Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia

[Airmiess]

Benching players in the Olympics is ridiculous. Theres no guy on that roster who is a net negative.

[Triple M]

Edward’s was awful yesterday on both sides of the ball. But if you swap Edward’s for Tatum you have 3 non shooters off the bench now. If Edward’s sucks again his minutes should go to Steph/Book/Jrue/White. Unless Tatum finds his shot, I really think Tatum needs to beat out 1 of AD or Bam to get a spot… and AD/Bam have been amazing outside of when they had to play Jokic

Calling Tatum a non shooter is a reach despite his recent slump. Curry shot poorly but completely changed that yesterday. The same thing happening is not an impossibility for Tatum, e.g. the Sixers series where he went 4 for 4 from 3 in the clutch after struggling with his shot.

Something is clearly off his with his jumper so you have treat him like a non shooter for now.

What is your definition of non shooter?

Because it would be ridiculous to call him a Steph Curry like shooter when he has a stretch of shooting 45% from 3.

He shot 37.6 from 3 last year and 37.5 for his career. That isnt a non shooter

[Roscoe Sheed]

unlikely- both are over 35 (LeBron is nearly 40)- they would wear out or perhaps even get injured. Also, it's not like the Lakers and Suns don't have talented players- AD is a top 10 NBA player and the Suns have Booker and Beal.

Tatum did not play particularly well this postseason, and especially not in the Finals. KD and Lebron both would have won with that Boston roster...

Do you believe Ray, T-Mac, Pierce, VC could 3 pete with Shaq/Kobe Lakers in place of Kobe?

Does Tatum playing 94, 93 and 100 games a factor you?

Because there is a difference between droping in LBJ and KD in the finals vs them carrying a team from day 1 training camp. KD hasnt made a deep run in the playoffs for 5 seasons and this is with various talented teams while LeBron was dealing with injuries the last time he made a deep playoff run. In the parity era we are seeing fewer teams and players consistently get deep into the playoffs.

I think the Celtics benefit from having 2 stars in around their mid 20s the last few years. They are better suited to maintaining their games into 90 to 100 games over multiple seasons

exactly- also, people seem to conveniently forget that Tatum's team swept the Nets (led by Durant) a few seasons ago- many people expected the Nets to win that series

[Roscoe Sheed]

How on earth did the Celtics win the championship if Tatum is as bad as many of you are saying?

He had a literal superteam around him. I mean he wasn't fmvp.

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Well people question Brown as a top 15 player?
KP was injured most playoffs
Seems like Celtic fans think Tatum is a top 10 player and non Celtics fans have him a tier below.

The Celtics 3 to 5 is Jrue, White and Al Horford and while they are stars in their roles i dont think star role players equates to super team. Usually superteam refers to having multiple top 5, 10 or all nba players.

It's weird to say the Celtics are superteam but downplay their star players

Quite true- I actually thought they lacked depth compared to some other contenders

[Swift21]

Calling Tatum a non shooter is a reach despite his recent slump. Curry shot poorly but completely changed that yesterday. The same thing happening is not an impossibility for Tatum, e.g. the Sixers series where he went 4 for 4 from 3 in the clutch after struggling with his shot.

Something is clearly off his with his jumper so you have treat him like a non shooter for now.

What is your definition of non shooter?

Because it would be ridiculous to call him a Steph Curry like shooter when he has a stretch of shooting 45% from 3.

He shot 37.6 from 3 last year and 37.5 for his career. That isnt a non shooter

28 percent from 3 in the playoffs and it's pretty much carried over to Olympic play.

[Doranku]

What makes me scratch my head is that there was the perfect opportunity for Kerr to insert both him and Haliburton in the 3rd quarter when nobody had it going. Bron/Curry/Embiid were coming out, and the team needed some sort of spark. Instead of mixing it up, Kerr decided to send out White/Ant/KD/Bam/AD which was a disaster to say the least. Almost cost US the game.

What's the point of these guys on the roster if they're not going to ever play meaningful minutes, even when 80% of the team around them is struggling?

[Triple M]

Something is clearly off his with his jumper so you have treat him like a non shooter for now.

What is your definition of non shooter?

Because it would be ridiculous to call him a Steph Curry like shooter when he has a stretch of shooting 45% from 3.

He shot 37.6 from 3 last year and 37.5 for his career. That isnt a non shooter

28 percent from 3 in the playoffs and it's pretty much carried over to Olympic play.

