Jontay Porter betting on himself

[KembaWalker]

Crazy how it’s only the absolute scrubs that gamble and take PEDs in the NBA

[hauntedcomputer]

But absolutely- it’s so dumb to risk tens of millions to make $50k or $100k or whatever the split is. So dumb

He's 24 on a two-way contract. In no world is he on the path to tens of millions (or $100 million like that one guy said.) This IS his max contract, the poke-myself-in-the-eye parlay. In a way I can't blame him, watching those Maseratis and Rolexes flash all around and billionaire owners raking in dirty money while he has to settle for being a mere millionaire.

It is distinctly capitalist to bet on oneself.

And far from being the first of many, this is the trial run for the league to hone its PR cover-up skills.

[MrGoat]

After seeing the details it looks like he's cooked. How greedy and stupid would you have to be to do something like this. The guy is clearly not as smart as he thinks he is.

The bookies don't like losing money so betting the under on yourself is begging to get caught. And because of the size limit of bets he wasn't even making that much money. Now he's probably going to be banned for life from the NBA and might even go to jail. Minimum contracts are now over 1 million dollars. The risk/reward ratio isn't even very good on this. What a moron

Paul Hornung at least only bet the overs on himself and that's why the NFL eventually reinstated him

[magee]

I think it's more an indication of him passing along team info about his playing time. This happens more often than people think. A lot of the "late DNP" is affected by the team Spreads and O/U's and when books adjust or don't adjust accordingly, it's a tell that they have info a certain player isn't playing.

The main issue in this case is if it didn't come from someone smart enough to cover their tracks about him saying he wasn't going to play or play a full game. And if someone found out it was him leaking his pt to help a buddy out, and that spread on a Discord, Telegram or Signal group chat, then his buddy is to blame and he's gonna lose his job.

[Calvin Klein]

NBA isn't fooling me. This can't be the only time this has happened. You're not gonna scapegoat one journeyman and say case closed.

That's what they always do though

[Ayt]

They’re going to come hard on him. Could possibly be a false flag situation also to deter others from gambling.

I expect nothing less than a year suspension and he’s going to be black balled

Of course you think it is a "false flag" based on nothing.

[Memories]

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His face just screams, “HAHA yeah I called bank!…*how the **** did that bs go in? That shot just cost me over $2 mill*”

[psimanic1]

But absolutely- it’s so dumb to risk tens of millions to make $50k or $100k or whatever the split is. So dumb

He's 24 on a two-way contract. In no world is he on the path to tens of millions (or $100 million like that one guy said.) This IS his max contract, the poke-myself-in-the-eye parlay. In a way I can't blame him, watching those Maseratis and Rolexes flash all around and billionaire owners raking in dirty money while he has to settle for being a mere millionaire.

It is distinctly capitalist to bet on oneself.

And far from being the first of many, this is the trial run for the league to hone its PR cover-up skills.

his brother has enough for both of them so he doesn't have to gamble...

[hauntedcomputer]

And far from being the first of many, this is the trial run for the league to hone its PR cover-up skills.

his brother has enough for both of them so he doesn't have to gamble...[/quote]

He's big into crypto and day-trading stocks. I submit that he DOES have to gamble whether he wants to or not.

[Ayt]

How the NBA handles this will be more interesting and impactful than this props bet scheme.

Lifetime ban? I don't think there is anything complicated about it.

I'm guessing someone who never really gambles suddenly put up a huge sum of money on that awkward stat. There is so many different bets, it is really not hard to hide that you are cheating unless you are dumb.

You are guessing wrong.

[Fairview4Life]

I think it's more an indication of him passing along team info about his playing time. This happens more often than people think. A lot of the "late DNP" is affected by the team Spreads and O/U's and when books adjust or don't adjust accordingly, it's a tell that they have info a certain player isn't playing.

The main issue in this case is if it didn't come from someone smart enough to cover their tracks about him saying he wasn't going to play or play a full game. And if someone found out it was him leaking his pt to help a buddy out, and that spread on a Discord, Telegram or Signal group chat, then his buddy is to blame and he's gonna lose his job.

He pulled himself out of games twice due to “injury”.

[Ayt]

I think it's more an indication of him passing along team info about his playing time. This happens more often than people think. A lot of the "late DNP" is affected by the team Spreads and O/U's and when books adjust or don't adjust accordingly, it's a tell that they have info a certain player isn't playing.

The main issue in this case is if it didn't come from someone smart enough to cover their tracks about him saying he wasn't going to play or play a full game. And if someone found out it was him leaking his pt to help a buddy out, and that spread on a Discord, Telegram or Signal group chat, then his buddy is to blame and he's gonna lose his job.

He's blatantly guilty.

In the game on Jan. 26 against the LA Clippers, there was increased betting interest on the under for Porter props, which for the night were set at around 5.5 points, 4.5 rebounds and 1.5 assists. There was also an over/under for Porter's made 3-pointers, which was 0.5.

That evening, Porter played just four minutes before leaving the game because of what the Raptors said was an aggravation of an eye injury he had suffered four days earlier against the Memphis Grizzlies. Porter did not score against the Clippers but had three rebounds and one assist, and he did not attempt a 3, meaning the under hit on all of the props.

The next day, as part of a daily report to users on betting results, DraftKings Sportsbook stated that the under on Porter's 3-pointers was the biggest money winner for bettors of any NBA player props from games that evening.

