2nd Round: Boston vs. Cleveland - Series BOS leads (2-0)

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Who wins this 2nd round series?

Boston in 4
6
5%
Boston in 5
20
17%
Boston in 6
39
33%
Boston in 7
10
9%
Cleveland in 4
2
2%
Cleveland in 5
4
3%
Cleveland in 6
22
19%
Cleveland in 7
14
12%
 
Total votes: 117

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Post#161 » by triplet1984 » Tue May 6, 2008 6:41 pm

This will be a nice referendum on Mike Brown as coach. If ever there is a series where he has to change up his style to be more athletic and running-energy based game, its this one. It's been proven to be effective. Run with it Brown, run.
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Post#162 » by Curmudgeon » Tue May 6, 2008 6:47 pm

Cleveland's biggest asset in this series is (of course) LeBron James. But Cleveland's second biggest asset is Doc Rivers, who will once again screw up his rotations and fail to make necessary adjustments from game to game.
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Post#163 » by C'mon Cavs » Tue May 6, 2008 6:47 pm

Da-Met wrote:This will be a nice referendum on Mike Brown as coach. If ever there is a series where he has to change up his style to be more athletic and running-energy based game, its this one. It's been proven to be effective. Run with it Brown, run.


Hahahahah...Mike Brown make adjustments...you're hilarious.

How are the Cavs supposed to run anyway? Who's gonna lead the fastbreak? Who's gonna finish?

The only guy on the Cavs who can effectively do both is the same guy, LeBron James.

The Cavs need to upgade this team big time. The Cavs need another ball handler or two (aka a real point guard) and some athletes.

Get a god dam big man who can finish an alley-oop. Get someone else who can actually dunk the ball in transition. This team is woefully unathletic.

Thats why you cant take much out of what the Hawks did. They actually have a bunch of athletes (Josh Smith, Childress, Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams) as opposed to the Cavs one (LeBron).
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Post#164 » by Manocad » Tue May 6, 2008 7:10 pm

Beantown in 6. Too many weapons for the Cavs to overcome.
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Post#165 » by nightstarstolen » Tue May 6, 2008 7:10 pm

This thread is a joke.

Celtics vs Cavs

Pierce =< Lebron (Pierce is the better defender)
Perk <<< Big Z
Rond/Cassell/House>= West/Boobie
Ray Allen >>> Wally (Wally plays turn style defense)
KG>>> Wallace

Celtics Bench - Powe/Tony A/House/Posey >>>> Does anybody know any of the players on Clevland bench?? Boobie?

Celtics win in 4 out of 6 match ups.

Celtics Defense >>> Cleveland Defense.

ps. - Atlanta was an aberation not the rule. Most likely Celtics will dismantle Clevland more easy than Atlanta.
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Post#166 » by C'mon Cavs » Tue May 6, 2008 7:22 pm

LMAO...what the hell does Pierce =< LeBron mean??

I think you meant Pierce<<<<<<LeBron.
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Post#167 » by Feed Your Head » Tue May 6, 2008 7:28 pm

nightstarstolen wrote:Pierce =< Lebron (Pierce is the better defender)
Ray Allen >>> Wally (Wally plays turn style defense)


Im as big of a Pierce fan as there is but if Ray>>>Wally then Lebron>>>PP.

Pierce may be a better on defense but Lebron does every single other things better.
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Post#168 » by C'mon Cavs » Tue May 6, 2008 7:40 pm

Big_Matt34 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Im as big of a Pierce fan as there is but if Ray>>>Wally then Lebron>>>PP.

Pierce may be a better on defense but Lebron does every single other things better.


I doubt he's even better on defense.

LeBron is much improved on defense. He never gives up on plays and you will see him swat quite a few shots in transition in this series (mostly Rondo, but Pierce might get one blocked).

I doubt we'll even get to see if Pierce is a better defender than LeBron in this series, because if Boston doesnt double LeBron, theyre insane.

If Boston plays Pierce on LeBron straight up, one on one, I can say with confidence that the Cavs will win. If they double and shift their entire defense to him (like they did in the regular season), then players like Gibson, West and Wally will decide if the Cavs can hang with Boston.

I'm hoping Cavs in 6, but Boston in 7 seems more realistic because they have three legit great players.
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Post#169 » by CzBoobie » Tue May 6, 2008 7:42 pm

nightstarstolen wrote:This post is a joke.

