Report: Joshua Primo allegedly exposed himself to women

[bradybunch]

He's only 19.

With some serious counseling, I think he'll be okay.

Hopefully he gets another chance.

[Lunartic]

He should get waived and slapped around by a husband or two but c'mon guys

Seeing genitalia is traumatic? Is he creating even more flashers by flashing innocent people? You know people watch porn, have sexual intercourse, attend things like Mardi Gras, the beach, nude beaches, etc, who exactly is traumatized because some skinny little teenager takes out his dick?

Context matters and when/where/how all play a role so if he cornered them or did anything else to exacerbate the situation (underage, threats, etc) that definitely will change my evidence-less assessment. As of now, if a female exposed her breasts to you while you waiting to fill up your car at Citgo, would you report it? Why? Why not? How would you rate your trauma?

But yeah, he should be waived because that's still criminal and very unprofessional. I'd deport him.

Because if you are a woman and are alone with a guy and he just takes his dick out you might think you are going to get raped.

This isn’t rocket science yet we still have multiple posters here saying “I don’t see why this is so bad?” Do better.

No, that's why I clearly and specifically typed out that the context around the situation matters. but you chose to ignore that in favor of some late 2016 era catch phrase designed by HR groups "do better"

If a women is alone with a guy and he exposes himself that is different than a guy in his car with his dick out or doing it behind a glass window etc.

Obviously none of it is good however, the whole "noo matter what they get traumatized" is just strange, punching someone can traumatize them ala Draymond/Poole, did you suggest he was dealing with trauma as a result of the violence? Probably not because contextual facts matter.

Primo should definitely be cut from the team and if facts around the case allow it, he should be charged.

Like I asked, would you report a female that flashed you? why or why not?

[Chinook]

Yep. Despite the random shot at SpursTalk, there is probably a larger percentage of folks downplaying it here than on there now. Are they still making jokes about the situation? Yes -- it's still ST after all. But now that the situation is out, very few people are interested in mitigating the situation.

What Primo did was unacceptable and gross AF. I fully believe he did go through some trauma that might contribute to his behavior. That doesn't remove his responsibility for it. How exactly the Spurs and wider world came to learn about this situation is critical. It could well result in the removal of a lot of stalwart faces. Pop could end up retiring in disgrace like Paterno. I'm not at all saying that's going to happen, but I think we're well past the point of thinking things like, "I'm sure X wasn't involved -- they don't look like a criminal".

I'm glad it wasn't something more physically damaging to the victim, like many of us had worried about when the news first broke. I would agree it could have been worse. But what is was is terrible. I actually think any team would've cut him after the staffer came forward, because that's a legal issue. But the Spurs were totally right to quietly investigate before taking action, since even the accusation of this would taint a person's character. But if they confirmed what we've heard (and maybe found out stuff we don't know yet), then they needed to dump him and let the legal process play out. I think the team cares about Primo and wants to believe he's redeemable, but I also think they understand how serious it is and that that redemption can't come with them.

I want to believe that, but these situations are never that clean. I'm bracing for the upheaval to continue. Getting rid of Primo will help, but I doubt the Spurs are going to avoid the circus or condemnation.

[Lunartic]

He should get waived and slapped around by a husband or two but c'mon guys

Seeing genitalia is traumatic? Is he creating even more flashers by flashing innocent people? You know people watch porn, have sexual intercourse, attend things like Mardi Gras, the beach, nude beaches, etc, who exactly is traumatized because some skinny little teenager takes out his dick?

Context matters and when/where/how all play a role so if he cornered them or did anything else to exacerbate the situation (underage, threats, etc) that definitely will change my evidence-less assessment. As of now, if a female exposed her breasts to you while you waiting to fill up your car at Citgo, would you report it? Why? Why not? How would you rate your trauma?

But yeah, he should be waived because that's still criminal and very unprofessional. I'd deport him.

That's sexual harrasment however mild or serious you think it is. Also, as someone already said, imagine it was your daughter or mother doing her job in hotel and some guy flashed his junk to her, if she told you that would just wave it off?

Like I said, context matters and if it were my sister or whatever I'd want him punished either by myself or the law. I don't see how that is at odds with anything I've said in my post.