If Tatum gets mins vs France and goes 3 for 3 or 4 for 4 from 3 how shocking would that be, because it wouldn't surprise me at all. In fact he has done that in the playoffs most famously while facing elimination going 4 for 4 from 3 in the clutch.

[Mephariel]

What makes me scratch my head is that there was the perfect opportunity for Kerr to insert both him and Haliburton in the 3rd quarter when nobody had it going. Bron/Curry/Embiid were coming out, and the team needed some sort of spark. Instead of mixing it up, Kerr decided to send out White/Ant/KD/Bam/Ant which was a disaster to say the least. Almost cost US the game.

What's the point of these guys on the roster if they're not going to ever play meaningful minutes, even when 80% of the team around them is struggling?

Tatum was struggling all tournament and Haliburton couldn't defend. Defense was an issue for a vast majority of the game.

[He_Got_Game]

Maybe Kerr is protecting Tatums reputation. Tatum obv came to the team mentally unprepared. He came off a long season and a horrific finals. Not only offensively he was uber trash on defense also. Like much worse than the so called cone Doncic.
They took a look at him in the preparation games and saw that right now he sucks big time. Better not expose him and just say it is for match up reasons.
Tatum might be better off that way reputation wise.
Brown showed in the Finals that he is the better player. Maybe he should have been nominated instead of Tatum all along.

I've seen some of your posts on the Celtics board. Your takes are straight up trash. You come across as a straight up hater. You do not know hoops at all. Clown.

[Crives]

Calling Tatum a non shooter is a reach despite his recent slump. Curry shot poorly but completely changed that yesterday. The same thing happening is not an impossibility for Tatum, e.g. the Sixers series where he went 4 for 4 from 3 in the clutch after struggling with his shot.

Something is clearly off his with his jumper so you have treat him like a non shooter for now.

What is your definition of non shooter?

Because it would be ridiculous to call him a Steph Curry like shooter when he has a stretch of shooting 45% from 3.

He shot 37.6 from 3 last year and 37.5 for his career. That isnt a non shooter

Has not hit a jump shot in Olympics
Reportedly shot terribly in practice (BillSimmons)
Last 3pt shot hit side of backboard
Shot poorly in the finals (jump shots not dunks)

[TheHartBreakKid]

Simple answer - Kerr is not just a self-proclaimed idiot, but an absolute moron who is so blinded by his Western conference bias that he almost cost the US the game. Of the 12 players on this team, there are 6 from each conference. The 5 players with the lowest amount of play time are all Eastern conference players. A good coach would have seen team USA winning by double digits all the way, using players not just for the conference they are in.
Hopefully we'll never have to see such a pathetic, baised head coach for team USA again.
I'm also looking forward to the regular season when Tatum goes full earth-scorching mode all over this idiot's butt.

While I'm in agreement that Kerr is in the wrong for giving him (and even Haliburton) DNPs, I think it's insane to think that he has anti Boston bias considering they have 2 players within the rotation, playing important but short minutes, which is exactly what they signed up for.
And cmon anti conference bias? The Western players are significantly more talented as a group, better basketball fits, and contain 3 all time greats that absolutely deserve the minutes they've been getting.

The DNPs is foolish to me, but realistically, even if he managed the minutes better and had everyone in the rotation like he's supposed to do as team USA's coach, 5/6 players getting the most minutes would still be from the western conference, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Bam has played one more minute than Edwards, if it weren't for that all of the bottom six players for minutes played would be from the Eastern conference - that's extremely pathetic. Every one of these players qualify as some of the best players in the game today, and every one of these players gave up their summers to participate in the Olympics. There is absolutely no reasonable explanation as to why the bottom six guys are al in the Eastern conference - ZERO.
On top of that, up until the final quarter of the last game, Curry has been the worst player on the team (just look at how many posts there have been here in the GM asking why Curry is even on the team) - and yet he has the most minutes played. Kerr is a joke. There is no reason to have a coach like this who wont' let each and every one of these amazing players get time. Hopefully this is the last Olympics that we'll have to see his pathetic face on the US bench. Get a coach who plays guys based on actual need, not based on stupid biases and preferences.
With a real coach, the US team would never have gotten down by 17 points to a team that has only one All-Star level player on it.

Embiid had a DNP against South Sudan, most likely for load management and I'm sure he's very appreciative of that.
Holiday also a DNP against Puerto Rico, but in the 4 games he has played he has played slightly less than Curry (only less minutes per game).