On March 20 against the Sacramento Kings, Porter played just three minutes before exiting because of what the Raptors said was an illness and did not return. He did not score after attempting one shot and had two rebounds.

Sportsbooks had his over/unders set at around 7.5 points and 5.5 rebounds.

The next day, DraftKings Sportsbook reported in a media release that Porter's prop bets were the No. 1 moneymaker from the night in the NBA.

At least one other U.S. sportsbook detected unusual betting interest on the Porter props in the games in question. A sportsbook industry source told ESPN that multiple betting accounts attempted to bet large amounts, upward of $10,000 and $20,000, on Porter unders in the January game against the Clippers. Betting limits on NBA player props vary by sportsbook and customer but are typically around $1,000 to $2,000.

[Sofia]

Reminds me of this. An Aussie comedian Who has a knack for immitating famous voices (Billy Birmingham), but a lot of his stuff was to do with current/former cricket players and commentators. Anyway, the story behind this clip was a fictional exchange while commentating an international game between Hansie Cronje, South African cricket captain who was implicated in match-fixing and subsequently banned for life, and a former Australian captain, Mark Taylor.

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As soon as I saw Billy Biringham’s name I knew what it would be. Great “album”

[dirkdiggler4177]

How the NBA handles this will be more interesting and impactful than this props bet scheme.

Lifetime ban? I don't think there is anything complicated about it.

I'm guessing someone who never really gambles suddenly put up a huge sum of money on that awkward stat. There is so many different bets, it is really not hard to hide that you are cheating unless you are dumb.

You are guessing wrong.

Care to elaborate?

What I mean is they did not bother to bet on different 50/50 bets or big sums of money, so the alarm bells went off.

[sisibilio]

This isn't a thing that happens.

That's literally what happened in this story. The big money triggered the investigation.

But this has nothing to do with the average person betting on sports. No normal sports bettor is going to have winnings flagged or taken away, lol.

They'll resttict your account if you win too often though.

[MrGoat]

How the NBA handles this will be more interesting and impactful than this props bet scheme.

Lifetime ban? I don't think there is anything complicated about it.

I'm guessing someone who never really gambles suddenly put up a huge sum of money on that awkward stat. There is so many different bets, it is really not hard to hide that you are cheating unless you are dumb.

You are guessing wrong.

There actually is a precedent for a lifetime ban in the NBA for this. Gene Melchiorre was the #1 pick in the 1951 draft. He never played an NBA game because he got caught point shaving in college and got hit with a lifetime ban after the draft

[XTC]

But absolutely- it’s so dumb to risk tens of millions to make $50k or $100k or whatever the split is. So dumb

He's 24 on a two-way contract. In no world is he on the path to tens of millions (or $100 million like that one guy said.) This IS his max contract, the poke-myself-in-the-eye parlay. In a way I can't blame him, watching those Maseratis and Rolexes flash all around and billionaire owners raking in dirty money while he has to settle for being a mere millionaire.

It is distinctly capitalist to bet on oneself.

And far from being the first of many, this is the trial run for the league to hone its PR cover-up skills.

As a Raps fan, I think the team was interested in bringing him back. He was getting consistent bench minutes, and he showed potential and a stretch big with passing potential.

He pretty much threw away his NBA career over this.

[NCHeels2008]

Honestly, he'll probably be banned from the league.

The NBA will have no issue making an example of him.

However, it's going to be nuts when notable players get caught too. It's naive to think a ton of players aren't doing the same thing, they just have to not be so dumb about it.

I think it's both overly conspiratorial to think "a ton" of players are doing the same thing while naive to think Porter is literally the only one.

[shi-woo]

This story is horrible. Not just because it kind of has that "I told you so" feel to it after all this gambling talk in sports recently, but because of the player itself.

Jontay obviously is MPJ brother, dude who is on the current champs roster, and comes from a huge sports family. Really feel bad for the family as during the draft process it made it seem like they had that Curry type family vibe, but it seems that really wasn't the case. A lot has gone on with them, and it's sad to see, and now the entire family life is going to get brought up in the media No one wants to see that, but it's going to happen now. Feel bad for MPJ who still has to perform at the highest level now with all that going on in his personal.

I never made the connection that they were brothers while looking at boxscores, and he was playing really well in limited minutes looking at it now. He had games were he was showing all aspects of his game, passing, blocking shots, and shooting. He had a legit chance to stick around in this league, even if it was just to be a better version of what Thanasis is on the Bucks. He had a legit shot to get an NBA contract with his level of play recently.

Not a good sign for the NBA that a player chose this path and way of making money than the typical ways of working hard and fighting for your spot.

NBA and going to set a precedent here, lifetime ban. New gambling rules in the offseason or CBA.

I mentioned it before in the last thread, but gambling is cultural in so many other parts of the world, and cultures. Like someone in this thread said betting on yourself is literally the most American thing you can do. I live in UConn and i always remember how blown away I was when I turned 18 and realized it was normal for the people I worked with to go to the Casino and Strip Club after work. IT's something to this day I don't understand coming from a basic middleclass area where these things were considered destructive and nasty. There needs to be a lot of work that goes intothis other than telling guys its bad. Because they might agree with it...

[KyRo23]

Crazy how it’s only the absolute scrubs that gamble and take PEDs in the NBA

I mean it could be because they have less to lose if they’re caught. Scrubs getting paid less, gambling on games to make more money. Scrubs taking PEDs to gain advantages as they are not as good of players.

Either one of us could be right/wrong, but there could be an easy explanation to your point