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Post#170 » by TommyPoints » Tue May 6, 2008 7:43 pm

Lebron is definitely better than Pierce is or has ever been, but Pierce isn't as far off as people sometimes make it sound. When he is good he is really good.
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Post#171 » by Kosar86 » Tue May 6, 2008 7:46 pm

nightstarstolen wrote:This thread is a joke.

Celtics vs Cavs

Pierce =< Lebron (Pierce is the better defender)
Perk <<< Big Z
Rond/Cassell/House>= West/Boobie
Ray Allen >>> Wally (Wally plays turn style defense)
KG>>> Wallace

Celtics Bench - Powe/Tony A/House/Posey >>>> Does anybody know any of the players on Clevland bench?? Boobie?

Celtics win in 4 out of 6 match ups.

Celtics Defense >>> Cleveland Defense.

ps. - Atlanta was an aberation not the rule. Most likely Celtics will dismantle Clevland more easy than Atlanta.


lol! What would this post look like last round?

A few notes:

Do I see a 7 & 6 center get >>> over a 14 & 9 center?

And, uh, you overrate pierce a little (completely) bit.

Allen & Pierce = 37 - 9 - 8; Lebron by himself = 30 - 8 - 7


Rondo and Cassel are avg 17ppg in the playoffs; Boobie and West are avg 22ppg.

and the bench rankings.... :rofl:
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Post#172 » by Hydroponic3385 » Tue May 6, 2008 7:47 pm

nightstarstolen wrote:Celtics Bench - Powe/Tony A/House/Posey >>>> Does anybody know any of the players on Clevland bench?? Boobie?


Are you even being serious? The Cavs have no star on their bench (neither do the Celtics), but they do have a very solid bench. Joe Smith and Varejao have to be up there for best big men combo off a bench. Boobie, Devin and Sasha are all solid bench guys (as long as Sasha comes back from his injury). Even Dwayne (scrappy, very good rebounder) and Damon (3's) could contribute something if they ever got PT not during a blowout (but they never will).
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Post#173 » by Kosar86 » Tue May 6, 2008 7:52 pm

CelticGamecock wrote:Lebron is definitely better than Pierce is or has ever been, but Pierce isn't as far off as people sometimes make it sound. When he is good he is really good.


Really, were the celtics in the 2nd round of the playoffs when they had West and Wally? (not to mention a 16 & 11 Al jefferson)

I seen to remember them having 24 and 33 wins the last 2 years, not winning conference titles.
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Post#174 » by TommyPoints » Tue May 6, 2008 7:55 pm

Kosar86 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Really, were the celtics in the 2nd round of the playoffs when they had West and Wally? (not to mention a 16 & 11 Al jefferson)

I seen to remember them having 24 and 33 wins the last 2 years, not winning conference titles.


Nope, but he did with 'toine! Lebron definitely has more of an impact than Pierce does and I said that. All I said is that Pierce is very good and can have a similar impact.
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Post#175 » by greenbeans » Tue May 6, 2008 7:58 pm

you guys will learn.
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Post#176 » by TommyPoints » Tue May 6, 2008 8:00 pm

Pierce could go down as Boston's all time leading scorer when he is done. That should tell people something about him.
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Post#177 » by C'mon Cavs » Tue May 6, 2008 8:14 pm

CelticGamecock wrote:Pierce could go down as Boston's all time leading scorer when he is done. That should tell people something about him.


LeBron could go down as the NBA all time leading scorer...that should tell you more.
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Post#178 » by prekazi » Tue May 6, 2008 8:24 pm

What are you guys arguing about? He just said Pierce is a good player-which is truth-he didn't say he's better than LeBron.

We can't expect to beat them with only LeBron. Team Defense and Rebounding will always be crucial plus offensively Big Z and our shooters MUST step up. Good luck to both teams!
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Post#179 » by TommyPoints » Tue May 6, 2008 8:26 pm

C'mon Cavs wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



LeBron could go down as the NBA all time leading scorer...that should tell you more.


No argument from me and if he does good for him. That doesn't take anything away from Paul though.
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Post#180 » by TommyPoints » Tue May 6, 2008 8:28 pm

prekazi wrote:What are you guys arguing about? He just said Pierce is a good player-which is truth-he didn't say he's better than LeBron.

We can't expect to beat them with only LeBron. Team Defense and Rebounding will always be crucial plus offensively Big Z and our shooters MUST step up. Good luck to both teams!


Yep, if they were playing a game of 1 on 1 Boston would be in trouble. Good thing we aren't! This should be a good series.
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