He's a scumbag and should have been cut from the league.

However, if some random dude jumped onto a crowded train and took out his dick, I would question how traumatic that was for most people.

The Spurs seem to have handled this the right way, they kept it in-house until they confirmed it and then dropped him despite him being a prospect, that's commendable. Sports leagues have long ignored or diminished bad actors behaviors in favor of their talents.

[Yuri Vaultin]

Dude has watched too much Brazzers

[-HB-]

I was expecting something way more serious before this report came out. Humans make stupid decisions at that age and even alot older. This doesn't warrant him being waived. Had their franchise player done this they would have just kept it under wraps and fined him or suspended for a game or two for nondisclosed reasons.

Spurs are being sued. Doubt they had a choice.

[PhilBlackson]

What’s with him & Deshaun Watson?!?

[NO-KG-AI]

Lol, celebrities at whichever obscure event are dancing around practically naked and are celebrated for it, how courageuous it is (especially if they are at least 300 pounds) and here a 19 year old boy shows a d to someone and now its a sexualt assault, talk about societal double standard in the US.

I was wondering who would be the first incel to defend this

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

That's sexual harrasment however mild or serious you think it is. Also, as someone already said, imagine it was your daughter or mother doing her job in hotel and some guy flashed his junk to her, if she told you that would just wave it off?

I'm glad he got waved but kind of a high standard compared to what we have previously seen. Billups is still coaching, rose still played, karl Malone still has a hall of famer award named after him, kidd is still coaching, Draymond is still playing, bouknight is still playing. I would be more scared for my daughter if she was raped, hit, punched, or involved with a guy passed out drunk with a gun in the car. I wonder if this is spurs just being a superior franchise and doing the right thing, or if it's just the fact there was an employee involved and had to cut bait prior to a lawsuit.

[vital_signs]

Bruh just lives Mardi Gras 24/7/365 and wanted some beads. Bout time men got into the game.

On a serious note, dude just never had his ass wooped as a child. So consider this loss of pay your beatin kid.

[shi-woo]

I've read like 30 pages of posts about this and still have no idea what this kid did lol

Like was this just a situation where he was walking around his hotel room in the nude, and opened the door when someone knocked?

Did he do what a lot of people in this thread are suggesting and cornering women and just whipping it out?

[bisme37]

I feel like I'm going to get flamed for this but this whole thing makes me sad. He is exhibiting deviant sexual behavior and straight up told us he experienced related trauma in his past. So you don't have to connect a lot of dots to understand he was most likely molested as a child and someone in his life modeled this behavior to him. And he's still pretty much a kid now.

So while I'm not excusing or making him the victim of his own behavior, I have to think he is/was the victim of something similarly awful or worse. And now we have multiple threads/pages of jokes about this whole thing and it bums me out.

[Richard4444]

1) As far as we know, he is "only" a flasher. He did not touch or rape no one. We can not jump to conclusions and accusations.

2) Obviously he needs to be punished for his actions. He was already waived and will suffer from the media exposition. He should face criminal charges and be punished by the league as well. The issue is the proportionality of his punishment. Should he be banned from the league? Should he face 1 or 2 year suspension?

3) The fact that he is under 21 years old and possibly a victim of some sort of abuse as a child can not excuse his actions. But it can be mitigating circumstances that should be taken into consideration when you have to decide the severity of his punishment.

4) Context matters. If he was alone with the victim giving signals that he could do something even worse, it really can traumatize her.
If not the same thing if they were on a date and got carried away. Or if he flashed at a party or reunion in a room full of people thinking it was a joke. Or if he was very distant from the victims. Or if he is only shown and ran away.
It is just difficult to judge with so little information about the contextualization of his behavior.

5) I do not know if waiving Primo was the right choice. Maybe the Spurs needed to think about Primo as a team asset. I still think it's possible that he avoids jail time, gets treatment, faces only a minor suspension from the league, keeps his 8M dollars from the Spurs (or a fair amount of it), and gets a new brand contract with another team.

[Blame Rasho]

At the end of the day, if this is a habit that he has done and done it for a while. He is lucky he isn’t in jail. He is 19 years old. You don’t think he has friends who are below the age of 18? We might think of him as a kid, but he really isn’t. He is a grown ass man. The spurs did what they needed to do. He needs to take accountability for whatever he did.

