson isn't going to get you anywhere in the EAST and ceiling is a bottom end 7th or 8th seed in the EAST.

Knicks badly needa #1 option and true superstar which they don't have on their current roster or if they bring in Brunson.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing regarding Brunson

All I needed was the eye test.

Ball was never good.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2019300&p=86459289&hilit=brunson#p86459289

These are PG's I think we should look into:

Jalen Brunson - we know the connection to Thibs via his dad, but he's also never starting there with Luka in front of it. I would consider trading a future first for him.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2019300&p=86464278&hilit=brunson#p86464278

I'm all in on Jalen Brunson.

CAA and represented by Leon's son.

Get him to NY.

Super backup pg that the Knicks salivate over cause of stats enhanced by playing on his current team, and the Knicks expecting him to be a savior, can't see the connection?

No? Lol.

Howard Eisley was a mediocre inefficient random journeyman backup PG before he came to NY. I don't think anyone had expectations of him being anything.

This kid shoots 50% from the field as a guard and already plays 25-30 mpg to begin with. He is a major piece for the Mavericks already.

I think he can be a very very good player for a long time. We need that type of efficient player who actually understands the game of basketball instead of low IQ chucking clowns. We haven't had a player with his mindset and skill in a long time.

Nobody thinks Brunson is the savior but he certainly would be a good start towards building something. No question about it for me - I've been all in on Brunson for a couple seasons now.

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Even I didn't think Brunson would ever reach these heights, though.

[HeatIn5]

Kings and Knicks battle back & forth for who's the worst franchise since 2000.

Na, i think he is smart enough to know that he is not a Luka and cant carry a franchise like Luka or other superstars over an entire season. And that the Knicks fans will tear him apart first.

Just look at Grants reputation now...

this guy is 6’1. horrible move lol

I will never pay an undersized PG who is not really a playmaker for 175m. LOL. If Brunson leaves because he wants a bigger role even though Dallas offered him more money then go, but Nico should find a way still by not letting him walk for nothing. Or else, another failure for Mark Cuban like any attempts in the free agency since Dirk.

And Donnie Nelson really brought the team into sh*it hole and Nico is trying to clean his mess.

This is not really too bad for a high quality starter but is Brunson really a good fit next to RJ? In the end, he better take it to save the Knicks from making the same offer to Kyrie.

And in 2 years they will attach a frp to get ridb of him

$25m per year for a 6th man is a steep price to pay.

He was underrated as a guy making 1.8 million backing Luka. Now he will make 25 Mil expected to be Knicks star haha. Sorry if you dont see the difference, Brunson isnt changing any franchise, he is Randle of point guards.

Lol if someone pays $25M for this scrub. He’s not someone you want if you’re forking over money he’s more of a oh he’s good this year that’s great for us surprise guy. Can’t build anything with him as a major piece.

*extremely Knicks about to pay jalen Brunson $25 million a year voice*: there’s no way a team offers Jordan poole even $20 mil a year, that’s insane

What is the fascination with Brunson? I just don't see what the hype is all about.

That is nothing new, remember when Knicks gave Joakim Noah a 4 year 72 million contract? Knicks have not been good since Ewing retired due to stupid decisions like this

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

Cmon man.

I like Brunson but you're setting yourself up for major disappointment if you expect more than a third option AT BEST.

Again, I've been advocating for acquiring Brunson for some time but if you're going to go in expecting him to be a second scorer on a team you're going to end hating the guy. Which is precisely why I don't want him to sign here. The Knicks are going all in on this guy like he's prime Kobe and the fans will be let down.

The Knicks should focus on finding their own Brunson through the draft but they don't like to build their team the right way so they'll continue to overpay free agents and family miserably.

Thats the going rate for an average starting point guard in the league though. Dinwiddie, Smart, Lonzo, Brogdon, Vanvleet, Conley, Rozier, Lowry, Russell, all make between 20-30 million dollars per season. Brunson belongs in the conversation with those guys.

Knicks need to stop getting mid tier players and just suck with young talent. RJ is nice but with everything else they are currently a black hole that can maybe make it past the first round if they sign some FAs. Unless they go young and bad they'll never rebuild.

He will get paid faster than first rounders in his draft class and good for him.

I don’t think he will be a lead guy or difference maker for the knicks but they are at least doing something to try and get out of their current rut.

