Who was at fault on this Butler injury?

[picc]

I’ve watched 100 angles of this and have yet to see Draymond pushing him into Butler. Can someone explain where he pushed him?

[Ainosterhaspie]

I’ve watched 100 angles of this and have yet to see Draymond pushing him into Butler. Can someone explain where he pushed him?

Try putting on hater goggles.

[Ayt]

Copy pasted from another board. Watched the Amen/Butler incident a few times now. Don't think it's completely intentional or accidental. It looks like it Amen wasn't pushed, he moved his body into Butler to add physicality into the play. More reckless than anything. It fits into the gritty style of play of between the teams so I'd chalk it up to an accident.

It was an accident, but it is still 100% Thompson's fault.

Thompson got reckless trying to grab his own rebound. He tried to squeeze his upper body between 2 rebounders (Adams and Draymond), but Thompson had NO lower body under himself, his feet, he had no footing.

So now you have Thompson's upper body in one place, and his feet are behind him. When Thompson tries to bring his feet up to brace himself, he can't, because he trips on Draymond's legs, and he has no footing to withstand a small hip push by Adams.

So now Thompson becomes a liability falling to the ground, and a danger injury to anyone else in the paint. Even if Jimmy wasn't there, Thompson is falling to the ground anyway, and then what if another player jumps for the board and lands ON a body part of Thompson? Maybe Draymond or Adams lands on his leg and gets an ankle injury.


Basically, Thompson played reckless and caused this injury. Let's use an analogy of driving a vehicle, a car. If you go out and drive a car recklessly and accidentally cause an accident... you didn't do it on purpose, but you DID drive recklessly and it's your fault.

LMAO. How is it reckless to go for an offensive rebound? If anything, it should have been a loose ball foul on Draymond since Amen had beaten him to the spot.

[og15]

Very surprised at he amount of Draymond votes, I guess it's just a knee jerk, Draymond is annoying and reckless, so it must be him.

This just looks like a lot of people htiting into each other and an unfortunate outcome.

[durden_tyler]

No one’s fault. **** happens, in basketball, or in life.


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[inquisitive]

Dre of course. Pushing Amen was a no no and resulted in Butler getting hurt.

[aemannarwal]

Incidental contact is part of the sport. Out of the million incidental contacts, a few are bound to cause major injuries.

Players nowadays are not taught to protect themselves and their opponents but to go all out.

What happened with klay, Ja and Butler is bound to happen more often as the physicality of the game is increasing.

You can blame anyone you want but neither Danny green, amen Thompson or dort wanted to injure any one purposely.

[Nate505]

Just bad luck. Not everything is some dirty play.

[Edrees]

I’ve watched 100 angles of this and have yet to see Draymond pushing him into Butler. Can someone explain where he pushed him?

He didn't. Draymond lost control of the box out, and at the same moment, Stephen Adams accidently pushes Thompson. Those 2 combined at the exact same moment caused Thompson to got lunged forward.

Just total accident and bad luck.

Draymond WOULD push someone, but only AWAY from the basket to prevent him from getting a rebound. Why would draymond help Amen get closer to butler, That makes no sense. Draymond isn't stupid.

[Sane]

Thompson got reckless trying to grab his own rebound. He tried to squeeze his upper body between 2 rebounders (Adams and Draymond), but Thompson had NO lower body under himself, his feet, he had no footing.

Why are you making things up? You can just not say anything if you don't like something.

There's a a foot and a half between Draymond and Adams. They're not shoulder to shoulder.

What is holding Thompson back from getting between them?

It's Draymond's arm - illegally holding Amen back from moving forward. Draymond is not in a boxing out position. The very same arm that when dropped causes Amen to move forward. The arm is extended to the side and behind Draymond. The ankle is also extended to the side and behind Draymond.

If Draymond was just boxing out here, he would be attempting to get closer to Steven Adams or Amen Thompson. He is not doing that. He is out of position and as he often does, he is trying to see if he can get away with holding someone back. Once Jimmy pretty much secures the rebound, he drops his arm and Amen obviously falls forward.

[Zvaart]

Very surprised at he amount of Draymond votes, I guess it's just a knee jerk, Draymond is annoying and reckless, so it must be him.

This just looks like a lot of people htiting into each other and an unfortunate outcome.

I eould say i agree with you, but apparently my opinion is not valid as a dubs fan.

This is why i tend to avoid GB. Too much hate, too little thinking.

[-Luke-]

I’ve watched 100 angles of this and have yet to see Draymond pushing him into Butler. Can someone explain where he pushed him?

There is no push. Draymond has his arm in front of Amen's body and boxes him out, then he lowers his arm (which can look like a push at first sight, bit it clearly wasn't in the replay). At the same time as Draymond lowers his arm, the mountain of a man that is Adams, who is boxing Podziemski out, bumps into Amen with his hip or quad and it looks like Amen just trips because Adams bumps into him and Draymond no longer holds him back.

Normal play and nobodys fault.

[Haldi]

Very surprised at he amount of Draymond votes, I guess it's just a knee jerk, Draymond is annoying and reckless, so it must be him.

This just looks like a lot of people htiting into each other and an unfortunate outcome.

I can admit im one of the votes. And its very simple. I’ve seen more than enough Draymond games in a career to know that wherever he is, stuff like this just always seems to happen. Its amazing to me how often guys get hurt around guys like Draymond, or Rodman, or Dilon Brooks and all these other wonderful names. But its all just coincidence right.

These types of reckless overachievers have always been the worse part of basketball (for me), it is zero surprise to me that you sprinkle in another overachiever to that in Thompson and you get something like this. My vote would’ve been better as a split vote I guess. I love that the NBA has way less ‘hockey goon’ type players than it used to, but I looooong for the days where they all extinct. I don’t like them in hockey either but can tolerate it more there. Its just terrible playing in basketball imo, but lots of fans love to cheer these types for some reason… meh

[Ice Man]

Dre of course. Pushing Amen was a no no and resulted in Butler getting hurt.

Since when is pushing to get a rebound a foul in the NBA? I mean, I dunno, maybe once upon a time, but referees sure as heck don't whistle such maneuvers in the 2025 playoffs. Draymond's conduct was legit; that's how the game is played.