So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked?

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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#161 » by DonaldSanders » Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:55 pm

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I think you're hating on your own player man. Of course he can't right now do what he used to do. Of course that does not mean he won't do close to what he was supposed to do at whatever age he is next season.

If next year's Klay was going to be a 8 out of 10, he'll now be a 7.5 out of 10. He'll never be the 9 out of 10 he was when he was 3 years younger, injury or not.



Klay is still a solid contributor for GS, no shame in realizing things are different post injuries/age. It's amazing he has come back and done what he has already. That's not hating.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#162 » by Michael Jackson » Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:10 pm

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Since they would have to take salary back, how much would they save?


They can dump him on Indiana and since they are under the cap the Warriors could also get a huge trade exception.

Probably Buddy Hields contract.

Why would Indy do that Ha Ha Ha. :crazy:

Giving up cap space for a washed Clay getting massively overpaid and gaining nothing? Buddy is better at his point, younger and cheaper. They'd have to give up Kaminga to make it even thinkable. That contract, probably still no.



There is no benefit for Indiana. Not really who Klay could be traded to honestly. Warriors have to ride out this one with Klay for sure.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#163 » by Zetsword » Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:52 am

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Zetsword wrote:He's shooting and missing more three's than ever to get out of his slump and it's not working. He needs to try get that midrange going when the three isn't happening and stop taking such difficult shots.


His 3s are up but honestly I think you have it backwards. While he could hold/pass out of 1-2 3s per game, as a Warrior fan that's the part of his game that seems fine -- he's not the same 3P shooter, but this season and last he is a little over 38% in a total of 79 games between the regular season and the playoffs. It's been his mid-range that has been bad, 42.3% from 2 this season is not good. 3-10ft 40.4%, 10-16 ft 39.2%. and 16ft-3P 42.9%. He gets run off the 3pt line and needs to pass it but he often dribbles and looks for a shot now, which was never his game.

Sane wrote:He'll get gradually better and see another improvement in his second season back. I don't get why people haven't picked this up from watching others with the same injury. Look at KD right now, he's much better than last season.


KD only had one of the two injuries Klay had, and KD has height going for him. Klay no longer can be the POA defender against strong guards. It's been tougher for Klay to get open and then get his shot off because he's a step slower, where Durant is so tall he often can just shoot over people anyway. It's part of why KD is such a cheat code.

At this point Klay needs to reduce his total shot attempts and focus on being efficient. Volume or dribbling Klay isn't good, but efficient Klay can still contribute nicely. If he cut 3-4 inefficient shots per game and started being a 13 shot per game guy instead of his current 16.6 shot pace he'd grade out a lot better.

But I do think he's still adjusting to his new reality and the desire to win and have good #s will eventually take over for him. I'm sure it bothers him that currently for this season he is under 40% in shooting (.399), he will find his new equilibrium eventually.

I'm a Dubs fan too. I agree that I don't like Klay taking too many dribbles and attempting to shoot in the midrange but I want him trying to get open in the midrange sometimes and taking the shot when his three isn't falling. Years ago he was a fantastic midrange shooter. I think it just comes down to him trying to do too much besides getting open and hitting the shot or just getting rid of it.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#164 » by Ballerhogger » Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:11 am

0-10 from 3 tonight . 10 pts … when he went in the warriors had 10+ pt lead in 4th … blew the game ..
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#165 » by Chris Porter's Hair » Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:19 am

Ballerhogger wrote:0-10 from 3 tonight . 10 pts … when he went in the warriors had 10+ pt lead in 4th … blew the game ..

So he's been on fire for weeks, but he has one bad game and you bump this? Nice...
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#166 » by floppymoose » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:47 am

The problem is if Klay isnt hot as the sun, he’s a negative. Plenty of those hot games came in losses.

The recent shooting streak just makes it a great time to trade him.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#167 » by TheLand13 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:12 am

Ballerhogger wrote:0-10 from 3 tonight . 10 pts … when he went in the warriors had 10+ pt lead in 4th … blew the game ..


That’s not even what he shot from 3. I know he shot poorly tonight but what’s the point of exaggerating?
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#168 » by jbk1234 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:00 am

The Warriors have at least two guys in Poole and DiVencheza who should be starting in front of him.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#169 » by ShazamDaShiznt » Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:52 am

Now where is that gif of him sitting happy on the bench after he fouled out? :lol:
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#170 » by sashaturiaf » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:16 pm

Warriors will never trade him long as Steph is there but if Pelinka calls and offers Westbrook and a pick for Klay you'd be lying if they didn't think long and hard about it. It works under the cap too.
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Post#171 » by Exp0sed » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:41 pm

sashaturiaf wrote:Warriors will never trade him long as Steph is there but if Pelinka calls and offers Westbrook and a pick for Klay you'd be lying if they didn't think long and hard about it. It works under the cap too.


can I get some of those shrooms too? you're tripping

why would the Dubs "think long and hard" about a 1st and WB?
what are they going to do with WB on the court? he's the anth-thesis to Kerr's system, lmfao

yes, the Warriors are struggling and likely won't repeat
if they get in the playffs they're gonna at least try to put up a fight, ya know?