I like Brunson.

Solid 3rd option on a championship team.

Problem is the Knicks don't have a 1st option, or a 2nd option.

He would be a solid addition but the Knicks would be better off giving Quickley the reigns at point guard in an experimental season and live with the results.

Only pg knicks got is rose and he is not that good anymore. Ofc brunson is gonna get them some extra wins and probably evolve the players. But 25m? I dont know, I kinda hesitates as mavs now wven we drafted hardy

And Brunson as a 2nd option is a recipe for disaster and mediocrity, unless you have a generational superstar in Luka Doncic....wtf do the Knicks have, nothing even close to that

WTF are the Knicks thinking. Brunson isn't taking them anywhere. They traded two lottery picks away future picks that may never materialize.

Nothing like trading away picks to drop one horrible contract to sign someone else to another

That will be one of the biggest mistake in a long long history of mistakes by the Knicks. He's a solid number three option on a very good team. He's a really poor number one option.

Classic knickz move.

Knicks preparing to make a mistake

Easy explanation for what the knicks do, they think their fans are dumb and will support them and get excited by just making the playoffs. No real shot or plan to contend, just make the playoffs and keep the profits coming in.

I could see this being in addition to trying to make a trade for someone.

They have a lot of middle of the road pieces and a nice haul of picks now that can be used.

Brunson + resigning Robinson + Upper Tier Trade

Good offseason for the Knicks

The Knicks doubling down on mediocrity. A core of Randle / Fournier / Brunson / Robinson is pretty bad.

What they need to do is build around Barrett and see what Toppin / Grimes / Quickley have to offer. The rest is expendable.

The Knicks have a long, established history of throwing huge contacts at mediocre or above average players then ultimately having to finding ways of getting out of those overpaid contracts. Brunson's a good player but he's being pursued by an organization that has a well deserved reputation of handing out horrifically bad contracts. I don't blame anyone, especially Knicks fans, for being critical of their choices or evaluation of what constitutes a good contact.

I put the odds of this being the case and knicks become contenders as a results at near 0%.

Brunson is cool but I’m also looking at Simons from Portland and Sexton from Cleveland.

I’m trying to get a job at CAA. I think the Knicks will pay me next.

Lol Knicks. What else needs to be said

The knicks don’t deserve cap space. They just do stupid stuff like this.

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

I am a fan of Brunson but no way in hell if I was any team would I pay him $25M plus per years.He's and above average starter but not and all star level talent and on a true championship level team is ideally your 3rd or 4th option much like how Andrew Wiggins turned out for the Warriors.

Obviously Knicks would have to make other moves because have your top three being Barrett/Randle/Brunson isn't going to get you anywhere in the EAST and ceiling is a bottom end 7th or 8th seed in the EAST.

Knicks badly needa #1 option and true superstar which they don't have on their current roster or if they bring in Brunson.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing regarding Brunson

All I needed was the eye test.

Ball was never good.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2019300&p=86459289&hilit=brunson#p86459289

These are PG's I think we should look into:

Jalen Brunson - we know the connection to Thibs via his dad, but he's also never starting there with Luka in front of it. I would consider trading a future first for him.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2019300&p=86464278&hilit=brunson#p86464278

I'm all in on Jalen Brunson.

CAA and represented by Leon's son.

Get him to NY.

No? Lol.

Howard Eisley was a mediocre inefficient random journeyman backup PG before he came to NY. I don't think anyone had expectations of him being anything.

This kid shoots 50% from the field as a guard and already plays 25-30 mpg to begin with. He is a major piece for the Mavericks already.

I think he can be a very very good player for a long time. We need that type of efficient player who actually understands the game of basketball instead of low IQ chucking clowns. We haven't had a player with his mindset and skill in a long time.

Nobody thinks Brunson is the savior but he certainly would be a good start towards building something. No question about it for me - I've been all in on Brunson for a couple seasons now.

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Even I didn't think Brunson would ever reach these heights, though.

Actually think I did Pretty good here. Said they needed to add, which they did. Said it was a pretty good offseason, it was.

[brackdan70]

Somebody has a sense of inadequacy and too much time on his on his hands.
I don’t recall posting in this thread, but I had the same view as everyone one else.
Obviously Brunson has shown he is worth the money and proven us all wrong.