White has played in every game with a solid 15.8 mpg, which is more than AD. Not bad for the 12th guy on the roster, and the only player on the roster who hasn't sniffed a all star team.

Haliburton isn't getting minutes because of Holiday and White. Bam has played more than AD, despite AD being the more decorated player, who plays in the East, and is a teammate of Lebron who undoubtedly has some influence over this team.

Kerr preferring to play the arguable GOAT, a top 15 player in Durant (and his former player), and his Current player that he's won 4 rings might imply that he has some bias, but it sure as hell doesn't mean he has "Conference Bias" whatever that is. It just happens that all 3 of those players play in the East. I don't understand a logical reason why he would care about which conference a player plays in. Now, if you want to argue that no active NBA coach should be coaching team USA to avoid personal bias, I think that's a very valid argument.

Look, I already said that Tatum getting DNPs isn't cool, and the same applies to Haliburton to a lesser extent. But I don't think there is any valid argument for "Conference Bias". Oh and FYI, for the 2023 World Cup 4/6 of the top minute players were from the Eastern conference, coached by Kerr, a year ago.

[mpoo_sin]

Maybe Kerr is protecting Tatums reputation. Tatum obv came to the team mentally unprepared. He came off a long season and a horrific finals. Not only offensively he was uber trash on defense also. Like much worse than the so called cone Doncic.
They took a look at him in the preparation games and saw that right now he sucks big time. Better not expose him and just say it is for match up reasons.
Tatum might be better off that way reputation wise.
Brown showed in the Finals that he is the better player. Maybe he should have been nominated instead of Tatum all along.

I've seen some of your posts on the Celtics board. Your takes are straight up trash. You come across as a straight up hater. You do not know hoops at all. Clown.

Whatever floats your boat. I only see Boston fanboys acting like Tatum is truly the best player and should play over James or Durant.
They clearly are much better than Tatum for this team right now.

And remind me, who won Finals MVP? Brown did.

Tatum is the most decorated waterboy of all time. And it is not because of some anti Boston agenda that he doesn t play, but because right now Tatum sucks. Maybe bext year he can feast on the trash teams of the eastern conference again and again and again so you can believe that he is on the same level as the true superstars of the league.

[He_Got_Game]

Maybe Kerr is protecting Tatums reputation. Tatum obv came to the team mentally unprepared. He came off a long season and a horrific finals. Not only offensively he was uber trash on defense also. Like much worse than the so called cone Doncic.
They took a look at him in the preparation games and saw that right now he sucks big time. Better not expose him and just say it is for match up reasons.
Tatum might be better off that way reputation wise.
Brown showed in the Finals that he is the better player. Maybe he should have been nominated instead of Tatum all along.

I've seen some of your posts on the Celtics board. Your takes are straight up trash. You come across as a straight up hater. You do not know hoops at all. Clown.

Whatever floats your boat. I only see Boston fanboys acting like Tatum is truly the best player and should play over James or Durant.
They clearly are much better than Tatum for this team right now.

And remind me, who won Finals MVP? Brown did.

Tatum is the most decorated waterboy of all time. And it is not because of some anti Boston agenda that he doesn t play, but because right now Tatum sucks. Maybe bext year he can feast on the trash teams of the eastern conference again and again and again so you can believe that he is on the same level as the true superstars of the league.

Finals MVP? I have no problem with JB getting it. He put Luka in jail and took his cookies at half court multiple times not to mention dunking on their team in traffic and hitting daggers in people's faces, so he earned that. That's not a slight against Tatum that's just praise for Brown.

If Tatum sucks wouldn't his stats indicate that? Last time I checked he averaged 27 this past year and 30 before that. How does a guy average 27 and 30 points if they are trash?

[amcoolio]

It is totally plausible that Tatum agreed to join the Olympic team but only wanted to play in case of emergency because of a long NBA season. Still gets to vacation in Paris and gets a gold (or silver) medal.

Now Haliburton for sure wants to play, but his defense is too bad to get on the court

[Sweet Serenity]

Maybe Kerr is protecting Tatums reputation. Tatum obv came to the team mentally unprepared. He came off a long season and a horrific finals. Not only offensively he was uber trash on defense also. Like much worse than the so called cone Doncic.
They took a look at him in the preparation games and saw that right now he sucks big time. Better not expose him and just say it is for match up reasons.
Tatum might be better off that way reputation wise.
Brown showed in the Finals that he is the better player. Maybe he should have been nominated instead of Tatum all along.