[-Profanity-]

Been lurking RealGM for a long time and this is easily the most disgusting thread I've ever seen in my years, really embarrassing posts in here that a lot of people should be ashamed about, even if they're just trolling. Whether you have a mother or a daughter or no women in your life at all, there is no "context" where committing a deviant sexual crime is okay or not that bad. These are things that can scar people for life, not just because of seeing someone's genitals but because it makes them feel powerless and that feeling follows them for a long time even in totally unrelated situations. In a vacuum it's okay to sit at home and type online "lol he just showed his weiner nbd", but the reality is that if you're a person doing your job and a professional athlete exposes himself to you and blocks the exit, you're now in a fight or flight moment where you know this person can stop you from doing either one. Spurs got it right here and did what football fans wanted to see the NFL do.

The Kobe/Watson cases are examples where we the fans need to push sports to do better to hold people accountable, not just say "guess it's not okay for these guys but it is these guys cuz they're stars lol", no it's actually not okay for anyone and the fans have an opportunity every time to let the orgs know that. Fan backlash has proven to be a very effective means of change when the fans actually care enough.

[Jabroni Lames]

A lot of young players get exposed on D.

[HMFFL]

Is that a waivable offense though?

Educate yourself!


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[MagicFan12345]

I do not blame the Spurs for releasing Primo, I hope Primo will get professional help

[shakes0]

I feel like I'm going to get flamed for this but this whole thing makes me sad. He is exhibiting deviant sexual behavior and straight up told us he experienced related trauma in his past. So you don't have to connect a lot of dots to understand he was most likely molested as a child and someone in his life modeled this behavior to him. And he's still pretty much a kid now.

So while I'm not excusing or making him the victim of his own behavior, I have to think he is/was the victim of something similarly awful or worse. And now we have multiple threads/pages of jokes about this whole thing and it bums me out.

Cmon dude, you’re smarter than this.

The guy straight up committed sexual assault. There’s no excuse for it. Even entertaining that he has an excuse is disrespectful to real victims. And even though you say “I’m not excusing or making him the victim of his own behavior” , that is EXACTLY what you are doing.

It’s like saying “ well Jeffrey Dahmer was abused as a kid so that’s a reason he became a serial killer”. plenty of people who got abused as kids didn’t grow up to become a serial killer or a guy who flashes his Willy at multiple women

[Knightfall]

He should get waived and slapped around by a husband or two but c'mon guys

Seeing genitalia is traumatic? Is he creating even more flashers by flashing innocent people? You know people watch porn, have sexual intercourse, attend things like Mardi Gras, the beach, nude beaches, etc, who exactly is traumatized because some skinny little teenager takes out his dick?

Context matters and when/where/how all play a role so if he cornered them or did anything else to exacerbate the situation (underage, threats, etc) that definitely will change my evidence-less assessment. As of now, if a female exposed her breasts to you while you waiting to fill up your car at Citgo, would you report it? Why? Why not? How would you rate your trauma?

But yeah, he should be waived because that's still criminal and very unprofessional. I'd deport him.

That's sexual harrasment however mild or serious you think it is. Also, as someone already said, imagine it was your daughter or mother doing her job in hotel and some guy flashed his junk to her, if she told you that would just wave it off?

Like I said, context matters and if it were my sister or whatever I'd want him punished either by myself or the law. I don't see how that is at odds with anything I've said in my post.

He's a scumbag and should have been cut from the league.

However, if some random dude jumped onto a crowded train and took out his dick, I would question how traumatic that was for most people.

The Spurs seem to have handled this the right way, they kept it in-house until they confirmed it and then dropped him despite him being a prospect, that's commendable. Sports leagues have long ignored or diminished bad actors behaviors in favor of their talents.

Ok let me try to break this down a little. Guy jumps on train, pulls out his penis, that is now in everyone's mind ever time they jump on a train and pass a certain stop etc... it's like permanently engraved to say. So yes it is a traumatic experience. Someone may find it funny, other s will not. No matter how funny or not, in most states now you'll get arrested and have to register as a sex offender and all your neighbors would think you were rape banging 8 year old kids.