[Loaded_Hollows]

That will be one of the biggest mistake in a long long history of mistakes by the Knicks. He's a solid number three option on a very good team. He's a really poor number one option.

Wow...as much as I dislike the Knicks....I'm actually hoping they become something again.

Nothing like trading away picks to drop one horrible contract to sign someone else to another

WTF are the Knicks thinking. Brunson isn't taking them anywhere. They traded two lottery picks away future picks that may never materialize.

[Loaded_Hollows]

Somebody has a sense of inadequacy and too much time on his on his hands.
I don’t recall posting in this thread, but I had the same view as everyone one else.
Obviously Brunson has shown he is worth the money and proven us all wrong.

No need to get defensive. Just enjoy the meal.

[Battletrigger]

Kings and Knicks battle back & forth for who's the worst franchise since 2000.

Na, i think he is smart enough to know that he is not a Luka and cant carry a franchise like Luka or other superstars over an entire season. And that the Knicks fans will tear him apart first.

Just look at Grants reputation now...

this guy is 6’1. horrible move lol

I will never pay an undersized PG who is not really a playmaker for 175m. LOL. If Brunson leaves because he wants a bigger role even though Dallas offered him more money then go, but Nico should find a way still by not letting him walk for nothing. Or else, another failure for Mark Cuban like any attempts in the free agency since Dirk.

And Donnie Nelson really brought the team into sh*it hole and Nico is trying to clean his mess.

This is not really too bad for a high quality starter but is Brunson really a good fit next to RJ? In the end, he better take it to save the Knicks from making the same offer to Kyrie.

And in 2 years they will attach a frp to get ridb of him

$25m per year for a 6th man is a steep price to pay.

He was underrated as a guy making 1.8 million backing Luka. Now he will make 25 Mil expected to be Knicks star haha. Sorry if you dont see the difference, Brunson isnt changing any franchise, he is Randle of point guards.

Lol if someone pays $25M for this scrub. He’s not someone you want if you’re forking over money he’s more of a oh he’s good this year that’s great for us surprise guy. Can’t build anything with him as a major piece.

*extremely Knicks about to pay jalen Brunson $25 million a year voice*: there’s no way a team offers Jordan poole even $20 mil a year, that’s insane

What is the fascination with Brunson? I just don't see what the hype is all about.

That is nothing new, remember when Knicks gave Joakim Noah a 4 year 72 million contract? Knicks have not been good since Ewing retired due to stupid decisions like this

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

Cmon man.

I like Brunson but you're setting yourself up for major disappointment if you expect more than a third option AT BEST.

Again, I've been advocating for acquiring Brunson for some time but if you're going to go in expecting him to be a second scorer on a team you're going to end hating the guy. Which is precisely why I don't want him to sign here. The Knicks are going all in on this guy like he's prime Kobe and the fans will be let down.

The Knicks should focus on finding their own Brunson through the draft but they don't like to build their team the right way so they'll continue to overpay free agents and family miserably.

Thats the going rate for an average starting point guard in the league though. Dinwiddie, Smart, Lonzo, Brogdon, Vanvleet, Conley, Rozier, Lowry, Russell, all make between 20-30 million dollars per season. Brunson belongs in the conversation with those guys.

Knicks need to stop getting mid tier players and just suck with young talent. RJ is nice but with everything else they are currently a black hole that can maybe make it past the first round if they sign some FAs. Unless they go young and bad they'll never rebuild.

He will get paid faster than first rounders in his draft class and good for him.

I don’t think he will be a lead guy or difference maker for the knicks but they are at least doing something to try and get out of their current rut.

I like Brunson.

Solid 3rd option on a championship team.

Problem is the Knicks don't have a 1st option, or a 2nd option.

He would be a solid addition but the Knicks would be better off giving Quickley the reigns at point guard in an experimental season and live with the results.

Only pg knicks got is rose and he is not that good anymore. Ofc brunson is gonna get them some extra wins and probably evolve the players. But 25m? I dont know, I kinda hesitates as mavs now wven we drafted hardy

And Brunson as a 2nd option is a recipe for disaster and mediocrity, unless you have a generational superstar in Luka Doncic....wtf do the Knicks have, nothing even close to that

WTF are the Knicks thinking. Brunson isn't taking them anywhere. They traded two lottery picks away future picks that may never materialize.

