Kings trade Fox to Spurs, get LaVine

[Scalabrine]

Rockets seem like the most obvious fit here. He'd fit perfectly there and they have the pieces to both match salary and give the Kings some re-tooling, win now pieces.

Is Fox the piece you wanna cash in your pieces for?


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If it costed all the pieces, no. But let's look at their pieces:

1. Amen Thompson - 22 years old
2. Reed Sheppard - 20yo
3. Tari Eason - 23yo
4. Jabari Smith - 21yo
5. Cam Whitmore - 20yo

They obviously have Jalen Green and Alpy Sengun who both signed extensions this training camp thus can't really be traded this season.

They also have 10 FRP's to pick from and 6SRP's to sweaten any deal.

They have varying levels of veterans on tradable contracts in Brooks, VanVleet*, Adams*, Jeff Green*, Landale, Tate*. * = expiring.

I would imagine that giving up Thompson, Whitemore and Van Vleet would get the job done no picks needed. Then they'd still have All their picks and other young guys to trade for one more piece.

[vincecarter4pres]

Feel like the Kings are going to wind up in Vegas or Seattle sooner rather then later.

[TacoLord]

I"m not too interested in Fox, but if Sabonis is for sale... well that would really be something to look at...

[magee]

Amen Thompson is untouchable in any deal. Houston has found their future perennial All-NBA player. I don't think they'd give up on Reed Sheppard just yet. Cam Whitmore, FVV and someone like Jock Landale would do it. This would be contingent on the Rockets feeling like Fox moves the needle enough compared to FVV.

[Chuck Everett]

Feel like the Kings are going to wind up in Vegas or Seattle sooner rather then later.

Why? Their arena is new and their owner isn't poor by NBA standards.

[DaPessimist]

I don't think Fox is guy I'd want to give up a lot of assets for, even if he's willing to sign an extension. Fox is a guy I trade for if I can get a good deal on him. Paying a premium price for a borderline Star is not the mistake you want to make under the new CBA.

[davidv2001]

I get it, but Fox only gets a Supermax extension by making All-NBA. He would have to play really well to earn it.

Teams in markets like Sacramento don’t have the same resources that teams like the Knicks and Lakers do. Before the 2022-2023 season, the Kings last made the playoffs in the 2005-2006 season. That’s 17 years of walking in the wilderness hoping for lottery luck. Also, with the new draft rules, Sacramento wouldn’t even have great odds of getting a top-4 pick. The Detroit Pistons have recently experienced bad lottery luck first hand with the new odds.

If a team blows Sacramento away or Fox tells their front office he wants out, then sure I can see them trading him. Otherwise, I expect them to hold on to him as long as possible.

Edit: It appears Fox has told the Kings front office he doesn’t plan on staying past the 2026 season.

That being said, teams like OKC, Memphis, San Antonio, Orlando show that if you build your team shrewdly, you still have a chance to be competitive, even in a small market.

Making smart cap decisions is even more important for small markets.

That’s true. As long as Fox isn’t on a Supermax contract, I don’t see his contract as an issue moving forward. He’s an all-star caliber point guard and worth building around.

[ConSarnit]

Unlike the Butler situation, Kings hold all the leverage here. They're only 2-games back of the 6-seed in the West, and Fox isn't a free agent until 2026. All this just illustrates that they have zero urgency to get a deal done before the deadline unless the Spurs (or someone else) offers them an absolute king's (hehe) ransom that they couldn't refuse. Which is ultimately why I don't see a trade happening until the offseason at the very earliest. Spurs fans can dream about getting him cheap (Vassell and picks ain't it), but you're probably gonna have to keep dreaming then.

If I’m the Spurs I’m just playing the waiting game. They aren’t going anywhere even if they add Fox this season. They stand to have max cap space in 2026. If Fox really wants to be there he can come as a free agent. Obviously this is risky but Fox, at least imo, is not the type of player you give a ton up for just for the rights to have to pay him 30% of the cap. I’m not sure if Fox has positive value at 30% of the cap so why am I paying through the nose in a trade for that “honor”.

[reamily]

Its not rocking the boat for houston its jusy that fox doent fit on amen and jalen strengths..as all of them.like to slash and really streaky shooters unlike fvv

[RIPskaterdude]

Feel like the Kings are going to wind up in Vegas or Seattle sooner rather then later.

They have a new stadium but ok

[doogie_hauser]

If I am Houston no way am I splitting up any of the Terror Twins for anyone in the league but Wemby (which will never happen)

Reckon this story has clickbair/media driven by the NBA narrative because the Superbowl is 10 or so days away

No way is Fox traded until the end of the season (and even i have my doubts it will happen then)

This just strikes me as an Adam Silver manufactured drama, prove me wrong folks

[pipfan]

Fox/Lyles/Hueter for FVV/Sheppard/Whitmore, plus 2 of Hou's pick?
Not sure if this gets Sac out of the tax?

[RIPskaterdude]

Fox/Lyles/Hueter for FVV/Sheppard/Whitmore, plus 2 of Hou's pick?
Not sure if this gets Sac out of the tax?

Kings laugh and hang up the phone. The best player back is FVV? No way

[Richard4444]

Rockets seem like the most obvious fit here. He'd fit perfectly there and they have the pieces to both match salary and give the Kings some re-tooling, win now pieces.

Is Fox the piece you wanna cash in your pieces for?


