Manu Ginobili Is Overrated

Ballings7 · Post #161 » by **Ballings7** » Tue May 27, 2008 5:38 am

Manu is a better team player than Iverson

Mad Balla 15 · Post #162 » by **Mad Balla 15** » Tue May 27, 2008 5:39 am

dcash4 wrote:manu will never be part of the retired without a ring league, you got that right.

Just like if, and that's a big if, the NBA has any shred of credibility yet; Ginobili won't be in the hall of fame.

Mad Balla 15 · Post #163 » by **Mad Balla 15** » Tue May 27, 2008 5:41 am

Ballings7 wrote:Manu is a better team player than Iverson

I will agree to that. Iverson does have a tendency to become a little selfish at times but common, Manu's peak > Iverson's prime?

AQuintus · Post #164 » by **AQuintus** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:41 am

Mad Balla 15 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Just like if, and that's a big if, the NBA has any shred of credibility yet; Ginobili won't be in the hall of fame.

It's the Basketball Hall of Fame, not the NBA Hall of Fame. Manu has been a star and/or champion at every level of competition that he has played in. He will likely be voted in the first year that he is eligible.

Note: I'm not a Manu or a Spurs fan.

Pistol Pete Vescey · Post #165 » by **Pistol Pete Vescey** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:43 am

man, i'll take an andre miller over an AI. so will the city of philadelphia.

MagiChamps · Post #166 » by **MagiChamps** » Tue May 27, 2008 12:08 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

No, those were the right stats, about David, 6.6 rpg and 1.35 bpg. He was just a role player at that point.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2003.html

O ok I see it now. You're right I didn't realize how much garbage was on that team. I don't know if you can call David "just" a role player on that team though. The 6.6 and 1.35 doesn't sound that impressive but when you see that he only played 23.4 mpg, that is pretty solid. His per 40 minute averages were 11.3 rpg and 2.3 bpg, so his production when he was on the court wasn't slipping much but his playing time was. That means that at the end of games when the game was close the Spurs could play Robinson and Duncan together and make it virtually impossible for the other team to get into the lane or get an offensive rebound. Pretty sweet role player.

Malinhion · Post #167 » by **Malinhion** » Tue May 27, 2008 3:57 pm

AQuintus wrote:It's the Basketball Hall of Fame, not the NBA Hall of Fame. Manu has been a star and/or champion at every level of competition that he has played in. He will likely be voted in the first year that he is eligible.

Note: I'm not a Manu or a Spurs fan.

Agreed. Manu is a first ballot for the basketball hall of fame. Much in the same way that Laettner will/did make it for college and Olympic accolades, despite having a lackluster pro career. Manu's international accomplishments make him a lock for the HoF. For my money, if it was the NBA hall of fame he wouldn't be in mine.

lukeridenour · Post #168 » by **lukeridenour** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:54 pm

Mad Balla 15 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Just like if, and that's a big if, the NBA has any shred of credibility yet; Ginobili won't be in the hall of fame.

you are fooling yourself if you think manu wont be in the hall of fame.

Mad Balla 15 · Post #169 » by **Mad Balla 15** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:57 pm

lukeridenour wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

you are fooling yourself if you think manu wont be in the hall of fame.

Actually I know he will be in the HoF because as someone already said, it is the "Basketball Hall of Fame" not the NBA hall of fame. It's just my opinion though that he shouldn't be in the HoF and why I believe the NBA should have their own HoF rather than just going with the "Basketball Hall of Fame."

LakerFanMan · Post #170 » by **LakerFanMan** » Tue May 27, 2008 10:17 pm

Replace manu with AI and the spurs win just as many titles, maybe more.

Killuminati · Post #171 » by **Killuminati** » Tue May 27, 2008 10:21 pm

LakerFanMan wrote:Replace manu with AI and the spurs win just as many titles, maybe more.

Depends on the team chemistry. Not too sure a combination of parker/AI would get the ball to Tim Duncan when needed. Team chemistry would be a big ISSUE.

LakerFanMan · Post #172 » by **LakerFanMan** » Tue May 27, 2008 10:23 pm

I don't think AI and Parker would really clash much. I also think AI may have been a more efficient player and an all around better player had he played with duncan and for Pop.

667Club · Post #173 » by **667Club** » Tue May 27, 2008 10:47 pm

Yeah that's why andre miller is better than him ..

greenbeans · Post #174 » by **greenbeans** » Tue May 27, 2008 10:55 pm

667Club wrote:Yeah that's why andre miller is better than him ..

he is?

Ballings7 · Post #175 » by **Ballings7** » Tue May 27, 2008 11:36 pm

The defense, passing, and shooting wouldn't be the same with AI in place of Manu.

NetsForce · Post #176 » by **NetsForce** » Wed May 28, 2008 2:01 am

Replace Manu with AI and Greg Popovich is probably in jail for murder.

AIfan3 · Post #177 » by **AIfan3** » Wed May 28, 2008 2:19 am

This isn't about who would fit better on the spurs.. This is about who's the better player.. And to say Manu is better than AI is a pretty ridiculous statement when you take everything they've done into consideration.. As i've said before, would Manu on the Sixers in the place of AI be able to lead them as far ? Anyone who seriously believes so, is in serious denial on just how good AI really is.. I'm done with this conversation

Post #178 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Wed May 28, 2008 2:39 am

Actually the denial comes because they think manu can carry a load on offense like AI can for 40+ minutes, instead of coming in for 28 minutes.

austinjw · Post #179 » by **austinjw** » Wed May 28, 2008 4:10 am

Yea, i mean this series has really proven manu can't carry a team himself. I mean he's played one good game out of the four. HIs team needed him tonight and he didn't show up at all. Really a great player.

Ern III · Post #180 » by **Ern III** » Wed May 28, 2008 4:20 am

Are the words 'overrated' and 'underrated' so massively overused by dopes that very few of the remaining people are apt to convey their definition, thereby disqualifying their participation in a poll such as this?

Yes 100% [1]
No 0% [0]

The Spurs go as Manu goes. That makes him a very good and very important player. Underrated/overrated; such malarkey.

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