Nothing like trading away picks to drop one horrible contract to sign someone else to another

That will be one of the biggest mistake in a long long history of mistakes by the Knicks. He's a solid number three option on a very good team. He's a really poor number one option.

Classic knickz move.

Knicks preparing to make a mistake

Easy explanation for what the knicks do, they think their fans are dumb and will support them and get excited by just making the playoffs. No real shot or plan to contend, just make the playoffs and keep the profits coming in.

I could see this being in addition to trying to make a trade for someone.

They have a lot of middle of the road pieces and a nice haul of picks now that can be used.

Brunson + resigning Robinson + Upper Tier Trade

Good offseason for the Knicks

The Knicks doubling down on mediocrity. A core of Randle / Fournier / Brunson / Robinson is pretty bad.

What they need to do is build around Barrett and see what Toppin / Grimes / Quickley have to offer. The rest is expendable.

The Knicks have a long, established history of throwing huge contacts at mediocre or above average players then ultimately having to finding ways of getting out of those overpaid contracts. Brunson's a good player but he's being pursued by an organization that has a well deserved reputation of handing out horrifically bad contracts. I don't blame anyone, especially Knicks fans, for being critical of their choices or evaluation of what constitutes a good contact.

I put the odds of this being the case and knicks become contenders as a results at near 0%.

Brunson is cool but I’m also looking at Simons from Portland and Sexton from Cleveland.

I’m trying to get a job at CAA. I think the Knicks will pay me next.

Lol Knicks. What else needs to be said

The knicks don’t deserve cap space. They just do stupid stuff like this.

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

I am a fan of Brunson but no way in hell if I was any team would I pay him $25M plus per years.He's and above average starter but not and all star level talent and on a true championship level team is ideally your 3rd or 4th option much like how Andrew Wiggins turned out for the Warriors.

Obviously Knicks would have to make other moves because have your top three being Barrett/Randle/Brunson isn't going to get you anywhere in the EAST and ceiling is a bottom end 7th or 8th seed in the EAST.

Knicks badly needa #1 option and true superstar which they don't have on their current roster or if they bring in Brunson.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing regarding Brunson

Some people have too much free time o too few responsibilities.

[Duffman100]

Omg stop quoting the massive post lol.

I'll be honest that I didn't think Brunson was gonna be this good at all. Man he proved me wrong.

[Scalabrine]

Kings and Knicks battle back & forth for who's the worst franchise since 2000.

Na, i think he is smart enough to know that he is not a Luka and cant carry a franchise like Luka or other superstars over an entire season. And that the Knicks fans will tear him apart first.

Just look at Grants reputation now...

this guy is 6’1. horrible move lol

I will never pay an undersized PG who is not really a playmaker for 175m. LOL. If Brunson leaves because he wants a bigger role even though Dallas offered him more money then go, but Nico should find a way still by not letting him walk for nothing. Or else, another failure for Mark Cuban like any attempts in the free agency since Dirk.

And Donnie Nelson really brought the team into sh*it hole and Nico is trying to clean his mess.

This is not really too bad for a high quality starter but is Brunson really a good fit next to RJ? In the end, he better take it to save the Knicks from making the same offer to Kyrie.

And in 2 years they will attach a frp to get ridb of him

$25m per year for a 6th man is a steep price to pay.

He was underrated as a guy making 1.8 million backing Luka. Now he will make 25 Mil expected to be Knicks star haha. Sorry if you dont see the difference, Brunson isnt changing any franchise, he is Randle of point guards.

Lol if someone pays $25M for this scrub. He’s not someone you want if you’re forking over money he’s more of a oh he’s good this year that’s great for us surprise guy. Can’t build anything with him as a major piece.

*extremely Knicks about to pay jalen Brunson $25 million a year voice*: there’s no way a team offers Jordan poole even $20 mil a year, that’s insane

What is the fascination with Brunson? I just don't see what the hype is all about.

That is nothing new, remember when Knicks gave Joakim Noah a 4 year 72 million contract? Knicks have not been good since Ewing retired due to stupid decisions like this

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

Cmon man.

I like Brunson but you're setting yourself up for major disappointment if you expect more than a third option AT BEST.