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If it costed all the pieces, no. But let's look at their pieces:

1. Amen Thompson - 22 years old
2. Reed Sheppard - 20yo
3. Tari Eason - 23yo
4. Jabari Smith - 21yo
5. Cam Whitmore - 20yo

They obviously have Jalen Green and Alpy Sengun who both signed extensions this training camp thus can't really be traded this season.

They also have 10 FRP's to pick from and 6SRP's to sweaten any deal.

They have varying levels of veterans on tradable contracts in Brooks, VanVleet*, Adams*, Jeff Green*, Landale, Tate*. * = expiring.

I would imagine that giving up Thompson, Whitemore and Van Vleet would get the job done no picks needed. Then they'd still have All their picks and other young guys to trade for one more piece.

Amen may have the higher potential on the roster. It would be a mistake to trade him for Fox. I would not be surprised if he starts to be ranked higher than Fox after 2 or 3 seasons.

[SNPA]

Is Fox the piece you wanna cash in your pieces for?


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If it costed all the pieces, no. But let's look at their pieces:

1. Amen Thompson - 22 years old
2. Reed Sheppard - 20yo
3. Tari Eason - 23yo
4. Jabari Smith - 21yo
5. Cam Whitmore - 20yo

They obviously have Jalen Green and Alpy Sengun who both signed extensions this training camp thus can't really be traded this season.

They also have 10 FRP's to pick from and 6SRP's to sweaten any deal.

They have varying levels of veterans on tradable contracts in Brooks, VanVleet*, Adams*, Jeff Green*, Landale, Tate*. * = expiring.

I would imagine that giving up Thompson, Whitemore and Van Vleet would get the job done no picks needed. Then they'd still have All their picks and other young guys to trade for one more piece.

Amen may have the higher potential on the roster. It would be a mistake to trade him for Fox.

Smith/Whitmore/FVV/2 firsts (decent quality) for Fox/Huerter

[reamily]

Really the only reasonable trade for houston is green during the offseason and the delay on development of sheppard makes this trade even more unfavirable for them..

So really funny on how people view houston as potential destination..

[shi-woo]

I don't see this happening till the offseason. People are hating on Fox, but he's still a top PG in the league, and is a solid scorer in the clutch and 4th quarter. He's averaged 25/4/6 since 2021, and has put the Kings in the mix for the first time since Webber.

People think Fred and some picks is going to get it done are delusional. Same with packages centered around Vessel.

Rockets would need to throw in Reed and Tari just to get the Kings to pick up the phone. SAS would need to give up Castle. HOU can do it, but lets be honest, they already have 2 guys signed to Max deals, and neither looks like their best prospect. Thompson is going to break out and get a max, right around the time Fox would sign him.

The Math just doesn't work for HOU unless they give the godfather offer, but that isn't worth it when the team is still too young. Thompson is not getting traded nor are Green and Sengun.

SAS just doesn't have enough pieces to compete yet. They are atleast one year away from actually thinking about this type of move. There just isn't enough talent on the roster, let alone after this trade.

Honestly, I hate to say it, but MIA looks to be in a solid spot to trade for Fox, and it makes a ton of sense for both sides. The only caveat would be what happens with a Butler trade, but sending Fox to MIA to reunite with KT standouts Herro and Bam seems nice.

Heat have the ability to give their godfather offer and still be a solid contender. They can easily match salaries this year with Rozier and Duncan, and can throw in JJJ, Jovic, and Ware are prospects as well as picks. Depending on what they get in return for Butler that could be a solid get, as they would still have a nice rotation.

Fox, Huerter, Dougy Buckets for Terry, Duncan, JJJ, Ware, Jovic, 2 picks seems like a trade both teams would be happy with. MIA fans lose their mind because they don't realize JJJ is just a bench player, and Jovic not a huge loss.

Kings go into next year with a young core of Ware, Murray, Jovic, JJJ, and Carter

MIA gets a big 3 of Bam, Herro, and Fox, and get to surround them with solid role players. Huerter would be great in MIA, and they would still have Love, HH, Dru, and whatever they get in the Butler trade. MIA does well finding guys for cheap, they just need to get that guy.

[LarsV8]

Imo no team should make a " godfather" offer.

[NCHeels2008]

Something around Jabari, FVV and picks makes sense to me.

Eason and Amen need more minutes. Rockets have looked good with Jabari out. I’d roll the dice

Jabari would be the perfect big next to Sabonis

[Black Jack]

Rockets seem like the most obvious fit here. He'd fit perfectly there and they have the pieces to both match salary and give the Kings some re-tooling, win now pieces.

Is Fox the piece you wanna cash in your pieces for?


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If it costed all the pieces, no. But let's look at their pieces:

1. Amen Thompson - 22 years old
2. Reed Sheppard - 20yo
3. Tari Eason - 23yo
4. Jabari Smith - 21yo
5. Cam Whitmore - 20yo

They obviously have Jalen Green and Alpy Sengun who both signed extensions this training camp thus can't really be traded this season.

They also have 10 FRP's to pick from and 6SRP's to sweaten any deal.

They have varying levels of veterans on tradable contracts in Brooks, VanVleet*, Adams*, Jeff Green*, Landale, Tate*. * = expiring.

I would imagine that giving up Thompson, Whitemore and Van Vleet would get the job done no picks needed. Then they'd still have All their picks and other young guys to trade for one more piece.

Houston is NOT trading Thompson. He looks like the star player they are looking for.

Cap and trade rules aside, I would believe them trading Sengun, Green, etc. but not Amen. Amen.