I've seen some of your posts on the Celtics board. Your takes are straight up trash. You come across as a straight up hater. You do not know hoops at all. Clown.

Whatever floats your boat. I only see Boston fanboys acting like Tatum is truly the best player and should play over James or Durant.
They clearly are much better than Tatum for this team right now.

And remind me, who won Finals MVP? Brown did.

Tatum is the most decorated waterboy of all time. And it is not because of some anti Boston agenda that he doesn t play, but because right now Tatum sucks. Maybe bext year he can feast on the trash teams of the eastern conference again and again and again so you can believe that he is on the same level as the true superstars of the league.

You’re trying way too hard lol

[ReasonablySober]

The only forward who played were KD and LeBron.

If Kerr's only gonna play two forwards, news flash, those are the two who should be playing.

[Joshyjess]

Some of these arguments are just downright hilarious. Many of you are saying that the only reason Tatum won a ring this year is because he was on a stacked or Super team, and so therefore he really doesn't deserve minutes on the Olympic Team. OK, then question, who was the leading scorer in the playoffs on this super team? I'll give you a hint - it was Tatum. Who had the most assists in the playoffs on this Super Team? - Again, another hint - it was Tatum. Who had the most rebounds in the playoffs on this Super Team. - Yet another hint - it was Tatum.
So, this Super stacked team that just waltzed through the playoffs was led by Tatum who had the most points / assists and rebounds for his team, and the scary part is that he really didn't play up to his best level (which is why he didn't win the MVP in spite of leading in all the major categories). This is the guy that so many of you are calling just OK, or not deserving of minutes in the Olympics????

[mpoo_sin]

I've seen some of your posts on the Celtics board. Your takes are straight up trash. You come across as a straight up hater. You do not know hoops at all. Clown.

Whatever floats your boat. I only see Boston fanboys acting like Tatum is truly the best player and should play over James or Durant.
They clearly are much better than Tatum for this team right now.

And remind me, who won Finals MVP? Brown did.

Tatum is the most decorated waterboy of all time. And it is not because of some anti Boston agenda that he doesn t play, but because right now Tatum sucks. Maybe bext year he can feast on the trash teams of the eastern conference again and again and again so you can believe that he is on the same level as the true superstars of the league.

Finals MVP? I have no problem with JB getting it. He put Luka in jail and took his cookies at half court multiple times not to mention dunking on their team in traffic and hitting daggers in people's faces, so he earned that. That's not a slight against Tatum that's just praise for Brown.

If Tatum sucks wouldn't his stats indicate that? Last time I checked he averaged 27 this past year and 30 before that. How does a guy average 27 and 30 points if they are trash?

Again: he obviously plays horrible right now. I already speculated that he is not mentally ready after a long and succesful season.

And also again: i truly think that Tatum is a level below the true superstars of the league. And i am not alone with that take. Most credible analysts and podcaster see him not on the level of the best players in the league.

Try to discredit my opinion by calling me a hater, i m not offended by that.

*edit
I didn t say he is a trash player all the time. I said that he is trash right now!
He is a top20/top15 player in the league if he plays to his capabilities. That is great but not superstar-great.

[RB34]

Spoiler:

Maybe Kerr is protecting Tatums reputation. Tatum obv came to the team mentally unprepared. He came off a long season and a horrific finals. Not only offensively he was uber trash on defense also. Like much worse than the so called cone Doncic.
They took a look at him in the preparation games and saw that right now he sucks big time. Better not expose him and just say it is for match up reasons.
Tatum might be better off that way reputation wise.
Brown showed in the Finals that he is the better player. Maybe he should have been nominated instead of Tatum all along.

Posts like this is why people should have a licence to breed.

Personal Attacks.

[mpoo_sin]

Maybe Kerr is protecting Tatums reputation. Tatum obv came to the team mentally unprepared. He came off a long season and a horrific finals. Not only offensively he was uber trash on defense also. Like much worse than the so called cone Doncic.
They took a look at him in the preparation games and saw that right now he sucks big time. Better not expose him and just say it is for match up reasons.
Tatum might be better off that way reputation wise.
Brown showed in the Finals that he is the better player. Maybe he should have been nominated instead of Tatum all along.

Posts like this is why people should have a licence to breed.

Wow..thank you for sharing that...seems like you have interesting views.
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