Klay is homegeown as are Steph, Dray etc, they have been competing for years together

U think they would do him like that for Russel friggin' Westbrook and a pick? that's a good one :crazy:

If the Dubs ever (secretly) considered trading Klay this season (and that won't ever happen but let's play the what if game)
they would only consider it (secretly haha) if it's a move that clearly helps them contend this season
not for a future 30th pick and WB the team killer

and anyway, they won't consider moving Klay at all this season
in the offseason (and beyond) however, depending how the season plays out and how their luxury tax \ Dray \ contract situations play out - there are certainly scenarios in which Klay gets traded
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#172 » by Chris Porter's Hair » Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:41 pm

floppymoose wrote:The problem is if Klay isnt hot as the sun, he’s a negative. Plenty of those hot games came in losses.

The recent shooting streak just makes it a great time to trade him.

You're clearly on a mission, but I disagree here. In the same time period that his shooting heated up, his defense has also looked much better. Not perfect; there have still been a few times he just kinda spaced, and of course I don't love that. The play last night where Kyrie scored after getting his own rebound twice is a good example, because Klay was not blocking him out, and was just standing under the basket watching. But if his shooting is improving with time, and his defense is improving with time, and I honestly think if you just remove him from the team there's no way in hell we make any noise in the playoffs, then I'm not looking to give up on him.

Now. If you have graduated to where you want to trade him for something actually of value (not Westbrook...), I'm not entirely opposed to that if they deem that it won't cause huge amount of strife in the locker room.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#173 » by Vox Populi » Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:44 pm

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sashaturiaf wrote:Warriors will never trade him long as Steph is there but if Pelinka calls and offers Westbrook and a pick for Klay you'd be lying if they didn't think long and hard about it. It works under the cap too.


can I get some of those shrooms too? you're tripping

why would the Dubs "think long and hard" about a 1st and WB?

If Steph could pull off winning a title with Westbrook while Lebron could not even make the playoffs with Westbrook, that could be the icing and the cherry on top of the Steph vs Lebron cake. Lebron would never be able to live it down. Is Steph up for the challenge?
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#174 » by Chris Porter's Hair » Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:01 pm

Vox Populi wrote:
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sashaturiaf wrote:Warriors will never trade him long as Steph is there but if Pelinka calls and offers Westbrook and a pick for Klay you'd be lying if they didn't think long and hard about it. It works under the cap too.


can I get some of those shrooms too? you're tripping

why would the Dubs "think long and hard" about a 1st and WB?

If Steph could pull off winning a title with Westbrook while Lebron could not even make the playoffs with Westbrook, that could be the icing and the cherry on top of the Steph vs Lebron cake. Lebron would never be able to live it down. Is Steph up for the challenge?

It would also be amazing for his legacy if he won a title with a blindfold on. But he's not going to do that, either. A move isn't appealing because it is a bad idea that will "challenge" Steph/the Warriors.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#175 » by Asianiac_24 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:05 pm

They don’t have to trade him (what can they get for him now anyways), but they should definitely give more of his minutes to Poole or Donte. Ask Klay to play as the 6th man and start Poole
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#176 » by Ito » Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:14 pm

He up his fantasy points to 32-34 points in recent weeks he was down to 24 last month so he started to play better
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#177 » by mj234eva » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 pm

sashaturiaf wrote:Warriors will never trade him long as Steph is there but if Pelinka calls and offers Westbrook and a pick for Klay you'd be lying if they didn't think long and hard about it. It works under the cap too.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Nice try.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#178 » by cbosh4mvp » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:04 pm

jbk1234 wrote:The Warriors have at least two guys in Poole and DiVencheza who should be starting in front of him.


If you went just a bit further, I would have to make you my signature as you did to me. Lol.

This is a troll post of course. Right?
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#179 » by Warriors Analyst » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:05 pm

Vox Populi wrote:
Exp0sed wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:Warriors will never trade him long as Steph is there but if Pelinka calls and offers Westbrook and a pick for Klay you'd be lying if they didn't think long and hard about it. It works under the cap too.


can I get some of those shrooms too? you're tripping

why would the Dubs "think long and hard" about a 1st and WB?

If Steph could pull off winning a title with Westbrook while Lebron could not even make the playoffs with Westbrook, that could be the icing and the cherry on top of the Steph vs Lebron cake. Lebron would never be able to live it down. Is Steph up for the challenge?


Excellent point, the Warriors should make one of the stupidest possible trades just to tie their hands behind their back to make an unlikely victory more satisfying.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#180 » by cbosh4mvp » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:05 pm

sashaturiaf wrote:Warriors will never trade him long as Steph is there but if Pelinka calls and offers Westbrook and a pick for Klay you'd be lying if they didn't think long and hard about it. It works under the cap too.


Lmao. Now this is definately signature worthy. :crazy: :lol:

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