Again, I've been advocating for acquiring Brunson for some time but if you're going to go in expecting him to be a second scorer on a team you're going to end hating the guy. Which is precisely why I don't want him to sign here. The Knicks are going all in on this guy like he's prime Kobe and the fans will be let down.

The Knicks should focus on finding their own Brunson through the draft but they don't like to build their team the right way so they'll continue to overpay free agents and family miserably.

Thats the going rate for an average starting point guard in the league though. Dinwiddie, Smart, Lonzo, Brogdon, Vanvleet, Conley, Rozier, Lowry, Russell, all make between 20-30 million dollars per season. Brunson belongs in the conversation with those guys.

Knicks need to stop getting mid tier players and just suck with young talent. RJ is nice but with everything else they are currently a black hole that can maybe make it past the first round if they sign some FAs. Unless they go young and bad they'll never rebuild.

He will get paid faster than first rounders in his draft class and good for him.

I don’t think he will be a lead guy or difference maker for the knicks but they are at least doing something to try and get out of their current rut.

I like Brunson.

Solid 3rd option on a championship team.

Problem is the Knicks don't have a 1st option, or a 2nd option.

He would be a solid addition but the Knicks would be better off giving Quickley the reigns at point guard in an experimental season and live with the results.

Only pg knicks got is rose and he is not that good anymore. Ofc brunson is gonna get them some extra wins and probably evolve the players. But 25m? I dont know, I kinda hesitates as mavs now wven we drafted hardy

And Brunson as a 2nd option is a recipe for disaster and mediocrity, unless you have a generational superstar in Luka Doncic....wtf do the Knicks have, nothing even close to that

WTF are the Knicks thinking. Brunson isn't taking them anywhere. They traded two lottery picks away future picks that may never materialize.

Nothing like trading away picks to drop one horrible contract to sign someone else to another

That will be one of the biggest mistake in a long long history of mistakes by the Knicks. He's a solid number three option on a very good team. He's a really poor number one option.

Classic knickz move.

Knicks preparing to make a mistake

Easy explanation for what the knicks do, they think their fans are dumb and will support them and get excited by just making the playoffs. No real shot or plan to contend, just make the playoffs and keep the profits coming in.

I could see this being in addition to trying to make a trade for someone.

They have a lot of middle of the road pieces and a nice haul of picks now that can be used.

Brunson + resigning Robinson + Upper Tier Trade

Good offseason for the Knicks

The Knicks doubling down on mediocrity. A core of Randle / Fournier / Brunson / Robinson is pretty bad.

What they need to do is build around Barrett and see what Toppin / Grimes / Quickley have to offer. The rest is expendable.

The Knicks have a long, established history of throwing huge contacts at mediocre or above average players then ultimately having to finding ways of getting out of those overpaid contracts. Brunson's a good player but he's being pursued by an organization that has a well deserved reputation of handing out horrifically bad contracts. I don't blame anyone, especially Knicks fans, for being critical of their choices or evaluation of what constitutes a good contact.

I put the odds of this being the case and knicks become contenders as a results at near 0%.

Brunson is cool but I’m also looking at Simons from Portland and Sexton from Cleveland.

I’m trying to get a job at CAA. I think the Knicks will pay me next.

Lol Knicks. What else needs to be said

The knicks don’t deserve cap space. They just do stupid stuff like this.

Brunson is pretty terrible for that much money, gonna cool a bit from his playoff high.

Paying $25 mil/year for basically a 18/4/4 non-difference maker 3rd option at best is classically the art of fake hustle Knicks style.

Players like Brunson's caliber are better found through sifting through rookie contract players.

I am a fan of Brunson but no way in hell if I was any team would I pay him $25M plus per years.He's and above average starter but not and all star level talent and on a true championship level team is ideally your 3rd or 4th option much like how Andrew Wiggins turned out for the Warriors.

Obviously Knicks would have to make other moves because have your top three being Barrett/Randle/Brunson isn't going to get you anywhere in the EAST and ceiling is a bottom end 7th or 8th seed in the EAST.

Knicks badly needa #1 option and true superstar which they don't have on their current roster or if they bring in Brunson.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing regarding Brunson

I love that you are keeping receipts here but I don't love that you lumped me in with all of those bad takes. I was saying he was worth the contract. I didn't expect him to be a Top 10 player, I don't think anyone did, but I said he was just as good as everyone else making the same type of money.